OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) ….your morning dose of Cali-FECES from Broom Hilda....SMH...……….. Pelosi argues Trump 'cannot be acquitted,' suggests defense team should be disbarred By Dom Calicchio | Fox News In scathing comments Thursday as her party appeared on the verge of defeat in the Senate impeachment trial, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi argued that President Trump "cannot be acquitted" if the trial lacks the witness testimony and documentation that Democrats have been seeking. The San Francisco Democrat also fired on Trump's impeachment defense team, saying they've "disgraced themselves" during this week's trial and suggesting they deserve disbarment over their trial remarks. The comments came hours before Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., said he would not back efforts by Democrats to have witnesses testify at the Senate trial – all but sealing an acquittal for Trump. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trumps-defense-team-disgraced-themselves-deserve-disbarment-pelosi-suggests Edited January 31, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 15 hours ago, Bob in Mich said: The truth is TYTT's take doesn't mean anything either way. Just looking to exchange thoughts. I read posts here often and am tempted to weigh in but usually conclude, why bother? I have some injury/health issues. I search for a distraction at times. Posting gives a decent distraction, lol, as I am a popular punching bag. I value opinions and the learning but mostly I am trying to get through a bad stretch. As an aside, If TYTT gave an answer I didn't like I wouldn't harass the hell out of him for years. Actually a very level headed and fair comments. You do take a lot of abuse here, i dont know your "history" here so i have no idea if in fact it is "deserved" or not. I try not to get emotinal either way. I am not a great Trump fan, some of what he does, his comments, are just crazy but his policies have been spot on and the economy is doing great. 2 1
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Honest question, do you think Trump University was a scam business? I mean once a corrupt person, always a corrupt person. Trump University is a worse scam than anything Hunter Biden did. BIG BIG differnce my friend. Yea Trump University was proabaly a borderline "scam" but that was a a privater citizen, the peolpe that got those diplomas got a "degree" from a cheap univeristy for having done very little, they got what they paid for, a cheap diploma for a fly by night university. And it was all in the private sector. You want to call it a scam, yeah fine by me. Are all the universities that you can get degress on line "scams", eh depends how you look at them. What Biden did was abuse his office for personal game, he violated the public trust, it was the ultimate in a corrupt act. 2
B-Man Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 What a great day ! Two losses for transatlantic twits: Brexit finally happens, impeachment collapses by Sohrab Ahmari Original Article How much punishment must liberal elites on both sides of the Atlantic endure before they learn not to try to undo the will of voters? That such trickery only invites fiercer and more decisive popular backlashes? This week, elites on both sides of the Atlantic had their knuckles rapped on exactly these points — yet again. The United Kingdom finalized its divorce, once and for all, from the European Union — despite three years of underhanded efforts from “Remoaners” determined to keep the marriage going. Acquittal AND Brexit.................... My cup runneth over 2
Bob in Mich Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Actually a very level headed and fair comments. You do take a lot of abuse here, i dont know your "history" here so i have no idea if in fact it is "deserved" or not. I try not to get emotinal either way. I am not a great Trump fan, some of what he does, his comments, are just crazy but his policies have been spot on and the economy is doing great. Thanks. I appreciate the comments and civility. lol, I generate new hate each day but primarily, most here came to dislike me from the 'Know Anyone With a Disease' PPP thread that I began in 2014. It is a medical marijuana thread. Back then I lived in Michigan that had approved it years earlier than NY state. I tried to be educational but battling through all the ignorance, snark, and drug pusher allegations, things often devolved into insult exchanges. This thread: https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/169052-know-anyone-with-a-disease-read-this/ Edited January 31, 2020 by Bob in Mich
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: BIG BIG differnce my friend. Yea Trump University was proabaly a borderline "scam" but that was a a privater citizen, the peolpe that got those diplomas got a "degree" from a cheap univeristy for having done very little, they got what they paid for, a cheap diploma for a fly by night university. And it was all in the private sector. You want to call it a scam, yeah fine by me. Are all the universities that you can get degress on line "scams", eh depends how you look at them. What Biden did was abuse his office for personal game, he violated the public trust, it was the ultimate in a corrupt act. So Trump has changed to an honest person? Doubt that. 1
B-Man Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 Well...........if Mollie says so ? MOLLIE HEMINGWAY: Top 8 Reasons Trump Already Won Impeachment. . 2 1
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: So Trump has changed to an honest person? Doubt that. So you asked a question, i answered and you ignored what i said. Strange no mention of Biden from what i said. And i never said or intimated because ofTrump University, Trump wasnt honest, as i said it was a fly by night university for fly by night degrees, runnijng that doesnt mean he is "dishoinest". You really dont want to debate, you want to preach and proselytize 2
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: So you asked a question, i answered and you ignored what i said. Strange no mention of Biden from what i said. And i never said or intimated because ofTrump University, Trump wasnt honest, as i said it was a fly by night university for fly by night degrees, runnijng that doesnt mean he is "dishoinest". You really dont want to debate, you want to preach and proselytize You are more right than wrong 1
Bob in Mich Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 14 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: So you asked a question, i answered and you ignored what i said. Strange no mention of Biden from what i said. And i never said or intimated because ofTrump University, Trump wasnt honest, as i said it was a fly by night university for fly by night degrees, runnijng that doesnt mean he is "dishoinest". You really dont want to debate, you want to preach and proselytize A bit more information on how scammy? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/federal-court-approves-25-million-trump-university-settlement-n845181 1
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: A bit more information on how scammy? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/federal-court-approves-25-million-trump-university-settlement-n845181 Sorry but that means nothihng to me, any fool that would enroll in Trump University had to have known what they were getting into. As far as settling, that means nothing to me as well, he was running for president and $25 million for it to go away was worth every penny to him, settling doesnt imply guilt at all, business decsion. 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 34 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: With all due respect, were drinking even more than me? Motivations are not material? The truth is too vague? Sorry, that seems plain silly to me. The primary reason we can't get to the bottom of the motive question is due to the WH blocking. That should enter into your thinking, imo Honestly, do you really think if Trump had all sorts of emails and texts and witnesses that could easily exonerate him, that he would really hold them back from Congress to protect future Presidents? When has he done something like that before, as opposed to what is best for Donnie ? I used a football analogy before. If there is strong suspicion that one team is paying off the officials, does it make sense to ignore that possibility, not investigate, and say, let it be decided on the field? I think, Robby, it's hard for folks to grasp where you're coming from at times. I mean, I know where you're coming from, I just don't know why you would ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever think that in such a highly partisan "investigation" that any supporter of the president would push for more/extended hearings on this. See, in my opinion, it makes the most sense to avail oneself of every legal and rational argument or procedural opportunity to close this out with the knowledge that your adversary failed. I know you know the dems would follow that process, and we can both agree they already did in setting up the impeachment case to begin with. If the evidence they had was strong enough to carry the day legally, after the house had completed it's dirty work, there would be little reason not to move forward. Again, they didn't even carry their own partisan party on this issue. How the heck does that happen if they have the Trumpsta dead to rights? I get the "what were his motivations" angle, and "why can't we just talk more, where's the harm in that if you're innocent?" approach. That's a law enforcement/big government tactic used all the time. Let's acknowledge that as 'fishing', but let's also agree that has absolutely nothing--zero, nada, zilch--to do with what is in the best interest of the subject of the investigation. If the WH "blocking" witnesses is illegal, the dems should have at it. If not, just like Schiff, Biden or Biden Jr aren't out begging to testify voluntarily to help us all understand this polarizing events of days past, the R's should rightly tell the enemy to suck a nut. I do agree though, DJT is the first President/politician who did not go to the Mother Theresa Slums of Mumbai Selflessness Training Academy. I think as citizens were should all be grateful that prior to #45, we had 44 presidents (44.5 if you include Popular Vote Queen and Haffa-Prez Hillary C) who sacrificed everything for the good of all people everywhere. May God Bless them, may God Bless them all. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 16 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Sorry but that means nothihng to me, any fool that would enroll in Trump University had to have known what they were getting into. As far as settling, that means nothing to me as well, he was running for president and $25 million for it to go away was worth every penny to him, settling doesnt imply guilt at all, business decsion. Isn't it funny how they cling to stories from 2015 as if they hold merit/weight with the voting blocks they need to appeal to? One would think a wiser strategy for the past three-four years would have been to embrace the independents and centrists, to learn why they voted Trump and try to create a platform that's inclusive. But instead of doing that, the DNC charged hard left and called those very same people they need "Putin lovers" or worse for simply raising doubts about the (now proven false) Trump/Russia narrative. All they had to do to win is NOT be crazy. But they just couldn't do it. 1
Foxx Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) i see it being said that the Dems do not currently have enough votes to have the Senate call witnesses. as a result, they apparently have hatched a plan that will try to swing the vote in their favor. Schumer is not tipping his hand as to what that is yet though. i guess we will have to wait till later today and see what the latest ploy from the desperate Donners is. Edited January 31, 2020 by Foxx 1 2
Deranged Rhino Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I think, Robby, it's hard for folks to grasp where you're coming from at times. I mean, I know where you're coming from, I just don't know why you would ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever think that in such a highly partisan "investigation" that any supporter of the president would push for more/extended hearings on this. See, in my opinion, it makes the most sense to avail oneself of every legal and rational argument or procedural opportunity to close this out with the knowledge that your adversary failed. I know you know the dems would follow that process, and we can both agree they already did in setting up the impeachment case to begin with. If the evidence they had was strong enough to carry the day legally, after the house had completed it's dirty work, there would be little reason not to move forward. Again, they didn't even carry their own partisan party on this issue. How the heck does that happen if they have the Trumpsta dead to rights? I get the "what were his motivations" angle, and "why can't we just talk more, where's the harm in that if you're innocent?" approach. That's a law enforcement/big government tactic used all the time. Let's acknowledge that as 'fishing', but let's also agree that has absolutely nothing--zero, nada, zilch--to do with what is in the best interest of the subject of the investigation. If the WH "blocking" witnesses is illegal, the dems should have at it. If not, just like Schiff, Biden or Biden Jr aren't out begging to testify voluntarily to help us all understand this polarizing events of days past, the R's should rightly tell the enemy to suck a nut. I do agree though, DJT is the first President/politician who did not go to the Mother Theresa Slums of Mumbai Selflessness Training Academy. I think as citizens were should all be grateful that prior to #45, we had 44 presidents (44.5 if you include Popular Vote Queen and Haffa-Prez Hillary C) who sacrificed everything for the good of all people everywhere. May God Bless them, may God Bless them all. Re the bolded: this is where Bob fails. He doesn't understand, believe, or know the full context of the past three years. If he did, he'd understand that during Mueller, Trump's administration was OVERLY transparent. Provided all the documents and witnesses Mueller requested, without delay. How did that end up for Trump? Right... Weissman and Mueller railroaded his witnesses, forged evidence, dragged on an investigation they KNEW to be bogus from the first day of the SCO's appointment. Trump watched as the "system" bankrupted good people, pressured their families and them to "flip". In the end, Trump was vindicated and cleared of the most central (and nefarious) charges. Did that stop the attacks? Nope. Did that stop the people like Bob who still believe collusion/conspiracy happened (there just wasn't enough evidence to charge). People like the Bob and Pelosi/Schiff/the media THREW OUT the bedrock principle of our legal system, innocent until proven guilty, and inverted it just because they didn't get the outcome they were promised. Rather than get mad at the people who made those promises, who lied to the people for three plus years -- Bob and others keep their ire aimed at the victim. Knowing that, experiencing all that -- why should Trump EVER willingly give over documents/witnesses to the same partisan bullshiters? But Bob doesn't want to acknowledge any of that. Because he's ignorant of basic facts and too partisan to be taken seriously. 1 1
B-Man Posted January 31, 2020 Posted January 31, 2020 I Stand with Joe Biden No More Malarkey!! End impeachment sham now! . 1 1 2
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