B-Man Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 HONG KONG MOVES FROM PROTESTS TO CIVIL UNREST AS CHINA THREATENS INTERVENTION: Freelance correspondent Michael Yon reports that one can feel the collective political and emotional change on Hong Kong’s streets — change that may have dire consequences. . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) Edited September 4, 2019 by Hedge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Hong Kong Caves to Protestors’ Original Demand: So Now What? Influence Power: How China Covertly Operates in the U.S. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 37 minutes ago, B-Man said: Looks like the left doesn't have a monopoly on idiotic opinions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 56 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: You're damn straight. Well, correct at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 7 hours ago, GG said: Looks like the left doesn't have a monopoly on idiotic opinions. Interested to see why you find that opinion idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 54 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Interested to see why you find that opinion idiotic. Do you think it's better for the Chinese princelings to stay at home and continue to be indoctrinated by Communists or be fully exposed to Western culture during their formative years as adults? What does taxpayer support of US colleges have to do with it? Foreign students pay full freight and then some. That actually helps the colleges' finances and allows for more financial aid to the needy students. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, GG said: Do you think it's better for the Chinese princelings to stay at home and continue to be indoctrinated by Communists or be fully exposed to Western culture during their formative years as adults? I kind of thought that would be your answer. Would you say their exposure to western culture has changed China at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: I kind of thought that would be your answer. Would you say their exposure to western culture has changed China at all? Do you think the exposure to western culture has changed the Chinese in Hong Kong? It's a process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Just now, 3rdnlng said: Do you think the exposure to western culture has changed the Chinese in Hong Kong? It's a process. You realize, of course, than Hong Kong lived under UK rule for a century, yes? We're educating the children of our rival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: You realize, of course, than Hong Kong lived under UK rule for a century, yes? We're educating the children of our rival. That was my point. They have been exposed to western culture and prefer it over the Chinese culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said: You realize, of course, than Hong Kong lived under UK rule for a century, yes? We're educating the children of our rival. There are plenty of North American students that study in China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 So we don't like the Chinese because of their form of government but we don't want them to experience what we consider to be a better form of government? They'll just figure out we have a better system over here on their own? And it will be easy for them when that better system won't even let them in the country to understand why it's better. Or we'll have to go in and overthrow their government and install 1 we like? Seems like you're advocating for war against China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 'Half an Olive Branch' Fails to Pacify Hong Kong Protesters... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 25 minutes ago, B-Man said: 'Half an Olive Branch' Fails to Pacify Hong Kong Protesters... . Nice to see China back down, but it really isn't nearly enough. They should be able to pick their own leaders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 LIKE A SCENE FROM A 21ST CENTURY CASABLANCA: Defiant Hong Kong Children Drown Out Chinese Anthem With Stirring ‘Les Mis’ Song. Except that Hollywood wouldn’t make a movie about this, because Hollywood is in the pocket of the Chinese government. A longer clip since removed from YouTube showed the students singing the song twice, at the start of the ceremony and as the teachers filed out at the end. The song has become an anthem for protesters in the city seeking greater democracy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) On 9/4/2019 at 7:32 PM, meazza said: There are plenty of North American students that study in China. https://www.ft.com/content/6665e98c-ece6-11e8-8180-9cf212677a57 At 360,000, there are now 30 times as many Chinese students in the US as there are US students in China And I have to wonder how many of the American students are of Chinese descent, and might be getting an indoctrination from the Communist government, as much as a regular "studying abroad" experience. I can't find much information about American students accused of spying in China (maybe it's suppressed?), but there are LOTS of cases involving Chinese students spying in the US. But then there are 30 times more Chinese students here (and they are surely granted more freedom here in the US, than American students are in China), so maybe that's why there are so many more spying incidents? I guess it's all the same then, huh Meazza? ***** off. Edited September 6, 2019 by OJ Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 9 hours ago, OJ Tom said: https://www.ft.com/content/6665e98c-ece6-11e8-8180-9cf212677a57 At 360,000, there are now 30 times as many Chinese students in the US as there are US students in China And I have to wonder how many of the American students are of Chinese descent, and might be getting an indoctrination from the Communist government, as much as a regular "studying abroad" experience. I can't find much information about American students accused of spying in China (maybe it's suppressed?), but there are LOTS of cases involving Chinese students spying in the US. But then there are 30 times more Chinese students here (and they are surely granted more freedom here in the US, than American students are in China), so maybe that's why there are so many more spying incidents? I guess it's all the same then, huh Meazza? ***** off. This warranted an empty headed “***** off”? Lay out your policy prescription. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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