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2 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:


Do you have any idea how stupid you look making this charge?  Especially in place of a logically formed argument?

 

Good grief.

 

He doesn't, because he knows he can't argue against systemic racism while also propping up a man who spent 40 years writing that "systemic racism" into our laws. 

 

So, rather than try to square that contradiction, he must distort what is being argued so he can try to scramble to the moral high ground. 

 

He's just really bad at that kind of intellectual dishonesty. Which is a positive for ol' Trans. 

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18 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

You're dodging the issue. Because you know you can't argue against it. The only hope you have is to insert race into the equation and argue against something I never said. 

 

That's why you're losing, @transplantbillsfan

 

 

I'm legitimately disturbed you can't see the sheer stupidity (or arrogance... or narcissism...) in the very idea of separating "systemic racism" from race.

 

The fact that you're accusing me of bringing race into a discussion where you initially brought up systemic racism is head-scratching and laughable.

 

But go ahead and keep calling all those black people who are going to vote for Biden over Trump by an EXTREMELY wide margin in the Fall stupid and dishonest. It's a really good look for you.

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25 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

I'm legitimately disturbed you can't see the sheer stupidity (or arrogance... or narcissism...) in the very idea of separating "systemic racism" from race.

 


I’m not surprised you’re disturbed by the strawman you created. That’s not an argument I’ve made.

 

26 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

The fact that you're accusing me of bringing race into a discussion where you initially brought up systemic racism is head-scratching and laughable.

 


You did bring it into the discussion. My statement condemned anyone, regardless of race, who supports Biden while decrying “systemic racism”. The argument was not made about any one race being stupid — but about the stupidity inherent in supporting a man who did more to codify system racism in our legal system while also claiming to be against that agenda. 
 

You can’t square those two positions. You know you can’t, hence your rush to insert words into my argument I never said. 
 

That’s why you’re embarrassing yourself. 
 

29 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

But go ahead and keep calling all those black people who are going to vote for Biden over Trump by an EXTREMELY wide margin in the Fall stupid and dishonest. It's a really good look for you.


There you go again, making it about something I never argued. Anyone, regardless of their race, who supports Biden while claiming to be against system racism is either deeply stupid or deeply dishonest. 
 

It’s not difficult. 
 

But I get it. You’re stuck now. You’re exposed as a hypocrite. And all you have left to play is accusing someone of being a “racist”. 
 

Which only shows you still don’t get why Trump won, and why he’s going to win again. 

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_ V _ A _ G _ I _ N _ A  of Tara Reade raped 1993 by Senator BidenS ....the fake news factor is not mentioned nor the low percentage turn out of voters alleged to prove a landslide for BidenS over TrumpOLINI AND ALL OTHER CANDIDATES.... JO JORGENSEN is from Clemson S Carolina and fake news won't report basic facts in the past year of campaigning by Libertarian Green and Socialist candidates....if BidenS & TrumpOLINI are the only 2 fake news reports millions of voters will stay home refusing to choose between 2 racist rapist war criminals bankrupting USA since 1982

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This is no longer laughable.
 
Joe Biden’s mental decline sadly evident twice yesterday

 

by Thomas Lifson

 

Original Article

 

How will Joe Bide be able to handle presidential debates? Or campaigning beyond his basement? I almost hate to point this out because I do have compassion for anyone facing the mental challenges of aging. 

 

 

 

 

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33 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

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Because Joe is a coward. He's always been a coward. 

 

 

Smart move by Biden's team.  Defunding the police plays right into Trump's hands.  I'm growing more impressed by his team every day of him not caving to the radical left and appealing to the more moderate dems that made him their candidate and won the Dems the House in '18.  I wonder who his main advisor is?

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Just now, Doc Brown said:

Smart move by Biden's team.  Defunding the police plays right into Trump's hands.  I'm growing more impressed by his team every day of him not caving to the radical left and appealing to the more moderate dems that made him their candidate and won the Dems the House in '18.  I wonder who his main advisor is?

 

I disagree -- not with your overall point, but in how it was executed. Biden did it through his third level spox, he'll still have to do it directly. 

 

And when he does, he'll pour gasoline on the fire within his own party. 

 

Joe Biden Supports Prison Nation pretending to defend working man ...

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7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I disagree -- not with your overall point, but in how it was executed. Biden did it through his third level spox, he'll still have to do it directly. 

 

And when he does, he'll pour gasoline on the fire within his own party. 

 

Joe Biden Supports Prison Nation pretending to defend working man ...

Trust me.  Him doing it through a 3rd level spokesman is excellent because he pry would of said I'm against defunding slavery.  I know you care more about the deep state, rooting out corruption, etc... but the economic and health care platform Biden runs on will do far more to help lower to middle income people than the Republican one.

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1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

Trust me.  Him doing it through a 3rd level spokesman is excellent because he pry would of said I'm against defunding slavery.  I know you care more about the deep state, rooting out corruption, etc... but the economic and health care platform Biden runs on will do far more to help lower to middle income people than the Republican one.


Middle income people will receive far more help from a reduction in taxes and federal bureaucracy than from an increase in either.

 

This seems intuitive, no?

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Just now, TakeYouToTasker said:


Middle income people will receive far more help from a reduction in taxes and federal bureaucracy than from an increase in either.

 

This seems intuitive, no?

I didn't know Biden was going to repeal the Trump tax cuts.  Is that in the official DNC platform?

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1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

I didn't know Biden was going to repeal the Trump tax cuts.  Is that in the official DNC platform?


Trump has campaigned on a continued reduction of both.  As such, if Biden’s position is that he will not cut regulations and taxes as much, if not more, than the President, his platform is higher taxes and more regulations than the President.

 

With that said, Democrats have always campaigned on higher taxes and more regulations.  I’m not sure why this time would be any different.

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4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

I didn't know Biden was going to repeal the Trump tax cuts.  Is that in the official DNC platform?

 

I don't know if it's official yet, but he said it on the stump himself more than once over the past six months. 

 

(the laugh before was for the slavery joke :beer: :lol: )

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5 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said:

 

Are you still voting Biden on principle?

 

 

To be completely honest, I’ve given a good deal of thought to this, and after much consideration I cannot bring myself to ever vote for a Democratic candidate ever again, even as a protest vote.

 

I will most likely not vote this year other than local offices.  I am beginning to embrace agorism.

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8 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I don't know if it's official yet, but he said it on the stump himself more than once over the past six months. 

 

(the laugh before was for the slavery joke :beer: :lol: )

He said he wouldn't touch the taxes of any household income below $400,000 I believe which is basically what Obama did with the Bush tax cuts in 2012.  BTW, the Biden jokes write themselves. :) 

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7 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

To be completely honest, I’ve given a good deal of thought to this, and after much consideration I cannot bring myself to ever vote for a Democratic candidate ever again, even as a protest vote.

 

I will most likely not vote this year other than local offices.  I am beginning to embrace agorism.

 

Vote 3rd party instead please.

 

The only way to get a 3rd party (which we desperately need IMHO) is for people disgusted with the other 2 to vote 3rd party as opposed to not voting.  Think of it as a none of the above vote.

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1 hour ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Vote 3rd party instead please.

 

The only way to get a 3rd party (which we desperately need IMHO) is for people disgusted with the other 2 to vote 3rd party as opposed to not voting.  Think of it as a none of the above vote.

 

Howie Hawkins?

 

 

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7 hours ago, snafu said:

 

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8 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Vote 3rd party instead please.

 

The only way to get GREEN Party (which we desperately need IMHO) is for people to donate 250 dollars to WWW.HOWIEHAWKINS.US volunteer to make phone calls raising money get out the vote stop wasting time with racist rapists TrumpOLINI and BidenS here LET'S GO BUFFALO 

 

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1 hour ago, 1915 Buffalo Bill Cody fan said:

@Jaraxxus @TakeYouToTasker why cowardly run away when real leadership is WWW.HOWIEHAWKINS.US peace through Green jobs 250 dollars is doubled by Presidential Matching Funds and Howie made a monkey out of Cuomo & the do nothing parties in the debate for Governor finally someone who knows how to be President not PERPTRATOR of the USA 

 

 

 

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59 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Somrbody.  It's not like they're gonna win anyway.  Makes a bigger/better statement than not voting IMHO.

 

I actually do this every year with the local elections. Usually candidates are endorsed by multiple parties, so when I see that, I don't vote on the "D" or the "R" line, figuring that the more they tally for other parties, the more clout those parties might eventually get. My infinitesimally small contribution. in 2016, I watched the Libertarian Presidential debate.  That clownshow put me off, so they didn't get my third party vote.

 

 

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