njbuff Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: No but they created a response to the virus that was dismissive and slow to act that could have potentially caused more damage than there needed to be. If you think the response of denial denial denial was great then you are just working backwards from your conclusion that Trump is great and everything negative is always someone elses fault or their was nothing he could do. Spare me the fake fvcking outrage. Nothing would have stopped people in this country from getting the virus. Didn't Trump ban travel from certain parts of China at the beginning of the year. Again, put the blame where it belongs.............. CHINA. And again, spare me with your, and the other leftist pinheads on here, with your fake fvcking outrage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Just now, billsfan89 said: The man was telling everyone this was nothing to worry about for many weeks, he has one third of this country in his cult of personality and they thought the virus was just a media smear of him. He was literally tweeting out this was not big deal not that long ago. Once again you can't gaslight a health crisis. He ***** this up. Again. Wrong. He was trying to not cause a panic publicly while taking actions he was roundly mocked for taking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 ...I'm scheduled to take my kids and daughter-in-law on vacation to Aruba next Sunday....I've given them the option to cancel.....zero penalty with hotel and Delta made my tickets good until 2/28/2021.......6 reported case in the Caribbean but zero in Aruba....flying through JFK is the only caveat.....BUT, majority of NYC cases are in New Rochelle, Westchester County.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: The man was telling everyone this was nothing to worry about for many weeks, he has one third of this country in his cult of personality and they thought the virus was just a media smear of him. He was literally tweeting out this was not big deal not that long ago. Once again you can't gaslight a health crisis. He ***** this up. It's the President's job not to create panic. Keep blaming Trump, I guess that's what leftist's are good for. Did you blame Obama for the swine flu or is this just outrage for a Republican President? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 21 minutes ago, njbuff said: When all this is over, should China pay a price? According to the left, the US is the one who should pay the price because we stopped going out for Chinese food. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...I'm scheduled to take my kids and daughter-in-law on vacation to Aruba next Sunday....I've given them the option to cancel.....zero penalty with hotel and Delta made my tickets good until 2/28/2021.......6 reported case in the Caribbean but zero in Aruba....flying through JFK is the only caveat.....BUT, majority of NYC cases are in New Rochelle, Westchester County.... Complete air travel might be shut down by then so you might not have to worry about it. 1 minute ago, IDBillzFan said: According to the left, the US is the one who should pay the price because we stopped going out for Chinese food. What's the real disease right now. Coronavirus or leftism? My God these people are pizzing me off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Again. Wrong. He was trying to not cause a panic publicly while taking actions he was roundly mocked for taking. Again you can't gaslight his many denials and attempts to cover the stock market. Does this sound like someone who was really on top of it and taking it seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 minute ago, njbuff said: Complete air travel might be shut down by then so you might not have to worry about it. ...we are going to play it by ear for now.............not many other choices.....and even if I ate the air fare down the road, so be it........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, njbuff said: It's the President's job not to create panic. Keep blaming Trump, I guess that's what leftist's are good for. Did you blame Obama for the swine flu or is this just outrage for a Republican President? 250,000 + hospitalized 10,000 + dead What did the media do then? DOWNPLAYED IT. What's the difference between now and then? Just now, billsfan89 said: Again you can't gaslight his many denials and attempts to cover the stock market. Does this sound like someone who was really on top of it and taking it seriously? How is that NOT trying to tamp down panic? That sounds like he's taking it very seriously, enough to communicate with the American people not to panic (and this was several months after he took action on this matter. You're way off here because you're still plugged into the MSM. They're poison for your mind. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: 250,000 + hospitalized 10,000 + dead What did the media do then? DOWNPLAYED IT. What's the difference between now and then? Do I have to guess? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 ...THANK GOD!....what a relief..."Dr Joe In The Know"........we can assuredly leave for Aruba next week............. Biden lays out coronavirus plan, takes aim at Trump for 'severe shortcomings' By Paul Steinhauser | Fox News Former Vice President Joe Biden on Thursday unveiled a plan to combat and overcome the coronavirus. Biden – the clear front-runner in the Democratic presidential nomination race over Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont – also criticized President Trump's efforts to date to curb the spread of the virus, or COVID-19, in the United States. “Downplaying it, being overly dismissive, or spreading misinformation is only going to hurt us and further advantage the spread of the disease. But neither should we panic or fall back on xenophobia,” Biden said in a speech from his hometown of Wilmington, Del. “Labeling COVID-19 a foreign virus does not displace accountability for the misjudgments that have been taken thus far by the Trump administration,” Biden said as he took aim at the president for calling the pandemic a “foreign virus” in an Oval Office address Wednesday night that’s been criticized for a number of misstatements. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-lays-out-coronavirus-plan-takes-aim-at-trump-for-severe-shortcomings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...THANK GOD!....what a relief..."Dr Joe In The Know"........we can assuredly leave for Aruba next week............. Biden lays out coronavirus plan, takes aim at Trump for 'severe shortcomings' By Paul Steinhauser | Fox News Former Vice President Joe Biden on Thursday unveiled a plan to combat and overcome the coronavirus. Biden – the clear front-runner in the Democratic presidential nomination race over Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont – also criticized President Trump's efforts to date to curb the spread of the virus, or COVID-19, in the United States. “Downplaying it, being overly dismissive, or spreading misinformation is only going to hurt us and further advantage the spread of the disease. But neither should we panic or fall back on xenophobia,” Biden said in a speech from his hometown of Wilmington, Del. “Labeling COVID-19 a foreign virus does not displace accountability for the misjudgments that have been taken thus far by the Trump administration,” Biden said as he took aim at the president for calling the pandemic a “foreign virus” in an Oval Office address Wednesday night that’s been criticized for a number of misstatements. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-lays-out-coronavirus-plan-takes-aim-at-trump-for-severe-shortcomings Biden's plan is what Trump is already doing. That's the funniest part. (Minus the whole "xenophobia" schtick which the left can't resist) Once a plagiarizer, always a plagiarizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: Again you can't gaslight his many denials and attempts to cover the stock market. Does this sound like someone who was really on top of it and taking it seriously? Perspective. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Biden's plan is what Trump is already doing. That's the funniest part. (Minus the whole "xenophobia" schtick which the left can't resist) Once a plagiarizer, always a plagiarizer. People can't just come together and figure this thing out. It must be an election year................ or Coronavirus is really a severe case of TDS. 5 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...we are going to play it by ear for now.............not many other choices.....and even if I ate the air fare down the road, so be it........... Common sense would tell you that if they shut down air travel, you ain't eatin the money. But what the fvck do I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: 250,000 + hospitalized 10,000 + dead What did the media do then? DOWNPLAYED IT. What's the difference between now and then? How is that NOT trying to tamp down panic? That sounds like he's taking it very seriously, enough to communicate with the American people not to panic (and this was several months after he took action on this matter. You're way off here because you're still plugged into the MSM. They're poison for your mind. There is a major difference between trying to give people accurate information and being in a state of complete denial. Trump was literally lambasting the media as blowing up a non-issue just several days ago. But now you want me to believe that Trump is super serious about this? Get the ***** out of here. You say that everyone has Trump derangement syndrome or just listens to the mainstream media. I don't have cable, don't watch cable or mainstream news, and I mostly get my news from the AP. I follow Trump on Twitter he was downplaying this for weeks. You can suck off Trump all you want all the time but a straight reading of his Twitter feed by anyone would show you a man with both too much time on his hands and in a serious state of denial. Also the Swine Flu was not as easily transmitted because it had a much shorter incubation period. It's not the same, quit trying to defend everything the guy from the Apprentice does. Edited March 12, 2020 by billsfan89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Biden's plan is what Trump is already doing. That's the funniest part. (Minus the whole "xenophobia" schtick which the left can't resist) Once a plagiarizer, always a plagiarizer. SMH....wonder if he even knows who wrote HIS Plan???..........quarantine this relic on Kerry's swiftboat for safe keeping....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hedge said: Perspective. speaking of perspective... https://twitter.com/DVATW/status/1238073137813749762 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, njbuff said: People can't just come together and figure this thing out. It must be an election year................ or Coronavirus is really a severe case of TDS. Common sense would tell you that if they shut down air travel, you ain't eatin the money. But what the fvck do I know. ...only caveat bud for me is having to use them by 2/28/2021.....our year end (I'm a CFO) is 12/31 and I have a ton of stuff to prepare for our accountants' year end audit during the third week in February.....we went last year on 3/03 which was a schedule crusher for me...so I pushed it out to 3/22 this year............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Just now, billsfan89 said: There is a major difference between trying to give people accurate information and being in a state of complete denial. Trump was literally lambasting the media as blowing up a non-issue just several days ago. That's NOT what he was arguing re the media or the DNC. You're back to the "it's a hoax" hoax, which never happened. Trump is imprecise in his language, that's a MAJOR flaw. But if you listen to full context, his meaning is always clear. The soundbytes don't give that, because that's not the goal of a soundbyte. The goal since 2017 has been to get rid of Trump by any means necessary. Weaponizing story after story after story. They've done it with this story which anyone who is honest can see. 2 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: But now you want me to believe that Trump is super serious about this? I don't want you to believe me, you can see the evidence for yourself. He acted in January, and has had a competent team leading it for weeks now. 3 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: . You say that everyone has Trump derangement syndrome or just listens to the mainstream media. I don't have cable, don't watch cable or mainstream news, and I mostly get my news from the AP. If you don't think the AP is part of the issue, then you haven't been paying attention to anything the past four years. AP is as establishment as it gets. 3 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: I follow Trump on Twitter he was downplaying this for weeks. He's tamping down panic. What good is panic in this situation. It's all about perspective. You WANT to read Trump's tweets that way, because you're emotional not rational. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...only caveat bud for me is having to use them by 2/28/2021.....our year end (I'm a CFO) is 12/31 and I have a ton of stuff to prepare for our accountants' year end audit during the third week in February.....we went last year on 3/03 which was a schedule crusher for me...so I pushed it out to 3/22 this year............. You'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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