DC Tom Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: All of your candidates are extreme left candidates. Some are just more vocal. When the debates start, the first question will be about socialism, and when you hear them all talking about how the problem with socialism is it just wasn't done right, that'll be the end of that. And if that doesn't do it, the endless list of candidates who already signed on the AOC's campaign manager's Green Deal will certainly wipe them out. Socialism, Open Borders, dead babies and Global Warming Cooling Climate Change are the Donner Party's priority right now. The problem is that is not the average American's priority. And even if you can convince Biden and his Rhetorical Flourish to run, sticking him with an Open Borders Hero like Robert Francis is a death call. That just made me realize...Ocasio-Cortez is going to give someone an endorsement. People are going to ask her for an endorsement. And she will give it. The media will actively seek her out to endorse someone...and she will. This *****'s going to need calliope music. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: What experience does she have? Is this a serious question? 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: Besides, I don't think we're ready for a transgender president. your a idiot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: All of your candidates are extreme left candidates. Some are just more vocal. When the debates start, the first question will be about socialism, and when you hear them all talking about how the problem with socialism is it just wasn't done right, that'll be the end of that. And if that doesn't do it, the endless list of candidates who already signed on the AOC's campaign manager's Green Deal will certainly wipe them out. Socialism, Open Borders, dead babies and Global Warming Cooling Climate Change are the Donner Party's priority right now. The problem is that is not the average American's priority. And even if you can convince Biden and his Rhetorical Flourish to run, sticking him with an Open Borders Hero like Robert Francis is a death call. Has there ever been a poll of the average age over here at PPP? Just curious. Seems it might shed some light on some of the things I read over here. Boy the way you present these things just tells me how wildly I differ in opinion from most of PPP, in all likelihood. This country has waves of young voters who are likely to come out and actually vote, just like they did a few months ago. Those young voters ain't votin for Trump. Edited February 28, 2019 by transplantbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Is this a serious question? your a idiot. You're Yes, answer it if you can. Edited March 1, 2019 by 3rdnlng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 Just now, 3rdnlng said: You're thanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Just now, transplantbillsfan said: thanx I edited the above post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Has there ever been a poll of the average age over here at PPP? Just curious. Seems it might shed some light on some of the things I read over here. Boy the way you present these things just tells me how wildly I differ in opinion from most of PPP, in all likelihood. This country has waves of young voters who are likely to come out and actually vote, just like they did a few months ago. Those young voters ain't votin for Trump. And they ain't votin' for Biden, either. They'll vote for Harris or Booker or Robert Francis, and there aren't enough young kids in the middle of the country to get it done because the older electorate wants protected borders, no late term abortions, and it'll be a cold day in hell when the older folks think a socialist is a good idea. You, however, sound like you are embracing the Dem Socialist platform. Is that correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: for the whole post - just highlighting this portion to make a joke/point: I had this line singled out with the same answer before seeing yours. Get out of my head! There is zero chance the Dem ticket is 1). all male and 2). all white. That'd be as dumb as, say... Mitt Romney picking Paul Ryan. Edited March 1, 2019 by Golden Goat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 hour ago, TakeYouToTasker said: @transplantbillsfan The other major factor to consider is how large the group of individuals who will vote for President Trump 2020, who didn’t/refused to in the last election, has grown. Self professed, you don’t spend much time in PPP. I think you would be absolutely astounded by the percentage of this sub-forum, which you probably believe to be “right-leaning” but is actually far more libertarian/classically liberal, were very vocally anti-Tump in 2016. These are people, like myself, who feared the President would act as the Democrat he had been in public life for the last 40 years. We thought he’d destroy American conservatism forever. We were wrong, and have been extremely pleased, in many cases, with President Trump’s leadership. I can’t speak for others here, but I’ll be enthusiastically casting my ballot for the President in 2020; and I think they will too. I feel this is representitive of a huge cross-section of American voters. I don't think that faction is that big. I would venture there's more people who stayed home who usually vote Democrat because they didn't like Hillary (or assumed she would win) than Republicans who stayed at home because they didn't like Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 23 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: This country has waves of young voters who are likely to come out and actually vote, just like they did a few months ago. Those young voters ain't votin for Trump. Wrong. They are too busy eating Xanax and taking bong hits while playing Fortnite. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Teddy KGB said: Wrong. They are too busy eating Xanax and taking bong hits while playing Fortnite. Tide Pods. You forgot Tide Pods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Tide Pods. You forgot Tide Pods. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 22 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: You're Yes, answer it if you can. She has 8 years of being a 1st hand observer and secondary executive to the President of the United States. C'mon man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: She has 8 years of being a 1st hand observer and secondary executive to the President of the United States. C'mon man... So is Laura Bush qualified to be President? How about Melania Trump? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: I don't think that faction is that big. I would venture there's more people who stayed home who usually vote Democrat because they didn't like Hillary (or assumed she would win) than Republicans who stayed at home because they didn't like Trump. I’ll remind you that Barack Obama was the most popular candidate of all time in terms of votes cast. President Trump won the Pesidential election doing worse than Mitt Romney, who was a milquetoast candidate. Conservatives are both a) abhorred by the New Democratic Party Line (IE. I’ll stay home if it’s a choice between Trump and Clinton, but I’ll be damned if I stay home if it’s a choice between open borders and infanticide, and Trump), and b) galivinized by both Trump’s record as Executive, and the behavior of rank and file progressives making war on them, often violently. I believe President Trump secures 72-75m votes in 2020. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 19 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: And they ain't votin' for Biden, either. They'll vote for Harris or Booker or Robert Francis, and there aren't enough young kids in the middle of the country to get it done because the older electorate wants protected borders, no late term abortions, and it'll be a cold day in hell when the older folks think a socialist is a good idea. You, however, sound like you are embracing the Dem Socialist platform. Is that correct? I love the aspirational ideals of the Green New Deal, but not all parts of it essentially for how it would or would not be put into practice. I absolutely believe in man's influence on our climate. Considering how much we've changed the world in the last century, I believe it's foolish not to. Plus, there's science. I absolutely believe everyone should get health care and I'm fine paying more in taxes for it. Our taxes go to things like our highways and bridges and airports and trains and education system and social security and so on... they should absolutely go towards people getting health coverage, too. I absolutely believe there's been a history of repression of women, of people of color, and of indigenous people (Native Americans, Hawaiians, etc.) that's systemic in our very culture that needs to change. If you think I'm a Democratic Socialist because of those things in particular, fine. But no, I do not consider myself a Socialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: She has 8 years of being a 1st hand observer and secondary executive to the President of the United States. C'mon man... What? This is stupid. What other jobs to you believe have transative properties to the spouse of the professional? Doctors? Lawyers? Wealth mangers? Plumbers? Electricians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, /dev/null said: So is Laura Bush qualified to be President? How about Melania Trump? Was Donald Trump? A business is not a country. Were Barack Obama or John F. Kennedy? They were Senators and never executives of anything. I'd say being up close and personal as 1st Lady is a damn positive notch on the qualification scale if she checks other boxes. Edited March 1, 2019 by transplantbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 minute ago, TakeYouToTasker said: What? This is stupid. What other jobs to you believe have transative properties to the spouse of the professional? Doctors? Lawyers? Wealth mangers? Plumbers? Electricians? Quarterbacks! And if you can get someone to organize an Easter Egg hunt at the White House, surely that means you possess the chutzpah to govern a nation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: What? This is stupid. What other jobs to you believe have transative properties to the spouse of the professional? Doctors? Lawyers? Wealth mangers? Plumbers? Electricians? She worked in the Public sector as an Assistant to the Mayor of Chicago, Assistant Commissioner of Planning and Development, Executive Director for the Chicago office of Public Allies, Associate Dean of Student Services at the University of Chicago developing the University's Community Service Center, worked as executive director for community affairs and then as Vice President for Community and External Affairs for Chicago Hospitals. She's super smart, graduating from Princeton and then Harvard law school. She's very well-spoken, which would help in addressing not only the public, but also in foreign relations. She's a fantastic role-model. That more than checks any boxes she would need, especially now that so many boxes have been eliminated with our current president. If Michelle Obama ran for President, she would win. If she ran against Trump, it wouldn't surprise me if he would bow out knowing the inevitable outcome. But she's not running, so no point in discussing it, really. But I was challenged to answer a question, so I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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