Irv Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) I'm pretty sure Kraft is rubbing his forehead and tugging at his collar. But, he ain't gonna get yanked around or tossed out. The league won't jerk with him. I wouldn't be surprised if this turned into a happy ending. Edited February 26, 2019 by Irv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Which is why they can't take picks away. Richardson was harassing his own employees. Yeah, totally different situation, at least when you pay for sex there's consent . . . oh wait . . . Edited February 26, 2019 by Steve Billieve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, Doc said: He won't do jail time obviously. But being forced to step down is something I can definitely see happening. Who's going to vote for that? This guy?: My guess is that would be a precedent that few owners would want to set. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, Steve Billieve said: Yeah, totally different situation, at least when you pay for sex there's consent . . . oh wait . . . The consent is implied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 I think it's funny all you guys think he just got a handjob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 34 minutes ago, KD in CA said: Public humiliation and CBS not showing him in his owner's box nine times each game is good enough for me. Or showing him and asking if he's still getting the Pulled Pork sandwich 11 minutes ago, nucci said: I think it's funny all you guys think he just got a handjob don't gross me out !!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 25 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Who's going to vote for that? This guy?: My guess is that would be a precedent that few owners would want to set. I can respect Jerrah, pulling down nice looking woman. He’s probably embarrassed that a fellow owner is trolling $59 run n tug joints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, KD in CA said: I can respect Jerrah, pulling down nice looking woman. He’s probably embarrassed that a fellow owner is trolling $59 run n tug joints. I'm sure he compensated those women well. the one on her knees barely looks 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 32 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Who's going to vote for that? This guy?: My guess is that would be a precedent that few owners would want to set. Jerruh’s just one guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Irv said: I'm pretty sure Kraft is rubbing his forehead and tugging at his collar. But, he ain't gonna get yanked around or tossed out. The league won't jerk with him. I wouldn't be surprised if this turned into a happy ending. They'll take all of his money. He'll be so broke, he'll be working with the catering team, tossing salads at Gillette. 4 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: It's a misdemeanor he's charged with. "The book" would be 6 months per charge. At Penn St., Sandusky was raping children in the building and his HC and employer knew it. I understand that he'll get away with a slap on the wrist. But he SHOULD be put away for life, again, assuming these are sex slaves. Demand creates supply, so morally speaking, he's just as guilty as the people at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 I'm thinking he gets approx. what irsay got. But telling him he has to fire everyone and sell the teAm seems more fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 hour ago, KD in CA said: I can respect Jerrah, pulling down nice looking woman. He’s probably embarrassed that a fellow owner is trolling $59 run n tug joints. True. Jerry doesn't respect thrift. 1 hour ago, Doc said: Jerruh’s just one guy. Again, it would be unprecedented. The precedent that has been set is suspension and fine--Irsay was busted for DUI and 4 felony drug counts (a week or so after one of his mistresses OD'd in a condo he had bought her). He pled down and paid the price set by the league. 13 minutes ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said: They'll take all of his money. He'll be so broke, he'll be working with the catering team, tossing salads at Gillette. I understand that he'll get away with a slap on the wrist. But he SHOULD be put away for life, again, assuming these are sex slaves. Demand creates supply, so morally speaking, he's just as guilty as the people at the top. In this country, they don't send guys away for life for paying for HJs in rub and tug shops...your moral outrage notwithstanding. Also, I would bet lots of these places have engaged or are engaged in human trafficking. This may be a new concept to you, but it's really not new or unusual, sadly. Demand creates supply, eh? Well then, why stop with prostitution? Illegal drugs are controlled at the source, for the most part, by violent cartels that murder rivals, cops, civilians. There is blood on every shipment into the country. Will you have every person busted for drug possession do "life" because people were killed so that they may enjoy their imported illicit drugs.....because, you know, "demand creates supply"? The people who should go away for a long time are the men and women who brought these workers here and preyed upon their hopes for a better life by imprisoning them. Of course all of this could be swiftly eliminated with the legalization of prostitution. Every "massage parlor" could be certified "human sex trafficking free" by the state by demanding documentation and licensing of every worker. There would simply be no need for anyone to go to an "illegal" rub and tug when the certified ones would be far safer, cleaner, etc. Your state politicians should also "go away for life" for not proposing and passing such laws, no? I mean, their inaction has "created supply" of trafficked humans, has it not? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Again, it would be unprecedented. The precedent that has been set is suspension and fine--Irsay was busted for DUI and 4 felony drug counts (a week or so after one of his mistresses OD'd in a condo he had bought her). He pled down and paid the price set by the league. The drug charges weren't felonious since he had prescriptions for them. And then there's Jerry Richardson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Let Lorena Bobbitt dish out the penalty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 27 minutes ago, Doc said: The drug charges weren't felonious since he had prescriptions for them. And then there's Jerry Richardson. The prescriptions came from a doctor and pharmacy in partnership of running a pill mill. Richardson has already been discussed. He was sexually and racially harassing his own employees. Then he paid them to keep silent. As anyone can conclude, that's different than paying for a happy ending. And people here seem to forget that Richardson voluntarily sold the Panthers..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The prescriptions came from a doctor and pharmacy in partnership of running a pill mill. Richardson has already been discussed. He was sexually and racially harassing his own employees. Then he paid them to keep silent. As anyone can conclude, that's different than paying for a happy ending. And people here seem to forget that Richardson voluntarily sold the Panthers..... Paying for sex is illegal and while Irsay may have gotten fake prescriptions, he had them. There's no prescription for what Bobby did. And the fact that they were sex slaves, whether he knew about it or not, is bad optics for the NFL and that's what they care about most. And I didn't say that Kraft will have to sell the team. I said stepping-down is a real possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 5 hours ago, nucci said: I think it's funny all you guys think he just got a handjob It's been described in detail from the police video. That's all he got. Twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Doc said: Paying for sex is illegal and while Irsay may have gotten fake prescriptions, he had them. There's no prescription for what Bobby did. And the fact that they were sex slaves, whether he knew about it or not, is bad optics for the NFL and that's what they care about most. And I didn't say that Kraft will have to sell the team. I said stepping-down is a real possibility. Yes, it's illegal. That's why there's a warrant out for his arrest. But just like Irsay "had prescriptions" to make the felony charges tough to prove, the fact that these women were trafficked won't have any bearing on his plea deal. And therefore, it won't have much impact on his penalty from the league, I think. In effect, they would be asserting that he had to have known, or that it was even reasonable for anyone to have known that these particular women were there against their will. That's an impossible assumption to make. Also, "stepping down" would be a voluntary act by Kraft. So why even mention it as a penalty (or bring up Richardson, for that matter)? Edited February 27, 2019 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Just now, Mr. WEO said: Yes, it's illegal. That's why there's a warrant out for his arrest. But just like Irsay "had prescriptions" to make the felony charges tough to prove, the fact that these women were trafficked won't have any bearing on his plea deal. And therefore, it won't have much impact on his penalty from the league, I think. In effect, they would be asserting that he had to have known, or that it was even reasonable for anyone to have known that these particular women were there against their will. That's not possible. Also, "stepping down" would be a voluntary act by Kraft. So why even mention it as a penalty (or bring up Richardson, for that matter)? If he were to step down, it wouldn't be voluntary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Just now, Doc said: If he were to step down, it wouldn't be voluntary. How so? There is no precedent for "involuntary stepping down". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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