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Just now, TJC25 said:

No that means ball comes out quick and needs to be out quick or its a sack. And we are running 15 to 20 yard routes  

 

I agree and some of that has to be designed but some of that can't come from the box. It has to come from the guys on the field diagnosing the defense and adjusting on the fly. 

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35 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Around here, Daboll bashing is code for "Allen had another bad game."

 

He was HORRIBLE today.

 

 

 

So was the entire offense bud.  I get you have an agenda but the entire O played poorly save for a drive or two.  Dropped passes, bad passes, bad play calling...it was a total O failure...not just your whipping boy.

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Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

I agree and some of that has to be designed but some of that can't come from the box. It has to come from the guys on the field diagnosing the defense and adjusting on the fly. 

Think of this if me you and everyone sees that why doesnt daboll why is beasly running go routes down the sideline 

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Just now, Johnnycage46 said:

So was the entire offense bud.  I get you have an agenda but the entire O played poorly save for a drive or two.  Dropped passes, bad passes, bad play calling...it was a total O failure...not just your whipping boy.

Dude is a crusader. Ignore him. He is HORRIBLE every day.

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Just now, TJC25 said:

Think of this if me you and everyone sees that why doesnt daboll why is beasly running go routes down the sideline 

 

I have to believe there is a role for Duke Williams in this WR group.   They can't all be smurfs...

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2 minutes ago, TJC25 said:

Think of this if me you and everyone sees that why doesnt daboll why is beasly running go routes down the sideline 

 

And I agree. Daboll didn't make enough scheme adjustments. But it still comes down to the QB and center diagnosing and finding the open guy. The playcaller has less chance of knowing who is going to blitz at the point he calls the play than the QB and center have once they have seen the defense lineup. There is blame on all fronts on offense today. 

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Thread title tells the tale of today. Everything else is just mental *****.

 

Master.      

 

Bation.

Edited by BillsFanNC

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1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

And I agree. Daboll didn't make enough scheme adjustments. But it still comes down to the QB and center diagnosing and finding the open guy. The playcaller has less chance of knowing who is going to blitz at the point he calls the play than the QB and center have once they have seen the defense lineup. There is blame on all fronts on offense today. 

If your the o.c and you know they blitz 7 are you gonna call a empty set? Especially when your running 15 to 20 yard pass plays 

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47 minutes ago, stevestojan said:


I “got” not filing up this board with threads by making a new topic that says what everyone knows. 

I mean...it's a hosted server.  I'm sure there is room. 

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4 minutes ago, london_bills said:

Allen wasn't good enough to make others around him better today. 

Josh wasn't put in a position to be good today

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3 minutes ago, london_bills said:

Allen wasn't good enough to make others around him better today. 

 

He wasnt. Except when he was good enough and those around him let him down. It's on all of them.

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3 minutes ago, CoudyBills said:

I mean...it's a hosted server.  I'm sure there is room. 

Yep....enough room for every random thought.  Just because one can doesn't mean one should. 

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Our offense is an enigma. I don’t know stats, but by the eye test they seem like one of the bottom 10 offenses in the league 

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8 minutes ago, TJC25 said:

If your the o.c and you know they blitz 7 are you gonna call a empty set? Especially when your running 15 to 20 yard pass plays 

 

Sometimes yes I am - because that means I am going to have uncovered guys. I want to take advantage of it. Now you want some shorter routes, for sure.... but there were some called. I don't just want to keep extra guys in every play because that limits my ability to move the ball and gives the D what they want. You have to play cat and mouse. Daboll had to do a better job, no doubt, but the guys on the field had to too. Dealing with the blitz is always on the center and QB as well as the playcaller. 

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7 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

He wasnt. Except when he was good enough and those around him let him down. It's on all of them.

Yes there were some plays that I agree with on that. 

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I thought Daboll had a really bad day. Him moving to the booth and reading the defense pre-snap for Allen was a big reason for the offensive turnaround IMO. Today we didn't have the proper protections when they blitzed and the times we did max protect or when Josh changed the play (likely due to whatever Daboll was seeing) we played right into their defensive scheme.

 

This doesn't excuse the awful performances from our QB and receivers, but it was a rough outing for our OC.

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Alot of this highlights what an issue the deep ball is. I think people are dissapointed with theae continual deep misses. 

 

Obviously Allen is you can see it in his face.

 

Because we can't hit that deep pass more pressure is being put on the offence. 

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They’ll learn from it.  Hats off to the Ravens D, they brought the heat from all sorts of angles and the protection wasn’t there and when it was Allen missed a few deep passes and the receivers made a few costly drops.

 

Onto the Steelers and their defense will be equally as good.

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1 hour ago, Lurker said:

Dabol did not earn his paycheck this week...

Daboll didn't drop any passes or whiff on dozens of blocks today. 

The O line was mostly terrible, and when they were good enough, Josh panicked anyway and made bad decisions with his feet. How many times did he take off out of the pocket when he had time to step up and throw? Josh also made lots of bad throws downfield, and when he was on target, guys dropped passes. The run blocking was bad, too.

 

The offense laid an egg today, and it was 90% execution. Daboll gets a pass on this one, from what I could see. 

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34 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Morse is there to help (and centers around the league help). And if he isn't doing it then he isn't earning his contract because purely his physical play has been no better than average. 

Center doesn't see late shifts by the defense. QBs always have protection calls.

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4 minutes ago, skibum said:

Daboll didn't drop any passes or whiff on dozens of blocks today. 

No but he was listening to WGR in the booth apparently. 

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On 12/8/2019 at 3:36 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

They were blitzing. It's on the QB. QB makes the line calls and sets protections. Allen was not seeing the blitz at all.

 

He was calling them out and everyone saw it. The line didn’t block.

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1 hour ago, Rbleyle said:

Allen’s not good at his deep ball accuracy so why are we drawing up plays the put the spotlight on his weaknesses?

An NFL qb with literally the strongest arm ever - and a guy the bills drafted to deal with the wind - should be expected to occasionally connect. He has to keep trying even if this year is a lost cause. They basically drafted the next big ben, but ben is an accurate deep thrower. He has gotten more accurate on other throws, so it’s wise to push and push him.

 

Crazy opinion: Orton was the Bills’ most accurate deep thrower since Kelly 2/3 of the way through the 1992 season (he ruptuted his bursar sac then and was never the same).

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