Just Jack Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, Paulus said: Yeah, it is interesting how daft some Americans are regarding the truth about gun violence. I wonder how many people were murdered in The Windy City since the beginning of this month. These stats are through almost the end of July... https://www.chicagotribune.com/data/ct-shooting-victims-map-charts-htmlstory.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, Just Jack said: MS-13. And Ay-rabs. Them, too! I see lots of them. You might not see them. Buh-leeve me ... they're there. We've done a lot to address this. More than anyone knows. Buh-leeve me. More to do. But we've done a lot. Trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Just Jack said: These stats are through almost the end of July... https://www.chicagotribune.com/data/ct-shooting-victims-map-charts-htmlstory.html Thanx... Nice map. More guns in other jurisdictions is the problem... They are flooding in from some where close like Indiana that shares a border with Chicago. I can't see how letting up on guns will help. At least there was only one non-fatal in the neighborhood (Hegewisch, SE Side) where I work... Pretty calm and none within miles. Even the projects are quiet by my work. The real problem is west of city. This all must be gang related. Guns must be pouring in from somewhere close. Chicago is a rail hub... Why are they shipping arms through Chicago where they get stolen? https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-chicago-railroad-thefts-20170303-story.html Edited August 7, 2019 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 A dude walking into a food festival and greasing 20 people is different than some drug dealers/gangsters killling eachother in Chicago. Just sayin.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: A dude walking into a food festival and greasing 20 people is different than some drug dealers/gangsters killling eachother in Chicago. Just sayin.... I just looked at my neighborhood where I work. One non-fatal... None within miles. Pretty calm down there. I have said... This spills onto The Mag Mile, Michigan Avenue.. things will change in this country fast... Just like with the gangsters & mob 90 years ago! People don't follow laws either. They run red lights... Think a gun law will stop them from driving 5 miles and crossing into Indiana to get guns and fireworks. On Sunday, get booze, hard liquor at gas station in Illinois. One state helps the other! Edited August 7, 2019 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) There was a bigger border between the food festival and outside than Chicago and the Suburbs and State of Indiana. Indiana is one of the most conservative, pro-guns and Chicago anti-gun. Who do you think will win the arms race. Create a buffer zone between country and city... Get rid of guns in city... And maybe more will slow to come in. Firearms is just like immigration. You can't stop it, just redirect the flow. Don't need borders... Just need four states to enact same gun laws. Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, & Michigan. A 200 mile separation from the lax Red states keeps the flow down. And stop transportation of arms through Chicago. Like my link above... They aren't reporting the thefts. Edited August 7, 2019 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) This is why it took off, a string of big crimes: Railroad thefts and guns. Railcars are positioned in Hammond, Ind., to cross over the Calumet River into Chicago. "The 2015 heist of over 100 guns, preceded by one in 2014, and another last September from a Chicago rail yard highlight a tragic confluence. When street-gang thieves slipped with ease into a Norfolk Southern rail yard on Chicago's South Side and ripped locks off one train, they likely expected to see merchandise like toys or tennis shoes. What they beheld instead was a gangster's jackpot: box after box of brand new guns. The guns had been en route from New Hampshire weapon maker Sturm, Ruger & Co. to Spokane, Washington. Instead, the .45-caliber Ruger revolvers and other firearms spread quickly into surrounding high-crime neighborhoods. Along with two other major gun thefts within three years, the robbery helped fuel a wave of violence on Chicago's streets." Edited August 7, 2019 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Gugny said: Joe, this is a website that encourages and glorifies hatred and violence. Why on earth would you not want something like that shut down? The only benefit to keeping it going is for the FBI to make a list of people to watch ... and prevent from purchasing/owning any weapons. Explain. You know what I'd rather see shut down than 8chan? CNN, the NYT and WaPo. Why? They routinely pawn off lies as truth and do so to a mass audience that's orders of magnitude larger than a site of 8chan's stature. And believe me, I've been of that opinion for 20 years. Pretty soon places like 8chan will be the only refuge for anyone who dares to disagree with the left and their cultural commissars. Lord knows mainstream social media doesn't allow it. 4 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: A dude walking into a food festival and greasing 20 people is different than some drug dealers/gangsters killling eachother in Chicago. Just sayin.... How's that? You realize that many Innocents die in those shootings yes? Edited August 7, 2019 by Joe in Winslow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 6 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: A dude walking into a food festival and greasing 20 people is different than some drug dealers/gangsters killling eachother in Chicago. Just sayin.... And what about the collateral damage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 6 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: A dude walking into a food festival and greasing 20 people is different than some drug dealers/gangsters killling eachother in Chicago. Just sayin.... 2 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: How's that? You realize that many Innocents die in those shootings yes? 6 minutes ago, /dev/null said: And what about the collateral damage? The end result is the same: murder. However, they are completely different crimes in regard to offender type and motivation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: The end result is the same: murder. However, they are completely different crimes in regard to offender type and motivation. Could it be because in one instance the shooter is white, and the other not? If so I couldn't agree more. One brand of mass murder doesn't feed the "crazy white supremacist" media motif. The other does (even when it doesn't). Edited August 7, 2019 by Joe in Winslow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Could it be because in one instance the shooter is white, and the other not? If so I couldn't agree more. One brand of mass murder doesn't feed the "crazy white supremacist" media motif. The other does (even when it doesn't). I was speaking strictly from a perspective of psychology and criminal behavior. From a political perspective, they are each portrayed in whatever way is most useful for political advantage - regardless of reality. Edited August 7, 2019 by billsfan1959 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 7 hours ago, Just Jack said: Good to know. I’ll stop hiding from “white nationalists” now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 7 hours ago, Just Jack said: How many posted a manifesto prior??? 6 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Good to know. I’ll stop hiding from “white nationalists” now Still wearing blinders I see. the “white nationalists” is only part of the overall problem. This guy got Don's message loud and clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LB3 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Venezuela, yes Venezuela, is warning its citizens about the dangers of America. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 1 minute ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said: Venezuela, yes Venezuela, is warning its citizens about the dangers of America. Just another Crack Pot leader of a shite hole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 On 8/5/2019 at 10:49 PM, Gugny said: Over 80% of mass shootings in the U.S. have been carried out by white U.S. citizens with legally obtained firearms. You are right, Gugny, in that most mass shootings (in the truest definition) are comitted by white males with legally obtained firearms. It is also true that those murders comprise a fraction of the (on average) 13,000 - 15,000 murders in this country each year. It is also true that the majority of the overall murders in this country are comitted by non-white males and, in those murders where firearms are used, most are not obtained legally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 17 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: How many posted a manifesto prior??? Still wearing blinders I see. the “white nationalists” is only part of the overall problem. This guy got Don's message loud and clear Ooooh a fake pipe bomber ????♂️??♂️??♂️??♂️??♂️??♂️??♂️??♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) https://www.marketwatch.com/story/check-out-this-chart-before-blaming-videogames-for-gun-violence-in-america-2019-08-06?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo 2 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Ooooh a fake pipe bomber ????♂️??♂️??♂️??♂️??♂️??♂️??♂️??♂️ I see you still miss the point. (I wasn't actually surprised. I know these thinks are hard for you to understand and accept) Edited August 7, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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