Deranged Rhino Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Chandemonium said: You reckon this is what the 4:00 announcement is/could be? Those are the rumblings, and it makes sense. Offer a deal on DACA - he gets to publicly attempt to compromise with the DNC putting the entire pressure on them. They'll say no, because they have to say no, and the optics will get even worse for Pelosi and Schumer. ... Then he'll (likely) declare the emergency next week after the offer is rejected in a "hey, I tried everything". Part of me is hopeful that the announcement at 4pm will be a bit... bigger but I'm not going to hold my breath quite yet. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Those are the rumblings, and it makes sense. Offer a deal on DACA - he gets to publicly attempt to compromise with the DNC putting the entire pressure on them. They'll say no, because they have to say no, and the optics will get even worse for Pelosi and Schumer. ... Then he'll (likely) declare the emergency next week after the offer is rejected in a "hey, I tried everything". Part of me is hopeful that the announcement at 4pm will be a bit... bigger but I'm not going to hold my breath quite yet. This is basically my take on it too. I doubt the dems will move enough (or at all) to keep him from declaring the emergency. Once he declares it he gets held up in court but the government has already been opened and the blame for no wall gets placed on the courts & dems. The key is how long it will take for the year old injunction (on DACA) to end up at the SCOTUS and for the expected injunctions coming out of his declaration of an emergency. Fun times ahead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 . Trump Puts Schumer and Pelosi in a Brilliant Vise Grip American Thinker, by Jim Davis Original Article The federal government shutdown has presented a unique opportunity for President Donald Trump to clear out the deadwood in the federal bureaucracy, saving U.S. taxpayers billions of dollars in salaries, perks, and rented office space for people who aren't doing anything productive. At the same time, Trump can get rid of dozens, possibly even hundreds of Deep State operatives in the government, handpicked by Barack Obama and Bill Clinton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 minute ago, B-Man said: . Trump Puts Schumer and Pelosi in a Brilliant Vise Grip American Thinker, by Jim Davis Original Article The federal government shutdown has presented a unique opportunity for President Donald Trump to clear out the deadwood in the federal bureaucracy, saving U.S. taxpayers billions of dollars in salaries, perks, and rented office space for people who aren't doing anything productive. At the same time, Trump can get rid of dozens, possibly even hundreds of Deep State operatives in the government, handpicked by Barack Obama and Bill Clinton so the deep State will be gone. Cool, you clowns can't cry its out to get your God Trump then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Those are the rumblings, and it makes sense. Offer a deal on DACA - he gets to publicly attempt to compromise with the DNC putting the entire pressure on them. They'll say no, because they have to say no, and the optics will get even worse for Pelosi and Schumer. If this were the trap Trump lays today, no one can ever question his political brilliance again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 24 minutes ago, Koko78 said: If this were the trap Trump lays today, no one can ever question his political brilliance again. Annnnnnd... Before they even hear the offer, they're saying they will reject it. This will be fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Annnnnnd... Before they even hear the offer, they're saying they will reject it. This will be fun. Trump cancels 4pm speech, saying "Well, I was going to offer to reopen the government and talk about the wall later, but since the House Democrats have already rejected it a priori..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Annnnnnd... Before they even hear the offer, they're saying they will reject it. This will be fun. I wouldn’t go off of the Drudge Report. But since all liberals think he’s the spawn of Voldemort and Hitler so that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 "President Trump plans to use remarks from the Diplomatic Reception Room on Saturday afternoon to propose a notable immigration compromise, according to sources familiar with the speech." "The offer is expected to include Trump’s $5.7 billion demand for wall money in exchange for the BRIDGE Act — which would extend protections for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) — and also legislation to extend the legal status of Temporary Protected Status (TPS) holders, according to a source with direct knowledge.... Advocates for the plan argue that by offering the new proposal, Trump is showing he’s willing to negotiate while Pelosi remains unmoved. But even some top Republicans are skeptical Trump's overture will be enough to break the logjam."Says Axios. Even if its not "enough to break the logjam," it's enough to allow him to say I offered a specific compromise and you didn't... unless and until they do make a specific counteroffer. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, B-Man said: "President Trump plans to use remarks from the Diplomatic Reception Room on Saturday afternoon to propose a notable immigration compromise, according to sources familiar with the speech." "The offer is expected to include Trump’s $5.7 billion demand for wall money in exchange for the BRIDGE Act — which would extend protections for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) — and also legislation to extend the legal status of Temporary Protected Status (TPS) holders, according to a source with direct knowledge.... Advocates for the plan argue that by offering the new proposal, Trump is showing he’s willing to negotiate while Pelosi remains unmoved. But even some top Republicans are skeptical Trump's overture will be enough to break the logjam."Says Axios. Even if its not "enough to break the logjam," it's enough to allow him to say I offered a specific compromise and you didn't... unless and until they do make a specific counteroffer. . Has he thought about asking Mexico for the check? I mean, it's easy to get the money from Mexico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 When you can't argue substance or facts, just emote. It works every time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, BigMcD said: Has he thought about asking Mexico for the check? I mean, it's easy to get the money from Mexico. Maybe we'll just make Canada pay tribute to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 We have done this once already today Ignore his childish replies. and if, by chance, he does offer something worth a response................fine. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, B-Man said: We have done this once already today Ignore his childish replies. and if, by chance, he does offer something worth a response........he got lucky. . FTFY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 34 minutes ago, B-Man said: "President Trump plans to use remarks from the Diplomatic Reception Room on Saturday afternoon to propose a notable immigration compromise, according to sources familiar with the speech." "The offer is expected to include Trump’s $5.7 billion demand for wall money in exchange for the BRIDGE Act — which would extend protections for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) — and also legislation to extend the legal status of Temporary Protected Status (TPS) holders, according to a source with direct knowledge.... Advocates for the plan argue that by offering the new proposal, Trump is showing he’s willing to negotiate while Pelosi remains unmoved. But even some top Republicans are skeptical Trump's overture will be enough to break the logjam."Says Axios. Even if its not "enough to break the logjam," it's enough to allow him to say I offered a specific compromise and you didn't... unless and until they do make a specific counteroffer. . The Democrats' response will be "We offered a specific compromise: you don't get a wall, and we get everything we want. You need to accept this." It's Pelosi's definition of "compromise." She's done it before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 (edited) hopefully one of these feeds work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LMKwsayAZE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q2x4CWgXEc Edited January 19, 2019 by Foxx 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Brown Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 I'm guessing he's not offering permanent citizenship for the DACA kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Just now, Doc Brown said: I'm guessing he's not offering permanent citizenship for the DACA kids. Three year extension for Congress to pass DACA reform. Which is better than another (illegal) EO dealing with it. (and TPS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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