\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 I had lunch today with a friend of mine who grew up in Syracuse, and he was telling me about this. https://auburnpub.com/blogs/eye_on_ny/grid-tunnel-or-viaduct-a-look-at-three-options-for/article_89a4313a-48ed-5121-addc-4f324d07f3dd.html https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0430889,-76.1438985,2239m/data=!3m1!1e3 Summary: Interstate 81 runs through the middle of Syracuse on a long bridge. The bridge is 60 years old and needs replacement. So the government will have to do one of the following: $1,000,000,000 - tear down the bridge and shift traffic to Interstate 481 (which goes around the city) $2,000,000,000 - tear down the bridge and build a new bridge in the same spot $4.000,000,000 - tear down the bridge and build a tunnel So, whatever they do, the government will have to spend a small fortune. And since it's an interstate highway, it's federal money and not state money.
DC Tom Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 8:03 PM, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: I had lunch today with a friend of mine who grew up in Syracuse, and he was telling me about this. https://auburnpub.com/blogs/eye_on_ny/grid-tunnel-or-viaduct-a-look-at-three-options-for/article_89a4313a-48ed-5121-addc-4f324d07f3dd.html https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0430889,-76.1438985,2239m/data=!3m1!1e3 Summary: Interstate 81 runs through the middle of Syracuse on a long bridge. The bridge is 60 years old and needs replacement. So the government will have to do one of the following: $1,000,000,000 - tear down the bridge and shift traffic to Interstate 481 (which goes around the city) $2,000,000,000 - tear down the bridge and build a new bridge in the same spot $4.000,000,000 - tear down the bridge and build a tunnel So, whatever they do, the government will have to spend a small fortune. And since it's an interstate highway, it's federal money and not state money. Expand Or build a GREEN bridge, but don't ask how much it costs, just sit back and enjoy the prosperity it causes. 1 4
Koko78 Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 8:09 PM, DC Tom said: Or build a GREEN bridge, but don't ask how much it costs, just sit back and enjoy the prosperity it causes. Expand Of course, if it's part of the 'Green Dream or whatever', it will be built by the hopes and dreams of those unwilling to work, with both cars and farting cow prohibited from crossing it.
Foxx Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 8:09 PM, DC Tom said: Or build a GREEN bridge, but don't ask how much it costs, just sit back and enjoy the prosperity it causes. Expand is it shovel ready too?
BeginnersMind Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 8:03 PM, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: I had lunch today with a friend of mine who grew up in Syracuse, and he was telling me about this. https://auburnpub.com/blogs/eye_on_ny/grid-tunnel-or-viaduct-a-look-at-three-options-for/article_89a4313a-48ed-5121-addc-4f324d07f3dd.html https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0430889,-76.1438985,2239m/data=!3m1!1e3 Summary: Interstate 81 runs through the middle of Syracuse on a long bridge. The bridge is 60 years old and needs replacement. So the government will have to do one of the following: $1,000,000,000 - tear down the bridge and shift traffic to Interstate 481 (which goes around the city) $2,000,000,000 - tear down the bridge and build a new bridge in the same spot $4.000,000,000 - tear down the bridge and build a tunnel So, whatever they do, the government will have to spend a small fortune. And since it's an interstate highway, it's federal money and not state money. Expand What is the question? Bridge is failing and some solutions are on the table for consideration.
DC Tom Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 On 2/23/2019 at 8:10 PM, BeginnersMind said: What is the question? Bridge is failing and some solutions are on the table for consideration. Expand But not the best solution: flying cars.
Foxx Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 On 2/23/2019 at 8:19 PM, DC Tom said: But not the best solution: flying cars. Expand
The_Dude Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 What if we build the bridge with solar panels so it makes us money?
Just Jack Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) I live here, the people that think there could be a tunnel option are idiots. It's been said time and time again that a tunnel will not happen. They've been talking about this for 10 years, and a decision was supposed to be made 2 years ago. But being a government job, of course it was delayed for more study. If you're bored, here's some articles and websites about the process... https://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2018/01/despite_repeated_rejections_the_tunnel_just_wont_go_away_a_timeline_of_i-81.html http://thei81challenge.org/ http://www.savei81.org/i-81-project-projected-vs-actual-timeline/ https://www.dot.ny.gov/i81opportunities/history Edited February 24, 2019 by Just Jack
Just Jack Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 DOT selects Community Grid as 'preferred' choice for I-81 replacement https://cnycentral.com/news/local/dot-selects-community-grid-as-preferred-choice-for-i-81-replacement Quote The DOT report says the grid would cost about $1.9 billion. Construction would begin in May 2020 and take about five years. Expand
DollarBills Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 Honestly this is the best option. I-81 tore the downtown in half when it was built 50+ years ago. For the amount of daily traffic from I-81 that's actually going downtown vs. passing through, a highway in this spot isn't necessary. I'm sure when it was designed in the 50s/60s, they were anticipating regional population growth that hasn't happened. Commuter traffic from the north and south will be able to get into downtown just fine with the community grid plan.
keepthefaith Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 I think they should consult with Bill De Blasio. He's got some good ideas. 1
row_33 Posted April 23, 2019 Posted April 23, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 8:09 PM, DC Tom said: Or build a GREEN bridge, but don't ask how much it costs, just sit back and enjoy the prosperity it causes. Expand and many eggs will be broken to build their utopian omelette
Just Jack Posted May 2, 2019 Posted May 2, 2019 No surprise, the state recommends the community grid option, the "cheapest" at about $2B. Want to read the 15,000 page report? Here it is... https://www.dot.ny.gov/i81opportunities/repository 1
Taro T Posted May 2, 2019 Posted May 2, 2019 On 5/2/2019 at 3:45 AM, Just Jack said: No surprise, the state recommends the community grid option, the "cheapest" at about $2B. Want to read the 15,000 page report? Here it is... https://www.dot.ny.gov/i81opportunities/repository Expand Having a hard enough time finding the time to get fully through the Mueller report.
LB3 Posted May 2, 2019 Posted May 2, 2019 On 5/2/2019 at 3:45 AM, Just Jack said: No surprise, the state recommends the community grid option, the "cheapest" at about $2B. Want to read the 15,000 page report? Here it is... https://www.dot.ny.gov/i81opportunities/repository Expand This sounds like it's going to be a nightmare on my 481-S commute to Carrier Circle every morning.
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