RochesterRob Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Did not Journey have a clip from one of their tours using Rich Stadium in their MTV video cut? I think that the video might have been "Girl can't help it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 I saw them there opening for the Stones ... I think it was in 1981 ... They only played for about 15 minutes tops before just leaving the stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: I saw them there opening for the Stones ... I think it was in 1981 ... They only played for about 15 minutes tops before just leaving the stage. Didnt they get booed off stage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 12 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Didnt they get booed off stage? I think it was more that people weren't paying any attention to them as all eyes were diverted to some idiot who was trying to cross the field using one of those cables that held up the screen in the end zone that FG's and XP's hit. Besides that, George Thorogood opened the show and he won the audience over, Journey couldn't match George. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 hours ago, frostbitmic said: I think it was more that people weren't paying any attention to them as all eyes were diverted to some idiot who was trying to cross the field using one of those cables that held up the screen in the end zone that FG's and XP's hit. Besides that, George Thorogood opened the show and he won the audience over, Journey couldn't match George. I'm kind of surprised as Journey was the "it" band of the early 1980's. But one has to consider the sounds are different between the two. Thorogood probably has a little more pull with a working class audience. Still have not found my answer as I can't find the actual MTV clip. Lots of reunion concert material. Perhaps the original material is protected from Youtube viewership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 15 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Didnt they get booed off stage? hope so 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: hope so If they put your date in a good mood then you never want them booed off. I know that they are not alpha male material but they have their place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: I'm kind of surprised as Journey was the "it" band of the early 1980's. But one has to consider the sounds are different between the two. Thorogood probably has a little more pull with a working class audience. Still have not found my answer as I can't find the actual MTV clip. Lots of reunion concert material. Perhaps the original material is protected from Youtube viewership. Journey was NOT the it band in the early 80's. Everyone had a WTF moment when they were announced as the opening act for that Stones show. They were and still are a chick band from the era, and the nostalgia act is rewriting history about their popularity back in the day. They rank right up with REO Speedwagon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 minute ago, GG said: Journey was NOT the it band in the early 80's. Everyone had a WTF moment when they were announced as the opening act for that Stones show. They were and still are a chick band from the era, and the nostalgia act is rewriting history about their popularity back in the day. They rank right up with REO Speedwagon We can go back and forth on Journey and like I said they are not an alpha male band. They were getting the most airtime for a group on MTV back when that first started. As far as the Stones go while I liked a fair amount of their material they were derided as being the band for your brother who is 8-10 years older than you. It still does not change the bottom line for me which is trying to get and keep a desirable girl who happens to be into Journey complete with concert shirt. The ones with a white body and colored sleeves made of a thick cotton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: We can go back and forth on Journey and like I said they are not an alpha male band. They were getting the most airtime for a group on MTV back when that first started. As far as the Stones go while I liked a fair amount of their material they were derided as being the band for your brother who is 8-10 years older than you. It still does not change the bottom line for me which is trying to get and keep a desirable girl who happens to be into Journey complete with concert shirt. The ones with a white body and colored sleeves made of a thick cotton. It's more about the promoters' stupidity of sandwiching Journey between Thorogood and the Stones. And Journey reinforced it by sucking on stage. Much unlike The Clash in the following year. PS - May that promoter rot in hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockpile Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, GG said: It's more about the promoters' stupidity of sandwiching Journey between Thorogood and the Stones. And Journey reinforced it by sucking on stage. Much unlike The Clash in the following year. PS - May that promoter rot in hell Was that when the Clash opened for The Who concert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, GG said: It's more about the promoters' stupidity of sandwiching Journey between Thorogood and the Stones. And Journey reinforced it by sucking on stage. Much unlike The Clash in the following year. PS - May that promoter rot in hell Agreed. Journey is not a fit with the Stones and Thorogood. The promoter no doubt was looking at MTV airtime and national sales and not considering the audience. I think Buffalo has been short changed a fair amount in this respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, rockpile said: Was that when the Clash opened for The Who concert? Absolutely. The blew the stadium away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 5 hours ago, frostbitmic said: I think it was more that people weren't paying any attention to them as all eyes were diverted to some idiot who was trying to cross the field using one of those cables that held up the screen in the end zone that FG's and XP's hit. Happened during a Bills Monday Night game I was at, 1975 vs the Giants. We were 4-0 going in and took a 14-0 lead when some dude did that. We weren't the same after that delay and lost 17-14. Then lost 3 of the next 4 and the season crumbled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 6 hours ago, GG said: Absolutely. The blew the stadium away. I was at that show too ... The promoter got it right for this one ... Opened with David Johansson who did an Animals cover and not much else ... Followed by the Clash, who I wasn't a fan of before their performance ... their performance however changed my opinion... they were great ... The Who was phenomenal that night, the sound was perfect. 5 hours ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said: Happened during a Bills Monday Night game I was at, 1975 vs the Giants. We were 4-0 going in and took a 14-0 lead when some dude did that. We weren't the same after that delay and lost 17-14. Then lost 3 of the next 4 and the season crumbled. This idiot wasn't far from us .... Maybe 50 feet or so and 20 feet up at that point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 7 hours ago, RochesterRob said: We can go back and forth on Journey and like I said they are not an alpha male band. They were getting the most airtime for a group on MTV back when that first started. As far as the Stones go while I liked a fair amount of their material they were derided as being the band for your brother who is 8-10 years older than you. It still does not change the bottom line for me which is trying to get and keep a desirable girl who happens to be into Journey complete with concert shirt. The ones with a white body and colored sleeves made of a thick cotton. Filed with Foreigner, no thanks ever seriously more alpha than REO Speedwagon or Air Supply 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, row_33 said: Filed with Foreigner, no thanks ever seriously more alpha than REO Speedwagon or Air Supply I was more of a Leo Sayer fellow when I wanted to be mellow. Not really. I guess that you would have to go AC/DC if you really wanted the alpha male experience. TNT. Like I said for the right woman I would have put up with a couple hours of something I really did not like. Not some idiot with nice measurements but the complete package with brains and drive. I always fell for the honor roll girls in high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 hour ago, RochesterRob said: I was more of a Leo Sayer fellow when I wanted to be mellow. Not really. I guess that you would have to go AC/DC if you really wanted the alpha male experience. TNT. Like I said for the right woman I would have put up with a couple hours of something I really did not like. Not some idiot with nice measurements but the complete package with brains and drive. I always fell for the honor roll girls in high school. I don’t have to prove anything with dating boasting.... It’s all good, you had more fun than me.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockpile Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 On 2/5/2019 at 11:22 AM, GG said: Absolutely. They blew the stadium away. Yes they did! I was already a fan of the Clash. As forstbitmic said, "Opened with David Johansson who did an Animals cover and not much else." To be fair, Johansson was out of place at that venue. The crowd was not kind - very impatient. The Clash "rocked the casbah"! The Who started to sing "Love, Reign O'er Me" just when it started to rain. All things considered, without the big video screens they have today, a place like the Ralph is the WORST to see a band. I saw The Who at the Rochester War Memorial Auditorium in the early 70's (with Keith Moon) and it was the best! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 hour ago, rockpile said: The Clash "rocked the casbah"! The Who started to sing "Love, Reign O'er Me" just when it started to rain. And it stopped raining just as the song ended, to which Roger Daltrey joked, "I'll bet The Stones can't do that." I wasn't into The Clash at the time but I was impressed with their show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) July 4th 78. April Wine, Journey, Atlanta Rhythm Section, The Rolling Stones at Rich Stadium. The Stones were not very good imo. Played a short show with mostly new 'Some Girls' songs. Mick was ridiculously jacked on coke, flying around the stage wagging his finger like a maniac. People attacked the stage after the Stones refused to play an encore. Security at the stage were swinging 2 by 4s at people. I worked crowd control before the show but turned in my shirt and went in to enjoy the show. It was a fun time and afterward we got to raid all the confiscated coolers and booze. We headed out to Sunset Beach and partied for days at my buddies cottage. Wasn't at the 81 show where Journey got booed evidently, away at school. On 2/6/2019 at 9:27 AM, rockpile said: Yes they did! I was already a fan of the Clash. As forstbitmic said, "Opened with David Johansson who did an Animals cover and not much else." To be fair, Johansson was out of place at that venue. The crowd was not kind - very impatient. The Clash "rocked the casbah"! The Who started to sing "Love, Reign O'er Me" just when it started to rain. All things considered, without the big video screens they have today, a place like the Ralph is the WORST to see a band. I saw The Who at the Rochester War Memorial Auditorium in the early 70's (with Keith Moon) and it was the best! I worked crowd control outside at that show until the Clash were playing, then I went in. I was a big Who fan and that show was incredible. Never forget the 'Love, Reign O'er Me' magical rain. Edited February 21, 2019 by Turk71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 On 2/5/2019 at 8:07 AM, frostbitmic said: I think it was more that people weren't paying any attention to them as all eyes were diverted to some idiot who was trying to cross the field using one of those cables that held up the screen in the end zone that FG's and XP's hit. Besides that, George Thorogood opened the show and he won the audience over, Journey couldn't match George. No, they definitely got booed off the stage. It was the only time I've ever seen that................You are exactly right about Thorogood rocking the place and then wimpy Journey following. On 2/5/2019 at 10:58 AM, GG said: Journey was NOT the it band in the early 80's. Everyone had a WTF moment when they were announced as the opening act for that Stones show. They were and still are a chick band from the era, and the nostalgia act is rewriting history about their popularity back in the day. They rank right up with REO Speedwagon Exactly On 2/5/2019 at 11:19 AM, RochesterRob said: Agreed. Journey is not a fit with the Stones and Thorogood. The promoter no doubt was looking at MTV airtime and national sales and not considering the audience. I think Buffalo has been short changed a fair amount in this respect. MTV wasn't even on the air when that concert was put together. It started in August. The concert was in September. It definitely was not a factor. On 2/6/2019 at 1:57 PM, WhoTom said: And it stopped raining just as the song ended, to which Roger Daltrey joked, "I'll bet The Stones can't do that." That's exactly right except that it was Pete who said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, bbb said: That's exactly right except that it was Pete who said it. My recollection is that it was Daltrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, GG said: My recollection is that it was Daltrey We should bet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 On 2/5/2019 at 10:52 AM, RochesterRob said: I'm kind of surprised as Journey was the "it" band of the early 1980's. But one has to consider the sounds are different between the two. Thorogood probably has a little more pull with a working class audience. Still have not found my answer as I can't find the actual MTV clip. Lots of reunion concert material. Perhaps the original material is protected from Youtube viewership. I don't think this is what you are remembering, but at the very end of the "Send Her My Love" video, which shows a live performance in the old Veterans Stadium in Philadelphia...the camera pans out to an aerial shot of....The Cotton Bowl outside Dallas, Texas. That's not what you are thinking about, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: I don't think this is what you are remembering, but at the very end of the "Send Her My Love" video, which shows a live performance in the old Veterans Stadium in Philadelphia...the camera pans out to an aerial shot of....The Cotton Bowl outside Dallas, Texas. That's not what you are thinking about, is it? I don't believe so. Probably will never know until the original video can be seen. At the time a bunch of friends were under the same impression that I was. A dusk aerial shot coming from the southeast and I thought a time lapse clip of maybe 2-3 seconds of setting up for the concert. It would be one thing if it was just me. Of course groups of people have been fooled before such as those who thought the train trestle shot from Stand By Me was shot at Letchworth when in fact it was shot out west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: I don't believe so. Probably will never know until the original video can be seen. At the time a bunch of friends were under the same impression that I was. A dusk aerial shot coming from the southeast and I thought a time lapse clip of maybe 2-3 seconds of setting up for the concert. It would be one thing if it was just me. Of course groups of people have been fooled before such as those who thought the train trestle shot from Stand By Me was shot at Letchworth when in fact it was shot out west. The train trestle shot form Trains, Planes and Automobiles WAS Letchworth, though, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, bbb said: The train trestle shot form Trains, Planes and Automobiles WAS Letchworth, though, right? I would have to watch the footage to know for sure. The production notes say a lot of filming was done in Batavia and South Dayton, NY so it is possible. I have not seen it for probably 25 years now. It does have my favorite character actor William Windom (there was but not any more......) in it. Maybe I will watch it in full this coming weekend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 On 2/5/2019 at 8:07 AM, frostbitmic said: I think it was more that people weren't paying any attention to them as all eyes were diverted to some idiot who was trying to cross the field using one of those cables that held up the screen in the end zone that FG's and XP's hit. Besides that, George Thorogood opened the show and he won the audience over, Journey couldn't match George. I remember that show! It was raining, and Thorogood was wearing some sort of clear plastic rain slicker. Funny thing is, I don’t remember Journey at all. Either I was baked, or Journey was that forgettable. If George hadn’t opened, I wouldn’t have bothered going in until after Journey anyway. (Not a fan.) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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