Tyree Jackson seeking transfer from UB

[YoloinOhio]

 

[PromoTheRobot]

His draft stock plummeted as the season went on. He was electrifying in the first 5 games. He was dreadful the last 4. The question is why? Did teams gameplan to exploit a weakness? Did losing Anthony Johnson expose his success as more AJ than TJ? Did Coach Lance Leipold get all D3 conservative with his two excellent freshman running backs? Or is Tyree just not that good? 

 

Too bad for UB. Not sure if Kyle Vantrese can step up and play at the same level. They still have offensive talent in Osborne, Mabry, Patterson and Marks.

[Buffalo716]

This doesn’t mean he is transferring 100%.

 

they said he was going to test his options and this is how he will find out . Returning to UB is still an option 

 

@PromoTheRobot

 

Vantrease May run the offense better. Tyree doesn’t always take what he is given 

 

The big plays may drop some but a consistent offense may be developed 

[Guest K-GunJimKelly12]

He is not a good quarterback.  He has a big arm and athletic ability and that is it.  He doesn't have great awareness, is inaccurate and is careless with the ball.  I think they could have been a much better team this year if they had a better passer.  I actually hope he does leave.  I think he holds the offense back.

Edited December 26, 2018 by K-GunJimKelly12

[zow2]

...And there ya go.  This news is not unexpected.  We've already discussed it was likely.  I don't think Vantrease is the guy but who knows?  What about that kid from West Seneca, he's supposed to be very good....and they have a true freshman from Ohio coming in to the program who looks solid.

[Buffalo716]

34 minutes ago, zow2 said:

...And there ya go.  This news is not unexpected.  We've already discussed it was likely.  I don't think Vantrease is the guy but who knows?  What about that kid from West Seneca, he's supposed to be very good....and they have a true freshman from Ohio coming in to the program who looks solid.

As of today Vantrease is much better than Myers. He was a very good get for Liepold

 

He had offers from every MAC school 

 

Myers is more a dual threat while Vantrease is a better passer

Edited December 26, 2018 by Buffalo716

[C.Biscuit97]

56 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said:

He is not a good quarterback.  He has a big arm and athletic ability and that is it.  He doesn't have great awareness, is inaccurate and is careless with the ball.  I think they could have been a much better team this year if they had a better passer.  I actually hope he does leave.  I think he holds the offense back.

Well, this is silly.  

 

This woild suck for UB and I believe it would hurt him in the long run.  No guarantees if he leaves.  

[Guest K-GunJimKelly12]

4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Well, this is silly.  

 

This woild suck for UB and I believe it would hurt him in the long run.  No guarantees if he leaves.  

We'll agree to disagree.  They had a ton of offensive weapons this season and he wasn't very good at keeping a consistent offense going.  He makes a lot of big plays but when needs to pass he has a lot of trouble.  When you look at UB's roster they have a ton of talent for their level.  Johnson is a 1st/2nd round NFL talent and I actually think Osborn might get drafted when he comes out.  Mabry was the best TE in the conference.  You could put a lot of QB's at that level in the situation as Jackson had and the team would have be about as successful.

[C.Biscuit97]

27 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said:

We'll agree to disagree.  They had a ton of offensive weapons this season and he wasn't very good at keeping a consistent offense going.  He makes a lot of big plays but when needs to pass he has a lot of trouble.  When you look at UB's roster they have a ton of talent for their level.  Johnson is a 1st/2nd round NFL talent and I actually think Osborn might get drafted when he comes out.  Mabry was the best TE in the conference.  You could put a lot of QB's at that level in the situation as Jackson had and the team would have be about as successful.

Or he helped raise those guys up. It’s not mutual exclusive.  He is the first qb I’ve ever seen at IB that legitimately could play in the nfl.  It’s kinda wrong to just dismiss that for guys who have proved nothing.

 

hopefully, he comes back because it would benefit him and the school.  UB has a great coach. 

[Ittakestime]

He was not good second half of season.  So many bone headed plays and didn't come up big when he needed to.

 

I may be in the minority, but I actually think this may be better off for UB.  He won't have Osborn or Johnson next year to bail him out.  This team could be dynamic with an RPO offense with their skill at RB.  I think Myers can be really good next year if they design the proper offense.

 

He would get eaten alive in a Big conference.  He took very little hits at UB, but when he did, he always seemed to act like he was hurt.

 

 

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, Ittakestime said:

He was not good second half of season.  So many bone headed plays and didn't come up big when he needed to.

 

I may be in the minority, but I actually think this may be better off for UB.  He won't have Osborn or Johnson next year to bail him out.  This team could be dynamic with an RPO offense with their skill at RB.  I think Myers can be really good next year if they design the proper offense.

 

He would get eaten alive in a Big conference.  He took very little hits at UB, but when he did, he always seemed to act like he was hurt.

 

 

Osborne is returning.

 

and chances are Vantrease beats out Myers next season

[Ittakestime]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Osborne is returning.

 

and chances are Vantrease beats out Myers next season

 

Is that confirmed with Osborn?  He could graduate and leave too.  He already was there 4 years.

 

If Vantrease plays, this team will be bottom of MAC again.

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, Ittakestime said:

 

Is that confirmed with Osborn?  He could graduate and leave too.  He already was there 4 years.

 

If Vantrease plays, this team will be bottom of MAC again.

Osborne can , but graduate transfers is really not that big of a thing... he will probably return 

 

as for Vantrease , that is your opinion... he had offers to every MAC school and can sling a football. Leipold thinks very highly of him and he throws a good ball

 

Myers is mobile but doenst throw as good as Vantrease yet

Edited December 26, 2018 by Buffalo716

[Ittakestime]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Osborne can , but graduate transfers is really not that big of a thing... he will probably return 

 

as for Vantrease , that is your opinion... he had offers to every MAC school and can sling a football. Leipold thinks very highly of him and he throws a good ball

 

Myers is mobile but doenst throw as good as Vantrease yet

 

Vantrease was so bad when he played in 2017, he would need MAJOR improvement for him to be a better passer than Myers.

[Buffalo716]

40 minutes ago, Ittakestime said:

 

Vantrease was so bad when he played in 2017, he would need MAJOR improvement for him to be a better passer than Myers.

Vantrease was a true freshman . Tyree Jackson could hardly throw as a RS Freshmen and improved a bit as a RS sophomore 

 

How can you say Myers is such a good thrower? He didn’t throw in D1 live 

 

I saw Myers in HS and he was a better runner than thrower who needed a few years.. if Jackson leaves it will be Vantrease by all accounts 

 

and i want Myers to be as successful as possible.. but he will need to leapfrog Vantrease 

Edited December 26, 2018 by Buffalo716

[zow2]

Whose to say some transfer QB or graduate transfer won’t be enticed by UB if Tyree leaves?

i think the QB position would be wide open and no one knows how Leipold thinks.

 Guys who have hung around P5 programs and barely played now have options.  It’s unlikely but Ya just never know what will happen if Tyree leaves.

[Ol Dirty B]

7 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Well, this is silly.  

 

This woild suck for UB and I believe it would hurt him in the long run.  No guarantees if he leaves.  

 

How could it hurt him? He's not getting drafted where he thought or where many UB fans thought he had potential of being drafted at.

 

I don't care what jersey you put him in. He hasn't even been good in the MAC. He should focus on his education.

[PetermansRedemption]

I watched all of the nationally televised UB games this season. I do not believe Tyree transferring will be that great of a detriment to the team. Tyree’s game was running the ball (with horrible ball security) and bombing it to an open Anthony Johnson or Osborne. He is no where near a top QB IMO. 

[Buffalo716]

2 hours ago, Bills2ref said:

I watched all of the nationally televised UB games this season. I do not believe Tyree transferring will be that great of a detriment to the team. Tyree’s game was running the ball (with horrible ball security) and bombing it to an open Anthony Johnson or Osborne. He is no where near a top QB IMO. 

Tyree honestly ran more last year as a RS sophomore 

 

He had more rushing yards last year and averaged more ypc. His problem was no decisiveness this year 

 

he would scramble and by time and instead of throwing or running he’d take a horrible sack and fumble... kind of like the last drive of bowl game 

[Formerly Allan in MD]

Any explanation of why he might want to leave?  Possibly concerned about the competition he'd have, or the loss of Johnson?

[Solomon Grundy]

On December 26, 2018 at 2:00 PM, K-GunJimKelly12 said:

He is not a good quarterback.  He has a big arm and athletic ability and that is it.  He doesn't have great awareness, is inaccurate and is careless with the ball.  I think they could have been a much better team this year if they had a better passer.  I actually hope he does leave.  I think he holds the offense back.

Sounds like another QB that plays on Sundays 

[Orlando Tim]

On 12/26/2018 at 2:00 PM, K-GunJimKelly12 said:

He is not a good quarterback.  He has a big arm and athletic ability and that is it.  He doesn't have great awareness, is inaccurate and is careless with the ball.  I think they could have been a much better team this year if they had a better passer.  I actually hope he does leave.  I think he holds the offense back.

I agree overall but i am not sure if UB will be better without him. He has so much physical ability i keep hoping his brain clicks. I am an eternal optimist

[PromoTheRobot]

2 hours ago, Formerly Allan in MD said:

Any explanation of why he might want to leave?  Possibly concerned about the competition he'd have, or the loss of Johnson?

 

I think the dad wants his kid to improve his draft stock. 

[Buffalo716]

4 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

I think the dad wants his kid to improve his draft stock. 

Playing in the MAC didn’t hurt Big Bens stock.

 

Tyree can make any decision he wants but at the end of the day HE needs to improve ... Whether at a P5 school or UB

 

Its silly to think he leaves And his Stock auto rises... when he was playing with superior talent at UB vs other MAC defenses

 

He May get a better line or WR Corp at a P5 school but the defenses will be a lot better as well

[PromoTheRobot]

7 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Playing in the MAC didn’t hurt Big Bens stock.

 

Tyree can make any decision he wants but at the end of the day HE needs to improve ... Whether at a P5 school or UB

 

Its silly to think he leaves And his Stock auto rises... when he was playing with superior talent at UB vs other MAC defenses

 

He May get a better line or WR Corp at a P5 school but the defenses will be a lot better as well

 

I, by chance, sat next to his dad at the MAC Championship in Detroit, where the Bulls blew a 19-point 3Q lead to NIU. I got the sense that Pappa doesn't think much of Leipold and his coaching staff, and that they are holding his kid back.

 

Now all parents think their little angels are the greatest, but he might have a point. The Bulls, after scoring on 5 of their first 6 possessions, throwing the ball all over the field, pulled their tails in between their legs and assumed their defense, who showed they couldn't stop anyone all season, would win the game for them. And we all saw how that turned out.

 

Now in the DG Bowl, we saw TJ make some simply awful boneheaded plays. So I think there is blame on both sides.

[zow2]

24 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

I, by chance, sat next to his dad at the MAC Championship in Detroit, where the Bulls blew a 19-point 3Q lead to NIU. I got the sense that Pappa doesn't think much of Leipold and his coaching staff, and that they are holding his kid back.

 

Now all parents think their little angels are the greatest, but he might have a point. The Bulls, after scoring on 5 of their first 6 possessions, throwing the ball all over the field, pulled their tails in between their legs and assumed their defense, who showed they couldn't stop anyone all season, would win the game for them. And we all saw how that turned out.

 

Now in the DG Bowl, we saw TJ make some simply awful boneheaded plays. So I think there is blame on both sides.

 

Well, if true that's just a dumb take by daddy-O.  As the season went on the Bulls O-line and running game were the best units on the field, not the QB. The coaches allowed Jackson to continue throwing with leads and all it did was lead to quick 3-and-outs with poor throws and decision making (INT's, fumbles).  The D crumbled late season as well.  Not sure why the DB's were so badly exposed.  

 

Anyway that same coach holding his kid back is also the reason the Bulls have been rebuilt into one of the better MAC programs.   Credit to Leipold because this team would be bottom of the MAC without his leadership and staff.   He's also the same coach who recruited two awesome freshman RB's and more athletic players across the board.  

[YoloinOhio]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

I, by chance, sat next to his dad at the MAC Championship in Detroit, where the Bulls blew a 19-point 3Q lead to NIU. I got the sense that Pappa doesn't think much of Leipold and his coaching staff, and that they are holding his kid back.

 

Now all parents think their little angels are the greatest, but he might have a point. The Bulls, after scoring on 5 of their first 6 possessions, throwing the ball all over the field, pulled their tails in between their legs and assumed their defense, who showed they couldn't stop anyone all season, would win the game for them. And we all saw how that turned out.

 

Now in the DG Bowl, we saw TJ make some simply awful boneheaded plays. So I think there is blame on both sides.

If I recall correctly, he committed to Quinn and not Liepold. He still decided to sign there but sometimes the relationship isn’t as strong when those things occur with coaching changes in the recruiting cycle. 

[Buffalo716]

3 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

I, by chance, sat next to his dad at the MAC Championship in Detroit, where the Bulls blew a 19-point 3Q lead to NIU. I got the sense that Pappa doesn't think much of Leipold and his coaching staff, and that they are holding his kid back.

 

Now all parents think their little angels are the greatest, but he might have a point. The Bulls, after scoring on 5 of their first 6 possessions, throwing the ball all over the field, pulled their tails in between their legs and assumed their defense, who showed they couldn't stop anyone all season, would win the game for them. And we all saw how that turned out.

 

Now in the DG Bowl, we saw TJ make some simply awful boneheaded plays. So I think there is blame on both sides.

I have seen plenty of boneheaded coaches and staffs in my lifetime... it’s easy to blame the coach 

 

Leipold is easily the best coach I have ever been around at UB.. he is destined for greatness , even if he has to leave UB for it

 

Tyree is not clutch rn and makes plenty of boneheaded plays... he also does not utilize AJ in the passing game enough

 

His Dad can think whatever he wants but Tyrees stock is plummeting, because Tyree. 

 

He only has any stock because Leipold 

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

If I recall correctly, he committed to Quinn and not Liepold. He still decided to sign there but sometimes the relationship isn’t as strong when those things occur with coaching changes in the recruiting cycle. 

He had time to decommit and did re consider his commitment 

 

He chose Leipold and UB

[PromoTheRobot]

 

[PromoTheRobot]

 

And take this tweet for what it's worth:

 

 

[Buffalo716]

Tyree would get lit up at Auburn ..

 

He isn’t Cam Newton.. the SEC West would eat him alive and spit him out

[zow2]

I look forward to watching a new QB get developed at UB and it will be fun to watch Tyree at a P5 team like Auburn or wherever.  Let's see what he can do.  These programs dying to get him should be a bit cautious.   He had some real talent around him at UB and could not raise em up, losing 3 of his last 4 games against better competition.   Can't wait to watch that Iron Bowl...  Tua vs. Tyree.  

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Over the last 10 games of the season (8 MAC games, Army & Troy) Tyree Jackson completed 52.3% of his passes, threw 13 TDs 9 INTs, and threw for under 200 yards in 5 out of 10 games.

Edited December 28, 2018 by zow2

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, zow2 said:

I look forward to watching a new QB get developed at UB and it will be fun to watch Tyree at a P5 team like Auburn or wherever.  Let's see what he can do.  These programs dying to get him should be a bit cautious.   He had some real talent around him at UB and could not raise em up, losing 3 of his last 4 games against better competition.   Can't wait to watch that Iron Bowl...  Tua vs. Tyree.  

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Over the last 10 games of the season (8 MAC games, Army & Troy) Tyree Jackson completed 52.3% of his passes, threw 13 TDs 9 INTs, and threw for under 200 yards in 5 out of 10 games.

 

I love UB unequivocally and have been there since Day1. Tyree has been good for UB and I’m glad he’s been here and wish him success 

 

but he really has struggled late in the year... he doesn’t need a P5 school to develop , HE needs to develop consistency 

 

and I don’t think the SEC West is The place to learn consistency 

[Ittakestime]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

And take this tweet for what it's worth:

 

 

 

Out of those schools above, he should go to Maryland.  Love their new coach and they have great RB.

 

 

[zow2]

So long KJ.  We will definitely miss this you and this years offense.  Anyone else leaving? The waterboy? 

 

 

[PromoTheRobot]

Ugh! Now UB's best receiver after Anthony Johnson is looking to leave. Why, KJ Osborne?

 

https://buffalonews.com/2018/12/28/kj-osborn-transfer-university-at-buffalo/

Edited December 29, 2018 by PromoTheRobot

[YoloinOhio]

Almost a 2019 #NFLDraft early declaree, ex-Buffalo QB Tyree Jackson delayed his decision one more year and entered the grad transfer market.

 

But which fit is best for his pro future and the team's 2019 success? @BenjaminSolak takes a dive:

https://thedraftnetwork.com/2018/12/29/5-ideal-transfer-destinations-for-tyree-jackson/

5 IDEAL TRANSFER DESTINATIONS FOR TYREE JACKSON

 

[Ittakestime]

On 12/26/2018 at 3:57 PM, Buffalo716 said:

Osborne is returning.

 

and chances are Vantrease beats out Myers next season

 

You told me Osborn was returning?

 

You want another little nugget, Myers is a favorite of this staff.  Towards end of year, he was getting more practice reps than Vantrease.  The staff loves his ability to run at his size and thinks it can be a game changer in the MAC with how Army tore teams apart this year.

[Buffalo716]

2 hours ago, Ittakestime said:

 

You told me Osborn was returning?

 

You want another little nugget, Myers is a favorite of this staff.  Towards end of year, he was getting more practice reps than Vantrease.  The staff loves his ability to run at his size and thinks it can be a game changer in the MAC with how Army tore teams apart this year.

 I was told that Osbrorne was returning, he was going to be the #1.. this is definitely odd 

 

and i I know they like Myers, but it’s not all about the running. Jackson can run and they pretty much stopped giving him designed runs... if Army was the eye opener, why not let  Tyree run more because it was his best weapon? He went from a runner last year to only running in the red zone and it hurt UB

 

Vantrease was still the #2 all year and Liepold went to him in relief first, so like I said barring some crazy circumstances he will open the spring with the 1s with the chance to start 

 

Myers or Dominic Johnson will have to beat him out. Myers may have the wheels but Vantrease throws a great deep ball and they will need some 

 

the staff loves everybody.. they just brought in a 3* pocket passer who by all accounts was their prize of the recruiting season And leipold was thrilled to get him. He will be in the mix sooner than later too... he wants a passer also

 

If Myers can throw at a high level , then yes I want him starting next year but he has to show it in spring 

 

*** Also Tyree and KJ can both return ***

 

its not guarenteed

 

 

[Ittakestime]

1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

 I was told that Osbrorne was returning, he was going to be the #1.. this is definitely odd 

 

and i I know they like Myers, but it’s not all about the running. Jackson can run and they pretty much stopped giving him designed runs... if Army was the eye opener, why not let  Tyree run more because it was his best weapon? He went from a runner last year to only running in the red zone and it hurt UB

 

Vantrease was still the #2 all year and Liepold went to him in relief first, so like I said barring some crazy circumstances he will open the spring with the 1s with the chance to start 

 

Myers or Dominic Johnson will have to beat him out. Myers may have the wheels but Vantrease throws a great deep ball and they will need some 

 

the staff loves everybody.. they just brought in a 3* pocket passer who by all accounts was their prize of the recruiting season And leipold was thrilled to get him. He will be in the mix sooner than later too... he wants a passer also

 

If Myers can throw at a high level , then yes I want him starting next year but he has to show it in spring 

 

*** Also Tyree and KJ can both return ***

 

its not guarenteed

 

 

 

Not sure if you even follow UB football with this response. 

 

Jackson stopped running because of his knee injury last year.  He didn't like running and only did it when necessary, that's why there was none to very little designed runs. Towards the end of year he became more confident in knee and that's where u did see more runs. 

 

Vantrease got the reps because Myers plan was to redshirt.