Tiberius Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 The liar will lie. There is a humanitarian and national security crisis he wants to hype up to feed his shrinking base. How many lies will he tell? is he going to declare a state of emergency? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 You better double up on your valium, wouldn't want you to go into a fit. 6 more years of Daddy Trump!!! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 You really think his disinformation campaign will work again? Fool me once... Trump's base is only 1/3 of the country, that won't win another election. This nonsense of a national security crisis at the border only feeds the base. * Julia Ainsley reports that the actual number of suspected terrorists stopped at the southern border in 2018 was 6, which is one-seventh the number stopped at the Canadian border. Looks like we’ll need two walls! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 The narrative has been handed out to the lemmings to spread........................you cannot say "lies" enough..........lol........ That's fine...................let them .................as another poster would say.............."greatest meltdown ever" “Fact-checkers are eating their Wheaties and getting extra rest since they will be working overtime tonight to separate fact from fiction on this border situation,” Alisyn Camerota says ahead of President Trump’s prime-time address on border security https://cnn.it/2FgzDSI They should be pretty well "rested" after that eight year nap............ They genuinely still have zero understanding about why people elected a loose cannon like Trump. If you want to fact check him live, great. But you wouldn’t dream of doing it for the last guy & it will all cease with the next one & everybody knows it. NBC will broadcast the Dem response to Trump’s Oval Office speech but so far the MSM don’t seem as interested in organizing a fact-checking posse for that one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Well, I'm glad that the lefties and the media (redundant as that may be) have already determined that Trump's entire address will be lies. We don't need to watch it now, just make sure you tune in for their "fact checking" and "analysis" afterwards, so that we know what we missed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 but.. but... who is going to fact check the fact checkers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 How dare people call out this liar and chief! We want East Germany Now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) Gator's ignorance on full display today............... It is the dems and the media who are attempting a "socialist" solution of limiting what the people hear Only the approved narrative should be out there. The funny part is that, of the (unfortunately) few citizens who are interested to watch, how many do you think are going to hang around for Chuck and Nancy ? He’s LOST it! Don Lemon wants Trump’s speech delayed for ‘editing’ and the look on Chris Cuomo’s face is PRICELESS (watch) Trump will travel to US-Mexico border Thursday amid wall fight. . Edited January 8, 2019 by B-Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 Trump is a compulsive liar B-Man, believe the lies if you want. You want an East German style government, not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, B-Man said: The narrative has been handed out to the lemmings to spread........................you cannot say "lies" enough..........lol........ That's fine...................let them .................as another poster would say.............."greatest meltdown ever" “Fact-checkers are eating their Wheaties and getting extra rest since they will be working overtime tonight to separate fact from fiction on this border situation,” Alisyn Camerota says ahead of President Trump’s prime-time address on border security https://cnn.it/2FgzDSI They should be pretty well "rested" after that eight year nap............ They genuinely still have zero understanding about why people elected a loose cannon like Trump. If you want to fact check him live, great. But you wouldn’t dream of doing it for the last guy & it will all cease with the next one & everybody knows it. NBC will broadcast the Dem response to Trump’s Oval Office speech but so far the MSM don’t seem as interested in organizing a fact-checking posse for that one. Chuck Todd was on the radio this morning, and had a brilliantly subtle contradiction: the networks gave much thought to whether or not to give Trump air time, and reluctantly decided it was necessary (in order to refute his lies - apparently, NBC has something "special" planned for coverage). But when asked if Pelosi and Schumer should be given time as well, his answer was an immediate and energetic "Of course!" 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Nancy & Chuck, the gifts that keep on giving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 16 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Chuck Todd was on the radio this morning, and had a brilliantly subtle contradiction: the networks gave much thought to whether or not to give Trump air time, and reluctantly decided it was necessary (in order to refute his lies - apparently, NBC has something "special" planned for coverage). But when asked if Pelosi and Schumer should be given time as well, his answer was an immediate and energetic "Of course!" Are you promoting a false equivalency? Those two are not liars anywhere near the level of Trump. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just to be clear, because some of the posters here lack basic reading/logic skills. The media (see; liberals) don't mind the amount of Trump coverage they do, and clips of him speaking that average Americans see (it's good for business) It is when President Trump speaks live, directly to the public, that they get their panties bunched, because as a TV president he knows how to hit the right buttons and talk to the voters. We can't have anyone getting an "unapproved' message. Fourth Estate? Forget about it. Joe Lockhart wants to make the media the First Estate, with the right to rule on the veracity of presidential statements before the peons are permitted to hear them. On this morning's New Day, Lockhart, a CNN political commentator and former spokesman for President Clinton, recommended that the networks not provide live coverage this evening of President Trump's Oval Office address about the situation at the border. Instead, Lockhart said Trump should give the networks the text in advance, "and let us decide in advance what's true." Get the rest of the story and view the video here. at newsbusters.org ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: Just to be clear, because some of the posters here lack basic reading/logic skills. The media (see; liberals) don't mind the amount of Trump coverage they do, and clips of him speaking that average Americans see (it's good for business) It is when President Trump speaks live, directly to the public, that they get their panties bunched, because as a TV president he knows how to hit the right buttons and talk to the voters. We can't have anyone getting an "unapproved' message. Fourth Estate? Forget about it. Joe Lockhart wants to make the media the First Estate, with the right to rule on the veracity of presidential statements before the peons are permitted to hear them. On this morning's New Day, Lockhart, a CNN political commentator and former spokesman for President Clinton, recommended that the networks not provide live coverage this evening of President Trump's Oval Office address about the situation at the border. Instead, Lockhart said Trump should give the networks the text in advance, "and let us decide in advance what's true." Get the rest of the story and view the video here. at newsbusters.org ... Hey! It sure worked for him and the GOP for the midterms!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 It's almost like this thread was predicted yesterday, once the proper talking points went out of course. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 It's interesting that the media wants to fact check Trump's veracity (after already determining that his speech will be nothing but lies before hearing it), but don't you dare mention all the times they've been caught lying about his administration. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Koko78 said: It's interesting that the media wants to fact check Trump's veracity (after already determining that his speech will be nothing but lies before hearing it), but don't you dare mention all the times they've been caught lying about his administration. Like what lies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Tibtard, you're a good little puppet. Now go and put the clothes in the dryer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Like what lies? Start with Pelosi assuring the President and public he didn't have the votes in the House to pass the funding bill with the wall included. She was way off there. Or, another way to put it, she was lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Don't chase the ?️?️?️ D.R. ROGER SIMON: Bye-bye, Twitter. Trump Immigration Speech a Good Move. It's great news -- in fact high time -- that Donald Trump will be making a formal speech on immigration to the country Tuesday night. As the political heat reaches a boil in our country, the key to resolving difficult issues, not to mention enhancing the president's 2020 potential, will be more such speeches and less reliance on Twitter to communicate with the public. That some networks were unsure whether to air his address is a sure sign it is indeed a good idea. Did these broadcasters actually fear "partisanship," as they said, or the truth? Or was it just their own version of partisanship? Whatever the case, fewer tweets and more formal speeches is the better path. Twitter can be fun (or war games for ideologues -- if you prefer), but it doesn't do much to enlighten us or move the needle and is, to say the least, short on details. Further, its telegraphic style leaves it wide open to misconstruals --often, in fact usually, deliberate. And no one, as Selena Zito explained long ago, is misconstrued as often and as deliberately as Trump. Immigration isn't the only subject on which the people have been misinformed and/or misled and on which the president might benefit by addressing the public directly. The trade negotiations with China deserve public discussion as do the issues of taxation and economics now that socialism is enjoying something of a fad among millennials. (Who's to blame them when that's all they hear in their college courses? Venezuela is so far away.) There are others. But the issue du jour that is keeping our government closed -- in case you haven't noticed (ha!) -- is immigration. The discussion of this topic has been over-heated in the extreme. Indeed, it has hardly been about immigration and the border at all, but largely about power. Who wins? Who's responsible for the government shutdown? Which party profits? (Yawn.) The immigrants, legal and otherwise, are pawns in a far greater game few of them have heard of and even fewer understand. Given that situation, the president has all the more reason to address the public directly without the filter of the media. They will have plenty to say anyway for those who are interested. They and their Democrat semblables have been handed plenty of advance warning of what the president will be proposing to the country. A letter from Russell Vought, acting director of the Office of Management and Budget, spells out the administration request that seems entirely reasonable and, in the grand scheme of government spending, amazingly low cost. If every government program were as cheap as Trump's wall, the deficit would be gone in minutes. But speaking of walls, as many have heard, the wall for which the president is requesting $5.7 billion is now a "steel barrier." I suppose the change is to make the Democrats happy, but in an adult society the choice of materials would be left to those who know better -- engineers. (But we live in a world where politicians who couldn't pass a high school physics test opine on "climate science," so what do you expect?) More at the link: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Start with Pelosi assuring the President and public he didn't have the votes in the House to pass the funding bill with the wall included. She was way off there. Or, another way to put it, she was lying. She was wrong there, but that's different than scapegoating people, claiming there is a danger to the nation that doesn't exist on the scale he is claiming, like thousands of terrorists being captured. If that's the worst "lie" you guys can come up with... And she isn't the media, anyway. FYI 6 not 4,000 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/only-six-immigrants-terrorism-database-stopped-cbp-southern-border-first-n955861 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 39 minutes ago, Tiberius said: She was wrong there, but that's different than scapegoating people, claiming there is a danger to the nation that doesn't exist on the scale he is claiming, like thousands of terrorists being captured. If that's the worst "lie" you guys can come up with... And she isn't the media, anyway. FYI 6 not 4,000 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/only-six-immigrants-terrorism-database-stopped-cbp-southern-border-first-n955861 NBC is straight-up lying. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, DC Tom said: NBC is straight-up lying. There were 19 terrorists on the planes on 9/11. Had there only been 6, perhaps the death toll and ensuing chaos would have been substantially less. Maybe we would not refer to it as 9/11, maybe we would just call it "That second Tuesday in the fall early in the new millenium when only a thousand people were murdered.". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 How dare he enforce borders!!! That’s a racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 32 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: There were 19 terrorists on the planes on 9/11. Had there only been 6, perhaps the death toll and ensuing chaos would have been substantially less. Maybe we would not refer to it as 9/11, maybe we would just call it "That second Tuesday in the fall early in the new millenium when only a thousand people were murdered.". Had the 20th not been stopped at the border and denied entry, there would have been substantially more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 43 minutes ago, DC Tom said: NBC is straight-up lying. First of all, the idea that NBC thinks this is a good tweet proves the state in which lefties live. Only six. That were actually on a list. At the end of the day their crap article tells us really ZERO about how many terrorists are actually crossing the border but hey, in their little minds this somehow proves Trump wrong so NBC News is going to push this story with all their might. But as Gator says in the OP.............Liars gotta lie ICE Website - Fiscal Year 2018 Information: https://www.ice.gov/feature... Administrative Arrests: 158,581. 66.5% Convicted Criminals. Deportations: 256,085. 57% Convicted Criminals. Fiscal Year 2018 ICE Enforcement and Removal Operations Report: https://www.ice.gov/doclib/... ICE Statistics by Area (Spreadsheet you'll have to enlarge to read): https://www.ice.gov/sites/d... About 4,000 of these clowns were murderers. Lots are gang members and drug dealers. If Trump declares a national emergency over the border, it will be America’s [CHECKS NOTES] 32nd active national emergency . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, The_Dude said: How dare he enforce borders!!! That’s a racism. Scapegoating immigrants with lies is racist as hell. And attempt to divert funds away from other areas would constitute a power grab. It's unconstitutional and takes money away from proper national security areas for this political stunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Scapegoating immigrants with lies is racist as hell. And attempt to divert funds away from other areas would constitute a power grab. It's unconstitutional and takes money away from proper national security areas for this political stunt. Immigration is a very serious problem. I’m just happy he’s handling it. If youre upset about it send some mexicans some money or something. But use your money and not other peoples. Edited January 8, 2019 by The_Dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 42 minutes ago, The_Dude said: Immigration is a very serious problem. I’m just happy he’s handling it. If youre upset about it send some mexicans some money or something. But use your money and not other peoples. Ha ha ha, you use your money! Or Mexicos money as your boy Trump said he would. Mexicans are better than red necks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 here is your cheat sheet for tonight https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/08/your-fact-checking-cheat-sheet-trumps-immigration-address/?utm_term=.a9915985d0b8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Ha ha ha, you use your money! Or Mexicos money as your boy Trump said he would. Mexicans are better than red necks How, “Mexicans” are better than agrarian-Americans? Huh. I don’t remember learning about Mexicans storming Utah Beach. I don’t remember learning about Mexicans accomplishing anything for that matter. But, I’m sure you follow the Liberal spectrum....the further liberals get away from white, the more they like it. So I see your point. Why would my phone auto correct "How" to "Mao." Edited January 8, 2019 by The_Dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, The_Dude said: Mao, “Mexicans” are better than agrarian-Americans? Huh. I don’t remember learning about Mexicans storming Utah Beach. I don’t remember learning about Mexicans accomplishing anything for that matter. But, I’m sure you follow the Liberal spectrum....the further liberals get away from white, the more they like it. So I see your point. Mexicans didn't elect Donald Trump, nuff said 7 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: here is your cheat sheet for tonight https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/08/your-fact-checking-cheat-sheet-trumps-immigration-address/?utm_term=.a9915985d0b8 Love it! More proof the wall is stupid and nothing more than a political stunt Quote The wall in Israel is 99.9 percent effective. Only one-tenth (33 miles) of the Israeli barrier with Palestinian territories is an eight-meter (25-foot) concrete wall. The other 90 percent is a two-meter (six-foot) high electronic fence. As for 99.9 percent, these numbers are a fantasy. The New York Times in 2016 reported on a vast smuggling industry that easily evades the Israeli security fence and wall that divides Israeli and Palestinian areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: here is your cheat sheet for tonight https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/08/your-fact-checking-cheat-sheet-trumps-immigration-address/?utm_term=.a9915985d0b8 or more correctly stated........Here are your liberal talking points for tonight. The Post cherry picks their stats and gives the "accepted" opinion for them. I suggest that you listen to President Trump, and then listen to Nancy Pelosi and Charles Schumer..................and see who is looking out for America. and see who is looking out for government status quo. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, B-Man said: or more correctly stated........Here are your liberal talking points for tonight. The Post cherry picks their stats and gives the "accepted" opinion for them. I suggest that you listen to President Trump, and then listen to Nancy Pelosi and Charles Schumer..................and see who is looking out for America. and see who is looking out for government status quo. . Yup, I like how the post picked out the fact Trump said over 200 times Mexico would pay for it. Terrible. And the scapegoating by Trump? Immigrants are full of diseases! That's hateful, bigotry. America deserves better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, B-Man said: or more correctly stated........Here are your liberal talking points for tonight. The Post cherry picks their stats and gives the "accepted" opinion for them. I suggest that you listen to President Trump, and then listen to Nancy Pelosi and Charles Schumer..................and see who is looking out for America. and see who is looking out for government status quo. . But if Trump uses false numbers and false narratives..am I then able to say he does not care for the wall, just the win? Cause if it is truly a national emergency, no inflation or embellishments are needed correct? But even I don't think Trump is dumb enough to use wrong or misleading stats tonight..and I think the guy is pretty dumb if he does..will you agree maybe the dude ain't smart enough to be POTUS? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 26 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Mexicans didn't elect Donald Trump, nuff said I know, they all voted for Hillary. About 3 million of 'em. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: But if Trump uses false numbers and false narratives..am I then able to say he does not care for the wall, just the win? Cause if it is truly a national emergency, no inflation or embellishments are needed correct? But even I don't think Trump is dumb enough to use wrong or misleading stats tonight..and I think the guy is pretty dumb if he does..will you agree maybe the dude ain't smart enough to be POTUS? He is POTUS, regardless of everything else. The attempt (going on two years now) to de-legitimize him because he wasn't the establishment's pick should not be something anyone tries to further, regardless of their politics or opinion on the man. It sets a dangerous precedent that we, the people, don't deserve a say in choosing our elected leaders. That's the end game with all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: But if Trump uses false numbers and false narratives..am I then able to say he does not care for the wall, just the win? No. Because Trump does not know fantasy from reality. More than anything he's likely to use false numbers believing they're true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, DC Tom said: No. Because Trump does not know fantasy from reality. More than anything he's likely to use false numbers believing they're true. Reminds me of a colleague who, while making his point, confidently states the statistics to back it, whether or not they are the correct numbers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, TPS said: Reminds me of a colleague who, while making his point, confidently states the statistics to back it, whether or not they are the correct numbers.... 60% of the time, that works every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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