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McDermott and the Golden State Warriors

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McDermott probably doesn't stay up late enough or spend enough time on recreation to have watched the Warriors beat the Raptors last night, but I'm sure this morning he'd like to package some highlights from the game to use as a teaching point with his team.  The Warriors displayed last night the character that McDermott wants his football team to have.  

 

It was remarkable.  TWO guys - Durant and Looney - played with serious injuries that under any other circumstances would have kept them off the floor.  But this was an elimination game, and they were not going to let their team be eliminated without contributing whatever they could   So they played until they completely broke down.   All that mattered to them was that their team win, and they were going to do everything they possibly could to contribute to the win.  Think of the message that sends to their teammates.
 
The team fought and competed all the way into the fourth quarter.  The commentators said at half-time that the Warriors may have been leading, but they were in serious trouble.  It looked that way all the way through the third quarter.  Then in the fourth quarter the Raptors finally took control of the game and brought all of Canada to their feet in anticipation of the championship.  And still the Warriors wouldn't quit.  Thompson and Curry and Green and Iguadala just wouldn't quit, and Cousins showed he has it in him too.  Yes, those guys have talent, but Iguadala just cannot score any more, and Green can't carry them, and Cousins is kind of clumsy, and without more offense around them Curry and Thompson draw too much defensive attention.  None of that mattered.   Three minutes to go, game on the line, they refused to lose.  
 
It was an inspiring display of determination and of commitment to the team and team goals.   
 
It's what McDermott says he wants, and it's what we can see him building. It's why guys like Alexander and Beasley and McCoy and Gore and Hughes and Lotulelei and Murphy are on the team, and it's what he expects from Hyde and Poyer and Edmunds and Oliver and Morse and Ford and Allen.   Time will tell whether McDermott can do it.
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7 minutes ago, Toronto Bills Fan said:

Raps in 6...Go Bills!

I think there's no way the Warriors win the series, but last night Curry and Thompson and Iguadala and Green and Durant and Looney and Cousins marked themselves forever as champions.  They were in the theirs graves and Leonard was dropping the last shovels full of dirt on them, and they rose up and said "not yet."   We're going to see Bills teams do that, because McDermott is training them to do it.  

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Having a 2 time MVP; one of the best shooters ever, 2 other all stars, and a great role player also help. 😉

 

im sick of GS but I do respect the heart they showed.  But they are still insanely talented and you need big time talent to win.

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1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

Was there a lot of clapping?

Cute.   

 

I didn't mention Kerr, but he's a lot like McDermott, without the clapping.   He's the one who created the winning attitude those guys have.  And whether Kerr uses the phrase, he's about the process.  They have a way to win, and it's built on commitment to the style of play Kerr's taught them.   They buy in and they do their jobs. 

 

 

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Just now, Shaw66 said:

Cute.   

 

I didn't mention Kerr, but he's a lot like McDermott, without the clapping.   He's the one who created the winning attitude those guys have.  And whether Kerr uses the phrase, he's about the process.  They have a way to win, and it's built on commitment to the style of play Kerr's taught them.   They buy in and they do their jobs. 

 

Sounds like a character flaw.

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1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Having a 2 time MVP; one of the best shooters ever, 2 other all stars, and a great role player also help. 😉

 

im sick of GS but I do respect the heart they showed.  But they are still insanely talented and you need big time talent to win.

No question.   You don't have Curry and Thompson drilling 3s, you don't win that game.  

 

But if ever there was time and a place for players to just pack it up and go on vacation, that was it.   They've won plenty of titles, Durant and Looney and Iguadala and Thompson are injured and limited, they're down 3-1, playing against a good team that is defending them mercilessly, on the road before a vocal crowd with a whole country behind them - just give up, congratulate the winners and be proud of all you've accomplished.   That's not who they are.  They are Don Beebe chasing down Leon Lett, they were the Bills down 35-3 to the Oilers after having gone to three straight Super Bowls.  

 

It was what every fan wants his team to be - full of a heart (and a few Hall of Fame players!).

7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Sounds like a character flaw.

LOL!  

 

I don't know why everyone is so fixated on the clapping.  McDermott isn't as bad as Pete Carroll, and I'm sure the folks in Seattle are perfectly with the Lombardi he brought them.  

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1 minute ago, Shaw66 said:

No question.   You don't have Curry and Thompson drilling 3s, you don't win that game.  

 

But if ever there was time and a place for players to just pack it up and go on vacation, that was it.   They've won plenty of titles, Durant and Looney and Iguadala and Thompson are injured and limited, they're down 3-1, playing against a good team that is defending them mercilessly, on the road before a vocal crowd with a whole country behind them - just give up, congratulate the winners and be proud of all you've accomplished.   That's not who they are.  They are Don Beebe chasing down Leon Lett, they were the Bills down 35-3 to the Oilers after having gone to three straight Super Bowls.  

 

It was what every fan wants his team to be - full of a heart (and a few Hall of Fame players!).

I definitely respect the point you’re trying to make but GS is just another level talent wise.  Another team could have shown heart like them but they just don’t have the talent.

 

imo, the whole character thing gets so overblown.  Look at the Jauron era rosters.  The fact they won 7 games was a miracle.  They had character and heart but they lacked talent.  Of all my issues with the Bills, I don’t really ever question their heart and character.  They just need more elite talent.

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10 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Cute.   

 

I didn't mention Kerr, but he's a lot like McDermott, without the clapping.   He's the one who created the winning attitude those guys have.  And whether Kerr uses the phrase, he's about the process.  They have a way to win, and it's built on commitment to the style of play Kerr's taught them.   They buy in and they do their jobs. 

 

 

 

 

There is no comparison between Kerr and McDermott.    Or any NBA coach and McDermott for that matter.   The players run the show in the NBA.

 

But at the base level as coaches......Kerr was clutch, big game player in the NBA with a bunch of rings who brought a lot of instant respect and credibility along with a laid back style that suited a team with a lot of prime aged star players.

 

 McDermott never played in the NFL and has never won anything and immediately had to clear the deck of prime-aged star players because he didn't think he could earn their respect and buy-in.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

 

I don't know why everyone is so fixated on the clapping.  McDermott isn't as bad as Pete Carroll, and I'm sure the folks in Seattle are perfectly with the Lombardi he brought them.  

 

If Pete had clapped a bit louder maybe it would have drowned out Bevell saying "err maybe we should throw it here?" And they'd have two Lombardis? 

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I am not a Warriors fan at all. I kind of hate them. With that being said, their guts cannot be questioned. That performance last night with their backs against the wall was special.

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2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I am not a Warriors fan at all. I kind of hate them. With that being said, their guts cannot be questioned. That performance last night with their backs against the wall was special.

Also karma caught up to Toronto for cheering KD’s injury. 

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26 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

There is no comparison between Kerr and McDermott.    Or any NBA coach and McDermott for that matter.   The players run the show in the NBA.

 

But at the base level as coaches......Kerr was clutch, big game player in the NBA with a bunch of rings who brought a lot of instant respect and credibility along with a laid back style that suited a team with a lot of prime aged star players.

 

 McDermott never played in the NFL and has never won anything and immediately had to clear the deck of prime-aged star players because he didn't think he could earn their respect and buy-in.

 

 

I was hoping someone would say this, it came up a few days ago. The NBA is a horrible example.

 

Coaches don’t matter nearly as much as the NFL. The Warriors tried hard instead of going home, the Bruins did the same thing two days ago. I don’t think it was anything beyond both teams giving a professional level of effort. 

 

This is their jobs. Saying the Bills won’t quit isn’t really paying them a compliment.

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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

Was there a lot of clapping?

Yeah! as a matter of fact, if you watch Kerr on the sidelines he is a hell-of-a-clapper!!  :)

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If a championship was on the line, It would be a good motivational tool. But under normal circumstances, for a regular season game, I would prefer my players to not tear an ACL, due to not waiting till you were actually healed enough to play.

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1 hour ago, CommonCents said:

Coaches don’t matter nearly as much as the NFL.

Better send a memo to McDermott on this.  He went to Penn State this winter to observe the WRESTLING coaching.  I coaching doesn't matter in the NBA, it REALLY doesn't matter in wrestling, where teamwork is totally irrelevant.  

 

And I'd suggest you ask Curry, Thomson, Iguodala and Green whether they think coaching matters.  They couldn't get beyond the first round of the playoffs with Mark Jackson in 2014 and they blew away the league in 2015 with Steve Kerr.  

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1 hour ago, Shaw66 said:

Better send a memo to McDermott on this.  He went to Penn State this winter to observe the WRESTLING coaching.  I coaching doesn't matter in the NBA, it REALLY doesn't matter in wrestling, where teamwork is totally irrelevant.  

 

And I'd suggest you ask Curry, Thomson, Iguodala and Green whether they think coaching matters.  They couldn't get beyond the first round of the playoffs with Mark Jackson in 2014 and they blew away the league in 2015 with Steve Kerr.  

Only if you ask them how they lost to Lebron James and Matthew Delladova. If they answer it was because of TY LUE then I will eat my shoe.

 

Thats window dressing, observing a wrestling coach etc. He is in the same division as the greatest coach in the history of the game. The example to follow has been slapping the Bills and their fans in the face for the better part of two decades. 

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3 hours ago, CommonCents said:

I was hoping someone would say this, it came up a few days ago. The NBA is a horrible example.

 

Coaches don’t matter nearly as much as the NFL. The Warriors tried hard instead of going home, the Bruins did the same thing two days ago. I don’t think it was anything beyond both teams giving a professional level of effort. 

 

This is their jobs. Saying the Bills won’t quit isn’t really paying them a compliment.

 

 

The only NBA coach that even compares to an NFL coach is Popovich and it took him a long time in a different era to build up that credibility...............and despite that he lost the first "modern" superstar that he got because his my-way approach is a hard sell now.

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1 hour ago, wagon127 said:

If a championship was on the line, It would be a good motivational tool. But under normal circumstances, for a regular season game, I would prefer my players to not tear an ACL, due to not waiting till you were actually healed enough to play.

Achilles not ACL right? I didn’t even know a calf injury could lead to that? I have had a strained calf for about two months and have been aggravating it jogging. I’m going to do some research, I don’t need anything like that! 

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4 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

I think there's no way the Warriors win the series, but last night Curry and Thompson and Iguadala and Green and Durant and Looney and Cousins marked themselves forever as champions.  They were in the theirs graves and Leonard was dropping the last shovels full of dirt on them, and they rose up and said "not yet."   We're going to see Bills teams do that, because McDermott is training them to do it.  

They were bound to win another game. Never again champions is more like it.

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19 minutes ago, CommonCents said:

Only if you ask them how they lost to Lebron James and Matthew Delladova. If they answer it was because of TY LUE then I will eat my shoe.

 

Thats window dressing, observing a wrestling coach etc. He is in the same division as the greatest coach in the history of the game. The example to follow has been slapping the Bills and their fans in the face for the better part of two decades. 

Observing a wrestling coach gives you a different kind of skill than spying on BB.  A wrestling coach's skill lies in his ability to communicate very minute specifics of a move, and do so in a way that his team can all understand it and try to deliver.  To me, it's a great skill for a football position coach to have.  As for a head coach, maybe McD is trying to learn how to communicate better to his staff, or to the defense. 

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4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Was there a lot of clapping?

Too much actually.  When KD went down with a injury, the Toronto fans were applauding.  The Raps players had to tell then to act like they have some class.

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