Alphadawg7 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said: Brown coming to Buffalo would be stupid for him. he should go to the Packers. Rodgers can handle him and make better use. Bills still only have one TE signed. lets fix that first and an O line that , well , needs some work. long term sustainable winning. that means smart staggered contracts. Brown should go to a very solid SB contender. just my humble opinion. ( and i think his screws are too loose ) Its not really his choice here, he has no leverage really. Steelers will make the trade that is the best return. So thats really on the Packers, will they step up and make the best offer, or any offer at all is the question. They have those 2 first rounders already mentioned, so they could probably outbid people by sending one of those over. I doubt there will be many, if any, suitors willing to pay a first round pick for him. His talent is worth it, but given the combo of age, contract size (limits suitors via cap space) and recent PR issues with him will hurt his market and I think he may ultimately be traded for a 2nd rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 3 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: long term sustainable winning. that means smart staggered contracts. Brown should go to a very solid SB contender. just my humble opinion. ( and i think his screws are too loose ) No argument there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thenorthremembers Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 8 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I don't disagree here. The Steelers went from a team of team first guys to a bunch of prima donnas who were more interested in their brand than winning a superbowl. You'll see the outcome of that this year when Bell doesn't get what he wants on the open market and Brown spends the next two to three years being a shell of his former self playing with a worse quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Being a leader ... Lots of soap opera stuff. Lets add to it Reality TV style Does it mean you should be a d-bag? Does it mean you shouldn't listen to teammates? Does it mean you should throw everyone but yourself under the bus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 15 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Its not really his choice here, he has no leverage really. Steelers will make the trade that is the best return. So thats really on the Packers, will they step up and make the best offer, or any offer at all is the question. They have those 2 first rounders already mentioned, so they could probably outbid people by sending one of those over. I doubt there will be many, if any, suitors willing to pay a first round pick for him. His talent is worth it, but given the combo of age, contract size (limits suitors via cap space) and recent PR issues with him will hurt his market and I think he may ultimately be traded for a 2nd rounder. I think a 2nd rounder might be something Mc Beane would consider IMO, so I hope you are correct Alpha, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, Figster said: I think a 2nd rounder might be something Mc Beane would consider IMO, so I hope you are correct Alpha, I think so too, although I still don't expect Beane to do it. However given the alleged interest in Hunt, shows me Beane both wants talent and believes in McD running this ship and controlling the news and locker room. So I won't rule it out, and I think a 2nd is the most realistic price tag. I think the only 2 teams that would trade a first are Raiders or Packers given they have extra picks. But honestly, Raiders don't really make sense, they are not a player away from being good over the next couple of years. Brown would be a wasted first round pick when they could use that to invest in youth on a depleted roster. But the time that roster turns the corner, Brown is going to be likely on the decline or close to it. If they are going to spend a first on Brown, they should have just kept Cooper who is a lot younger and cheaper and could be a building block where as Brown is more of a win over the next few years type player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 On 2/16/2019 at 10:01 AM, YoloinOhio said: He hates Ben this went on most of the season, nothing new here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 18 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: Brown coming to Buffalo would be stupid for him. he should go to the Packers. Rodgers can handle him and make better use. Bills still only have one TE signed. lets fix that first and an O line that , well , needs some work. long term sustainable winning. that means smart staggered contracts. Brown should go to a very solid SB contender. just my humble opinion. ( and i think his screws are too loose ) Buffalo's D and Josh Allen are 2 very big reasons to consider the Buffalo Bills IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I think so too, although I still don't expect Beane to do it. However given the alleged interest in Hunt, shows me Beane both wants talent and believes in McD running this ship and controlling the news and locker room. So I won't rule it out, and I think a 2nd is the most realistic price tag. I think the only 2 teams that would trade a first are Raiders or Packers given they have extra picks. But honestly, Raiders don't really make sense, they are not a player away from being good over the next couple of years. Brown would be a wasted first round pick when they could use that to invest in youth on a depleted roster. But the time that roster turns the corner, Brown is going to be likely on the decline or close to it. If they are going to spend a first on Brown, they should have just kept Cooper who is a lot younger and cheaper and could be a building block where as Brown is more of a win over the next few years type player. The handle McD has on the locker room is why I think the AB to Buffalo trade makes sense. Tomlin is a big part of the problem in Steeler country IMO. We have two elite players now that really don't want to play for the Steelers. How about Bell and Brown both in Bills uni's, Steal the killer B's from the Steelers Edited February 21, 2019 by Figster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alphadawg7 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, Figster said: The handle McD has on the locker room is why I think the AB to Buffalo trade makes sense. Tomlin is a big part of the problem in Steeler country IMO. We have two elite players now that really don't want to play for the Steelers. I fully agree with all this. Not convinced Beane is going to go this route, mostly given this is a great WR draft, especially in depth, and Beane is a total build through the draft guy. Ive been saying Tomlin is over rated for a while, and other players have criticized how he manages the locker room, both current and past. Meanwhile, McD I feel has a great grasp on that locker room and total respect from players. So, I do think Beane won't be scared off as much by Brown in terms of locker room, but just not sure he wants to give up a high asset for a 31 year old WR on such a young team. And like I said, this is a WR rich draft, so that asset could bring in a valuable WR prospect that could be a one two punch with Allen for the next decade. Then again, with the defense already pretty good, he may want to expedite Allens growth by giving him a very talented weapon right now. So won't shock me to see us interested or even trade for him, I just still think its more likely they look at FA and Draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, Figster said: The handle McD has on the locker room is why I think the AB to Buffalo trade makes sense. Tomlin is a big part of the problem in Steeler country IMO. We have two elite players now that really don't want to play for the Steelers. How about Bell and Brown both in Bills uni's, Steal the killer B's from the Steelers Missed the part of both Bells in a Bills uni...I would cry tears of joy. Admittedly, I have said I prefer to not spend so much on Bell, but if he was a Bill, I would be excited still. Not like I write the checks. Both of them would be incredible. However, my expectation of the odds of landing both is pretty close to 0% and I am still pretty sure neither come here. But I reserve the right to be ecstatic if the Killer B's are on this roster next season haha. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: Missed the part of both Bells in a Bills uni...I would cry tears of joy. Admittedly, I have said I prefer to not spend so much on Bell, but if he was a Bill, I would be excited still. Not like I write the checks. Both of them would be incredible. However, my expectation of the odds of landing both is pretty close to 0% and I am still pretty sure neither come here. But I reserve the right to be ecstatic if the Killer B's are on this roster next season haha. As would I... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 19 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...there ain't enough Depends, bourbon or popcorn in WNY for me to withstand waiting for McDermott to explain how an AB signing "fits the process".....can a HC be defrocked??.. ... you and I aren't getting any younger my friend... ... AB might speed up the process... ...I'm just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Figster said: Buffalo's D and Josh Allen are 2 very big reasons to consider the Buffalo Bills IMO. as a receiver i think you look what the passing game last year. and the Offense as a whole. if i was Brown? i would pass. and if i was me ? i don't want him here. Develop via the draft and youth at Wr. and that is why Bills need to fix the O line and TEs. protect Josh and run the damned ball effectively : ) Edited February 21, 2019 by 3rdand12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: as a receiver i think you look what the passing game last year. and the Offense as a whole. if i was Brown? i would pass. and if i was me ? i don't want him here. Develop via the draft and youth at Wr. and that is why Bills need to fix the O line and TEs. protect Josh and run the damned ball effectively : ) as a receiver If you look at kevin Benjamin, the Bills WR's and TE's, and the Offense as a whole. If I was Brown I would say " Damn Josh, you could use some help, and I love catching the football" and If I was me, (which I hope I'm me ) I want him here because he gives Allen the best WR in the game as a go to guy. Protect Josh, give him some AB, then together they would conquer the universe/ win Championships. ...Amen... ...end of story... : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Man, Big Ben sounds like an awesome teammate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 10 hours ago, Figster said: as a receiver If you look at kevin Benjamin, the Bills WR's and TE's, and the Offense as a whole. If I was Brown I would say " Damn Josh, you could use some help, and I love catching the football" and If I was me, (which I hope I'm me ) I want him here because he gives Allen the best WR in the game as a go to guy. Protect Josh, give him some AB, then together they would conquer the universe/ win Championships. ...Amen... ...end of story... : ) I do like your attitude sir ! 9 hours ago, stony said: Man, Big Ben sounds like an awesome teammate. even better drinking buddy : ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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