3rdand12 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Just now, Binghamton Beast said: The only issue I really have is how bad they bumbled the QB position. For one, you should at least have an average set of weapons if you plan on throwing a rookie into the mix. Two, the trading of AJ McCarron was not worth the compensation brought back. I’ll even give a pass on Peterman. Some people just choke when the bright lights are on. A practice All-Pro and a real game dud. They need to get things right next year on the offensive side of the ball. No excuses. pretty large Bumble though.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, mjt328 said: The majority of Dead Cap money came from Marcel Dareus (traded), Eric Wood (retired), Cordy Glenn (traded) and Tyrod Taylor (traded). Those four players ALONE account for literally 70% of the Dead Cap. Throw in Aaron Williams, Vontae Davis and Ritchie Incognito (also retired), you can bump that number to 82% of the Dead Cap. - There is nothing they could have done about the retirements. - The Glenn and Taylor trades were significant in our moves to get Josh Allen and Tremaine Edmunds. - They preferred taking a one-year hit for Dareus, rather than letting him be a salary cap drain for the next 4 years. Good luck explaining this after a loss . They were handed a team in cap trouble with nothing to build on for the future. They pulled the band-aid off quick which was the right move, regardless of how much the fans whine. Blowout wins and losses are never as good or bad as they seem. This was a 5-win team in April and will likely be a 5-win team at the end of December. Nothing has changed. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, SDS said: Right now, because I believe these guys are professionals and not potatoes, I think it is clear that they focused on the defense and the quarterback this season and will address the massive offensive needs in the future. I don’t think we have seen any plan on that side of the ball other than to bring in temporary placeholders, other than Allen. I think we see the same thing, but take different things away from it. I could very well be wrong and they have a plan. I just think you have to do something, and I already see the excuse being laid out where you can't rebuild an Oline, WR corps, TE's, RB in one off season and it will take time. I understand they lost out on John Brown, but what else did they even attempt? So when they trot out you can't build the Rome in a day BS I'm going to think back to this off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 20 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Yeah that too but you know the weather in Buffalo is really the reason why need running game and Defense. Nevermind what they have done in NE for over a decade lol? hence, the need for QB's with big hands! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Just now, swnybillsfan said: hence, the need for QB's with big hands! Or the 1941 offensive tactics they are utilizing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 53 minutes ago, Steptide said: I post something similar every week after these losses. This season was never gonna be good. Last year was very fun making the playoffs, but it was also very flukey (the fumble by Matt Ryan against Atlanta, the Colts game, the Dalton pass etc) While I don't agree with every decision McBean have made since they were hired, they've also been a bit handcuffed by the dead cap money. I'll say it again, if we're sitting here a year from now in the same boat, then yes, fire McDermott, but this season was truly a "hit the reset button' year. McDermott and beane knew this, hence beane not wanting to give up a single draft pick in 19 to move up in the draft in 18. Don't fool yourselves, McDermott absolutely knew how bad we'd be this year. That doesn't mean they're not trying to win though. We have 9 games left and I expect alot more of what we've seen so far. Hopefully we can pull out a few wins and have a few good weeks, but don't hold.your breath You. Cannot. Blame. The. Dead. Money. When. They. Created. The. Dead. Money. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: pretty large Bumble though.. Agreed. But I will give them a chance to correct that. I’m still in their corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: You. Cannot. Blame. The. Dead. Money. When. They. Created. The. Dead. Money. You can. The Process says you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: I think we see the same thing, but take different things away from it. I could very well be wrong and they have a plan. I just think you have to do something, and I already see the excuse being laid out where you can't rebuild an Oline, WR corps, TE's, RB in one off season and it will take time. I understand they lost out on John Brown, but what else did they even attempt? So when they trot out you can't build the Rome in a day BS I'm going to think back to this off season. That may be somewhat true but there is no way that excuse works without serious improvement from this year even if they haven't completely fixed things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 21 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said: I understand that. I tried to do it in the past as well. Slowly but surely though I grown to believe this coach is very disingenuous when he speaks publicly. It’s insulting to us fans. i don't know as if he is disingenuous, but i firmly believe he is big on discression. i also think that he would sacrifice himself before he throws one of his own under the bus. he knows the score, i just don't know how bad he thinks it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: You can. The Process says you can. No. McBeane made the decision to make the mantra "Win now and win in the future." They are failing 50% of their stated goal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 I wonder if all the apologists would still be defending McD and Beane if..... Andy Dalton throws incomplete in Baltimore? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 15 minutes ago, nucci said: Every team has draft picks...just because we have a couple more than some teams doesn't give us a huge advantage....all teams make moves in the off-season to clear cap space to sign players they want. Why does everyone think the Bills have a huge advantage over other teams? This team is so bad it does not get fixed in one off-season Because they have slightly more picks than the other teams, but mostly, the most cap space by far - AT LAST! So they can hire good FA. As it stands now, the Bills roster is the least paid one in the NFL because of all the dead cap space. So IF, and that's the big IF, they make some good decisions, they are set up favorably for improvement in the league. It doesn't mean it will happen but yes they have the best odds league-wise. Like most GMs and brass, they will make blunders, some bad decisions, overpay a few players, but odds are they should also make some amazing decisions. Now their hands are tied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Or the 1941 offensive tactics they are utilizing absolutely! to hell with the forward pass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: You can. The Process says you can. I don't even know what The Process is anymore. Is it building a consistent championship contender with appropriate talent & scheme, or bumbling around scoring 3 points with some old timer you picked up from Cabo? Seriously. Edited October 21, 2018 by TheElectricCompany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Just now, Warcodered said: That may be somewhat true but there is no way that excuse works without serious improvement from this year even if they haven't completely fixed things. I hope you're right. First, that there is serious improvement. And secondly, that I'm wrong about that excuse being accepted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JoPar_v2 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 1 minute ago, swnybillsfan said: i don't know as if he is disingenuous, but i firmly believe he is big on discression. i also think that he would sacrifice himself before he throws one of his own under the bus. he knows the score, i just don't know how bad he thinks it is. Yes that may well be it. Problem is there’s a fine line with today’s media and fan interaction between being buttoned up and sounding clueless and/or, like I said earlier, disingenuous. I can’t say McDermott has walked that line correctly so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Steptide said: I post something similar every week after these losses. This season was never gonna be good. Last year was very fun making the playoffs, but it was also very flukey (the fumble by Matt Ryan against Atlanta, the Colts game, the Dalton pass etc) While I don't agree with every decision McBean have made since they were hired, they've also been a bit handcuffed by the dead cap money. I'll say it again, if we're sitting here a year from now in the same boat, then yes, fire McDermott, but this season was truly a "hit the reset button' year. McDermott and beane knew this, hence beane not wanting to give up a single draft pick in 19 to move up in the draft in 18. Don't fool yourselves, McDermott absolutely knew how bad we'd be this year. That doesn't mean they're not trying to win though. We have 9 games left and I expect alot more of what we've seen so far. Hopefully we can pull out a few wins and have a few good weeks, but don't hold.your breath This franchise in general is also paying for the horrible drafts of 2015 and 2016. This year was just not supposed to be a good year for them. They have a very talented group of young players from the last two drafts who aren't ready to take the team over, their veterans are getting very old, and they lost the heart and soul of their offensive line. There's nothing in between because of those poor drafts. IMO this is not a GM or HC issue. It's just a season, with a roster in transition, that this franchise and it's fans unfortunately have to muddle through in the hopes that the young players (Josh Allen especially), the 2019 draftees and the new FA's prove that the process is indeed working with a 2019 season of a young team ready for a decade long run at playoff and Super Bowl contenders. I have faith that the 2019 season will show that the process is working. Edited October 21, 2018 by 1billsfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Nonsense. They created most of the dead cap by choice. 80% of it is on McBeane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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