Big Gun Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 7:17 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: He is. Don't think. Know. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Do us all a favor and start ignoring 26CB. This massive crusade you have against him is so annoying. Do you have anything to say about Allen or did you just want to attack my post? The #’s are very close between all 4. % comp rating etc. Also. You can use the ignore function yourself Edited October 20, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 7:17 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: He is. Don't think. Know. I don't know. Rosen looked really bad on Thursday. Got his OC fired already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Just now, vincec said: I don't know. Rosen looked really bad on Thursday. Got his OC fired already. His OC got himself fired for the 3rd time in two years by a 3rd team, but yeah that's Rosen's fault. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: His OC got himself fired for the 3rd time in two years by a 3rd team, but yeah that's Rosen's fault. ? Sure. Rosen has nothing to do with their offense bombing. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Just now, vincec said: Sure. Rosen has nothing to do with their offense bombing. ? It was mostly the OL, but yes Rosen had a terrible game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 4 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Do you have anything to say about Allen or did you just want to attack my post? The #’s are very close between all 4. % comp rating etc. Also. You can use the ignore function yourself I've said a number of things about Allen, actually... including in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Process Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 7:16 AM, joesixpack said: I don't think he's behind Rosen, for sure. This list is sorted by comp. % as of October 21st. One of many stats I know.....this is one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Darnold had another sensational outing against Minnesota today. 17/42, 1 TD, 3 INTs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Darnold had another sensational outing against Minnesota today. 17/42, 1 TD, 3 INTs Plus 3 fumbles, 2 recovered by the Vikings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Darnold struggled for sure, but that comes to be expected being a rookie. At least our OC is letting him sling it downfield though. I’m excited about the future of the kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Just now, Bleedingreennc said: Darnold struggled for sure, but that comes to be expected being a rookie. At least our OC is letting him sling it downfield though. I’m excited about the future of the kid. Rookies gonna rookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 5:12 PM, LABILLBACKER said: Yes he is. His flaws are obvious. And the numbers don't lie. Qb Rating Darnold. 83.7 Rosen. 75.5 Mayfield 72.8 Allen. 61.8 ....Darnold's wr unit are not much different than ours. Number can lie with the best of them. Consider the rankings of the defenses each of the rookie QB's have gone against. Allen has faced the toughest D's by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Just now, thebandit27 said: Rookies gonna rookie Yup. Allen needs a new OC and he will be fine, he has improved even with the scared play calling from the coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB@Shooter Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Plus 3 fumbles, 2 recovered by the Vikings And how did Allen play against the Vikings defense? At least we can compare another rookie to Allen going head to head against the same team. Allen took this one easily. Especially when so many are saying Allen is so far behind the other rookies. Laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Just now, Bleedingreennc said: Yup. Allen needs a new OC and he will be fine, he has improved even with the scared play calling from the coaching staff. He needs much more than just an OC unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedingreennc Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said: Number can lie with the best of them. Consider the rankings of the defenses each of the rookie QB's have gone against. Allen has faced the toughest D's by far. I agree to a degree, play calling also plays a big part. My order would be this of the rookies to this point: Mayfield Darnold Allen Rosen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, BB@Shooter said: And how did Allen play against the Vikings defense? At least we can compare another rookie to Allen going head to head against the same team. Allen took this one easily. Especially when so many are saying Allen is so far behind the other rookies. Laughable. To take your point a step further here's how the 3 QB's compare playing a common opponent within a months time: Allen 15 - 22 - 196 - 1 TD - 0 INT; notes = Allen had 2 rushing TD's & Bills won game 27 - 6 Rosen 21 - 31 - 240 - 0 TD - 1 INT; notes = Cards lost game 27 - 17 Darnold 17 - 42 - 206 - 1 TD - 3 INT; note = Darnold lost 2 fumbles & Jets lost game 37 - 17 Allen & Rosen played at Minnesota while Darnold was at home. Now to be clear this is a very limited data set BUT it's the only pretty clean comparison we have between the 3 QB's versus a common opponent within a pretty tight time window. My point is that so far there is no cumulative evidence that Rosen & Darnold are out performing Allen. All you can say is that all 3 have struggled and each has shown flashes of brilliance. And given that Allen was supposed to be way behind the other 2 you could argue that he's exceeding expectations. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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26CornerBlitz Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 10-23: Chris Trapasso with Bulldog & Sal (20:28) Good Josh Allen Discussion with Chris Trapasso from CBS Sports and TBN. Even though Bills rookie quarterback Josh Allen is week to week with an elbow injury, there is still plenty to take from Allen's time with the starters before his injury. Chris Trapasso os CBS Sports joined Bulldog and Sal to talk more on the 7th overall pick and looked into how well Allen has played in his 5 starts, as well as looking into the other QBs in the 2018 class and looking toward some of the other elite prospects for the 2019 NFL Draft. On Josh Allen's first 5 starts in the NFL: "I think he was playing like your typical or average rookie quarterback who does have the talent and can see why he was picked in the first round. I think the game, the speed of defenses, whether he was playing good defenses or bad defenses, he wasn't really acclimated to that yet. And there were times where there were some open receivers and open first reads that he wasn't pulling the trigger on. Then there were times in small little flashes that he was doing that." On the Bills QB situation pressing Josh Allen into action in Week Two of the season: "I think that quarterbacks do learn from playing but at the same time, I think because the Bills don't have this brick wall offensive line, I think it was very risky." "I think this is pretty obvious, but it seems that the Bills probably should have had Derek Anderson on the roster either to start training camp... or at least after they traded A.J. McCarron." On the fellow 2018 QB class: "Baker Mayfield, the last two weeks hasn't played as well as he did when he came off the bench for Tyrod Taylor against the Jets... But he looks like the most ready quarterback of the class." "Sam Darnold, the last couple of weeks, has played a little bit better but I think you kind of see what you saw at USC: he can make some really ridiculous moves too, but he turns the ball over, there are some throws that are late because of his elongated delivery." "Josh Rosen is in a very similar situation to Josh Allen. Not the best offensive line... he's certainly under pressure a lot but there are some of those wild throws, he hasn't been able to get comfotable." On the 2019 WR class: "This receiver class, to me, is the most talented since that famous 2014 WR class... and a lot of them are seemingly what the Bills want, or at least what Brandon Beane had in Carolina with Kelvin Benjamin and Devin Funchess. They're bigger receivers that can win in the red zone and win on those contested catch situations." "There's 3 or 4 guys that I think are not only first rounders, but are good players that can come in right away and be good." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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