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2 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

What makes you say that?

 

Has any enemy of Israel been able to defeat them . They know the U.S. will step in no matter who is President if necessary .

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2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Gee, what president interfered with Israeli elections in 2016?

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-admin-sent-taxpayer-money-oust-netanyahu/

 

The State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayers grants to an Israeli group that used the money to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last year’s Israeli parliamentary elections, a congressional investigation concluded Tuesday.

Some $350,000 was sent to OneVoice, ostensibly to support the group’s efforts to back Israeli-Palestinian peace settlement negotiations. But OneVoice used the money to build a voter database, train activists and hire a political consulting firm with ties to President Obama’s campaign — all of which set the stage for an anti-Netanyahu campaign, the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations said in a bipartisan staff report.

Liberals don't care; they even applaud this. Many on the left despise Israel AND Jews.

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3 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

AOC: U.S. Must Provide Lifelong Mental Healthcare Services To Migrant Children Because Of Trauma We Have Caused

 

 

AOC held a town hall event on immigration in Queens, NY on Saturday.

The young Congresswoman believes the U.S. government must make a “lifelong commitment” to provide mental healthcare services to migrant children. The reason? Because of the lifelong trauma we inflict upon them when we separate them from their parents at the border. AOC told the crowd:

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And this is the liberal mindset.  People have zero accountability in their actions.  Someone goes on a dangerous journey with their children.  Along the way something bad happens.  So now I'm somehow responsible?? 

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6 minutes ago, ALF said:

 

Has any enemy of Israel been able to defeat them . They know the U.S. will step in no matter who is President if necessary .

Did you read 3rdning's post at the end of the previous page?

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5 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Liberals don't care; they even applaud this. Many on the left despise Israel AND Jews.

Obama wanted someone who he thought he could convince to make a deal with Hamas and the PA. In other words, throw Israel under the bus for his own legacy. On the one hand, the Obama administration was the most opaque administration in memory but also the most transparent. (You could see right through them).

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2 hours ago, section122 said:

 

The republicans would have won in 08 with McCain if they didn't have Palin as his running mate.  As much as the DNC screwed the pooch in 16 the repubs did the same in 08.  They tried to capitalize on the womens vote and grab Hillary supporters by adding Palin.  They underestimated how dumb she was and I firmly believe she cost them the election.  Just like the DNC underestimated how much people disliked Hillary.  I'm a dem and wanted to vote McCain and still did even with Palin dragging him down.  Who better to lead us out of an unwinnable war than a decorated war veteran?

 

See what I did there?  I was objective about both parties.  Those Trump tweets were dumb.  You don't have to defend everything he does just because you are Republican.  He has done some good and he has done some bad.  These tweets were a bad look from him and it is okay to admit it.  I know it is politics but "go back to where you came from" to elected representatives let alone just regular people shouldn't be an acceptable way to talk to people.  It is just so embarrassing to watch our President get into twitter beefs with people.  Twitter beefs.  A 73 year old man.  Twitter beefs.  

 


There is so much wrong with this post it is difficult to know where to begin...

When "dumb" Sarah Palin took on the Republican machine in Alaska and won, people were shocked. When "dumb" Sarah Palin took on big oil in Alaska and won, people were shocked. And when John McCain (who was pretty loathed by the conservative Republican base)  asked her on people were shocked. So shocked, that it took the Obama campaign a whole 24 hours to get people up to Alaska to go through her garbage (seriously, her garbage) and compile a negative dossier to use against her. 

She gave McCain a nice bump in the polls after her red meat introduction speech.  The polls were not horrible (although who knows what the internals said) until the financial meltdown in September.  At the point, it was the Ds election. 

I've always felt horrible for her and her family that she accepted the nomination only to be dragged down by that louse McCain who wouldn't defend her aginst his own campaign staff or the MSM.  And, when the Ds started filing bogus lawsuit after bogus lawsuit against her in an effort to lawfare her into bankruptcy (which thank goodness Alaska changed the law afterward), I really felt terrible for the whole family.

Yes, I am still a Sarah Palin fan-girl. 🙂 It is that ***** McCain I couldn't stand.

 @Deranged Rhino gave you a great little education in the whys and hows of the tweets. 
 

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14 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Gee, what president interfered with Israeli elections in 2016?

 

 

Maybe he'd understand your question more easily if you'd phrased it what American president colluded with an opposition party to overthrow a democratically elected prime minister?

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1 hour ago, section122 said:

I think it only serves to increase divisiveness. 

 

Do an honest assessment of 2017-2018 on who is more divisive: Trump or the media. 

 

After months of making fun of Trump during the campaign, warning viewers "he might not accept the results of the election" and how divisive/evil that is -- what happened immediately upon Trump's victory? The same media/DNC&GOP Establishment pundits said the election was illegitimate. They used Russian collusion to make the case that not only did Trump cheat, but he did so to serve an honest to god dictator who wants to destroy this country. 

 

... That's how the coverage began on Trump's presidency. Not just on CNN or MSNBC - but on CBS, ABC, NBC, NYT, WaPo, LA Times et al. Because it wasn't just the left leaning media who was against Trump's victory, it was the establishment which crosses both sides of the aisle


Since then, we've seen the media do everything in its power to divide the country while trying to claim Trump was the one doing the dividing. Reality says it's just not true: 

 

* We know now Trump/Russia was fake. This is beyond dispute now, and in fact there's more evidence to say the real collusion happened between Russia and the Clinton campaign.

* We know now that there was a backdoor coup attempted by the DOJ, CIA, FBI, and Obama administration (again that's now fact, not speculation). 

* We know now that Trump has handled Putin more effectively and efficiently than the past three presidents combined - dispelling the belief he's compromised.

 

So after two plus years of being lied to, made to think that Trump is wearing a Klan hood in the Oval Office while he does Vlad's bidding and secretly worships Hitler's ghost, we are expected to believe it's Trump who is the divisive one?

 

It just doesn't hold up to honest scrutiny. 

 

What we're living through right now is an era of mass projection by the media and the left as they continue to wage a disinformation war on its own populace. Not because Trump is a threat to the people of the world or the country, but because he's a threat to them. The establishment in both DC and the media hubs in NYC/LA. That's what is at the root of "the resistance". It's not a righteous fight against Nazism, Racism, Homophobia, Xenophobia -- it's a fight for the establishment and its sacred cows. The same establishment that lied us into 19 years of endless war. The same establishment that's stripped back our civil liberties while expanding the surveillance state. The same establishment that profits from human trafficking, drug trafficking, and mass incarceration. The same establishment which poisoned our air, food, and water for decades while taking kickbacks designed to make them ignore the plight of everyday Americans.

 

That's who the "resistance" is fighting for. It's who they've always been fighting for -- whether they realize it or not. Because the people of the country decided they didn't want the establishment candidate, the media decided that the entire election was illegitimate. And if you dared to disagree with that assessment in 2017-2018 you were called, by the same media and DNC/GOP talking heads: Putin supporters, Nazis, or racists. 

 

So, when people see Trump tweeting back and standing up for himself, they see a president doing what they can't: fighting back against the very real projection and divisiveness pushed by the media and DNC/GOP establishment.

 

We're through the looking glass. 

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16 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Liberals don't care; they even applaud this. Many on the left despise Israel AND Jews.

 

Why didn't Israel's enemies attack them while Obama was President ?  Has any administration cut off foreign aid and weapon sales to Israel ?

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Just now, ALF said:

Why didn't Israel's enemies attack them while Obama was President ?  Has any administration cut off foreign aid and weapon sales to Israel ?

 

They did. 

 

And then Obama helped their cause by revealing Stuxnet -- weakening the US and Israel's ability to contain Iran. 

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1 minute ago, ALF said:

 

Why didn't Israel's enemies attack them while Obama was President ?  Has any administration cut off foreign aid and weapon sales to Israel ?

Why do you think the situation you describe exists?

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Just now, ALF said:

 

That did not defeat Israel.

 

 

7 minutes ago, ALF said:

 

Why didn't Israel's enemies attack them while Obama was President ?  Has any administration cut off foreign aid and weapon sales to Israel ?

 
 
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    take aggressive action against (a place or enemy forces) with weapons or armed force, typically in a battle or war.
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1 minute ago, ALF said:

That did not defeat Israel.

 

I think the point was Israel was attacked under Obama, as it has been under Trump (and pretty much every President). They're surrounded by enemies who do not believe in their right to exist, let alone be a country. That's not hyperbole. 

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3 minutes ago, ALF said:

 

That did not defeat Israel.

 

Just stop.  

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2 hours ago, section122 said:

 

The republicans would have won in 08 with McCain if they didn't have Palin as his running mate.  As much as the DNC screwed the pooch in 16 the repubs did the same in 08.  They tried to capitalize on the womens vote and grab Hillary supporters by adding Palin.  They underestimated how dumb she was and I firmly believe she cost them the election.  Just like the DNC underestimated how much people disliked Hillary.  I'm a dem and wanted to vote McCain and still did even with Palin dragging him down.  Who better to lead us out of an unwinnable war than a decorated war veteran?

 

See what I did there?  I was objective about both parties.  Those Trump tweets were dumb.  You don't have to defend everything he does just because you are Republican.  He has done some good and he has done some bad.  These tweets were a bad look from him and it is okay to admit it.  I know it is politics but "go back to where you came from" to elected representatives let alone just regular people shouldn't be an acceptable way to talk to people.  It is just so embarrassing to watch our President get into twitter beefs with people.  Twitter beefs.  A 73 year old man.  Twitter beefs.  

 

No.  You represented the wishful Republican excuse for losing that election.  The dynamics in '08 were different than the dynamics in '16.  Wall Street was in meltdown, the Iraq War was starting to become clear to Americans it was a mistake, and the incumbent Republican president was incredibly unpopular.  Democrats didn't have any of those problems entering the 2016 election.  Hillary just ran a terrible campaign and her lack of likability along with the lack of enthusiasm she generated cost her what should've been a slam dunk win against Trump.

 

Palin is the only reason they didn't have 15 million less votes than the Obama campaign as opposed to 10 million.  She helped energize the Republican base as McCain had a serious lack of enthusiasm.  Lieberman couldn't inspire a fat kid to run after the ice cream truck.  Not to mention, Plus, Obama was the best Democratic campaigner and public speaker since Kennedy.

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26 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Just stop.  

 

ok

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4 minutes ago, ALF said:

 

ok

 

Just saving you from yourself.  😉

18 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

  Lieberman couldn't inspire a fat kid to run after the ice cream truck.  

 

LOL!!

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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Yes, I am still a Sarah Palin fan-girl. 🙂 It is that ***** McCain I couldn't stand.

 

Funny how everyone forgets how horribly the media treated Sarah Palin. The embarrassing leftist dumpster diving and reviews of her public emails was simply disgusting.

 

But make one comment about a former bartender too stupid to peel a potato and speak at the same time, and she's on the cover of Time.

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46 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

No.  You represented the wishful Republican excuse for losing that election.  The dynamics in '08 were different than the dynamics in '16.  Wall Street was in meltdown, the Iraq War was starting to become clear to Americans it was a mistake, and the incumbent Republican president was incredibly unpopular.  Democrats didn't have any of those problems entering the 2016 election.  Hillary just ran a terrible campaign and her lack of likability along with the lack of enthusiasm she generated cost her what should've been a slam dunk win against Trump.

 

Palin is the only reason they didn't have 15 million less votes than the Obama campaign as opposed to 10 million.  She helped energize the Republican base as McCain had a serious lack of enthusiasm.  Lieberman couldn't inspire a fat kid to run after the ice cream truck.  Not to mention, Plus, Obama was the best Democratic campaigner and public speaker since Kennedy.

No, at that time the surge had settled things down and things were relatively quiet. It was a few years prior to that everyone was up in arms due to the lack of new WMD's found in Iraq, and the poor planning for after the military victory.

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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


There is so much wrong with this post it is difficult to know where to begin...

When "dumb" Sarah Palin took on the Republican machine in Alaska and won, people were shocked. When "dumb" Sarah Palin took on big oil in Alaska and won, people were shocked. And when John McCain (who was pretty loathed by the conservative Republican base)  asked her on people were shocked. So shocked, that it took the Obama campaign a whole 24 hours to get people up to Alaska to go through her garbage (seriously, her garbage) and compile a negative dossier to use against her. 

She gave McCain a nice bump in the polls after her red meat introduction speech.  The polls were not horrible (although who knows what the internals said) until the financial meltdown in September.  At the point, it was the Ds election. 

I've always felt horrible for her and her family that she accepted the nomination only to be dragged down by that louse McCain who wouldn't defend her aginst his own campaign staff or the MSM.  And, when the Ds started filing bogus lawsuit after bogus lawsuit against her in an effort to lawfare her into bankruptcy (which thank goodness Alaska changed the law afterward), I really felt terrible for the whole family.

Yes, I am still a Sarah Palin fan-girl. 🙂 It is that ***** McCain I couldn't stand.

 @Deranged Rhino gave you a great little education in the whys and hows of the tweets. 
 

 

You quotes 2 rasmussen polls unfortunately I can't read them as you have to be a member.  Here is some info I found on Rasmussen polls though from their wiki:  After the 2010 midterm elections, Silver concluded that Rasmussen's polls were the least accurate of the major pollsters in 2010, having an average error of 5.8 points and a pro-Republican bias of 3.9 points according to Silver's model.[69] FiveThirtyEight currently rates Rasmussen Reports with a C+ grade and notes a simple average error of 5.3 percent across 657 polls analyzed.[81]

 

Most candidates receive a bump after naming their vp candidate.  (An average of 5 points) and Palin was viewed very favorably when she was first named: 

 

John McCain had gained huge support among white women voters since the announcement;[14] he had not only surpassed the Democratic Party candidate Senator Barack Obama in white women voters, but also amassed a lead of five percentage points in the Gallup polls. John Zogby found that the effects of Palin's selection were helping the McCain ticket since "She has high favorability numbers, and has unified the Republican Party."

 

However she had limited media access and bombed an interview with Katie Couric.  

 

A growing number of Republicans are expressing concern about Sarah Palin’s uneven — and sometimes downright awkward — performances in her limited media appearances. 

Conservative columnists Kathleen Parker, a former Palin supporter, says the vice presidential nominee should step aside. Kathryn Jean Lopez, writing on the conservative National Review, says “that’s not a crazy suggestion” and that “something’s gotta change.” 

Tony Fabrizio, a GOP strategist, says Palin’s recent CBS appearance isn’t disqualifying but is certainly alarming. “You can’t continue to have interviews like that and not take on water.” 

“I have not been blown away by the interviews from her, but at the same time I haven’t come away from them thinking she doesn’t know s—t,” said Chris Lacivita, a GOP strategist. “But she ain’t Dick Cheney, nor Joe Biden and definitely not Hillary Clinton.” 

 

I will agree (concede perhaps?) that the financial meltdown played a huge part as well as overall republican fatigue from Bush.  Palin to me though was a clear grab at the female vote and she wasn't ready to be a vp candidate.  (again I voted McCain because I felt Obama wasn't prepared to be president).  

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5 minutes ago, section122 said:

 

You quotes 2 rasmussen polls unfortunately I can't read them as you have to be a member.  Here is some info I found on Rasmussen polls though from their wiki:  After the 2010 midterm elections, Silver concluded that Rasmussen's polls were the least accurate of the major pollsters in 2010, having an average error of 5.8 points and a pro-Republican bias of 3.9 points according to Silver's model.[69] FiveThirtyEight currently rates Rasmussen Reports with a C+ grade and notes a simple average error of 5.3 percent across 657 polls analyzed.[81]

 

So funny. Forget the message. Kill the messenger. By citing Silver of all people.

 

Next up...we discredit the popularity of Pizza In A Cup in our exclusive interview with the owner of Cup O' Pizza!  :lol:

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4 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

AOC: U.S. Must Provide Lifelong Mental Healthcare Services To Migrant Children Because Of Trauma We Have Caused

 

 

AOC held a town hall event on immigration in Queens, NY on Saturday.

The young Congresswoman believes the U.S. government must make a “lifelong commitment” to provide mental healthcare services to migrant children. The reason? Because of the lifelong trauma we inflict upon them when we separate them from their parents at the border. AOC told the crowd:

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am i reading something wrong? Where in the world does she say that ? I am just reading the link provided..I see not one mention of lifelong commitment to menatl health. I may be wrong..but can you point out where it is? 

4 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

Maybe they like President Trump because he would rather not have babies in their 9th month aborted and celebrate a "victory" like this by lighting up the Empire State Building in pink with taxpayer dollars.

If you support things like this and attacking Israel you should be against our President.

If not, point me to a democrat running in the primary who is on the conservative side of these two issues.

I'll wait.....;)

Absolutely disgusting, evil, and insane.

Who cares if the Democrats are on  he conservative side..that is  freaking contradiction in terms no? New flash, its a democracy, usually one side is liberal,t he other conservative.

 

And in terms on "attacking Isreal" show me one stinking instance of AOC saying anything about attacking Israel? I will ask you the same question I asked BMan..where in that link does it say she wants to provide mental health care for life? Did oyu read the article..or just buzz a headline from a hard right publication and take it as gospel?

 

 

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