Syracuse Basketball 2023-24

[Buffalo716]

 

 

I bet both will be huge cogs next season 

 

People have been sleeping on Girard.. basically dogging him because kadary 

 

But I think he's going to impress as an upperclassman this year 

 

His range is insane

 

 

[Johnny Hammersticks]

1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

 

I bet both will be huge cogs next season 

 

People have been sleeping on Girard.. basically dogging him because kadary 

 

But I think he's going to impress as an upperclassman this year 

 

His range is insane

 

 

 

Hope so.  If he can learn to create off the dribble he might actually be a legit PG.  Last season he was not good.  Averaged 3.5 assists per game and shot 33% from deep?  No bueno for a supposed sharp shooting PG.  I’m certainly rooting for him though.

[inkman]

 Cuse lands Justin Taylor 

 

 

[Johnny Hammersticks]

10 hours ago, inkman said:

 Cuse lands Justin Taylor 

 

 

 

G-Mac was the primary recruiter for both Lands and Taylor.  Props to the man.  Mike Hopkins who?

[Buffalo716]

On 6/27/2021 at 6:20 AM, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

G-Mac was the primary recruiter for both Lands and Taylor.  Props to the man.  Mike Hopkins who?

He's definitely finding his groove..

 

Get a top PG and this can be a top class in the country

[Johnny Hammersticks]

3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

He's definitely finding his groove..

 

Get a top PG and this can be a top class in the country

 

I think there’s a good chance of landing Quadir Copeland and/or Chance Westry.

[Buffalo716]

If they could somehow land Donovan clingon we would be title contenders .. I know it's a long road to get him

 

It's been forever since we pulled a high caliber big man who could help day 1

Edited July 1, 2021 by Buffalo716

[Buffalo716]

 

Always remember... Jonny Hops 

 

 

[inkman]

 

[tempaccount]

@Johnny Hammersticks and @Buffalo716, this is my temp account (as noted by the handle) because I could not remember or retrieve my old password.  Former screen name was @nemhoff.  I have missed being able to banter with you guys about Cuse hoops and wanted to throw out a few thoughts for your insight.

 

1.  I think Benny Williams is going to be amazing for a year at the Cuse, probably best recruit since Melo IMO

2.  Dior is still a B**** and will regret going to Oregon (and I now live in OR and root for the Ducks)

3.  Quincy is an idiot, as noted here, and I believe will regret going to Oregon as well (I still live in Oregon)

4.  Bummer on Clingon, I am not super familiar with UCONN these days, but other than proximity not sure why he wouldn't get on the Cuse momentum right now

5.  Kamari Lands is going to better than advertised, can't wait to see him play for the Cuse

6.  I hope that Starling chooses to come home, that dude can fill it up

7.  Don't remember his name, but the kid out of VA (Taylor?) is a huge steal for Gmac to get him away from UVA

8.  The initial schock of the transfer portal and NBA submissions has passed and I believe that the Cuse will be better than last year.  Adding Jimmy and the NOVA kid will payoff big time I think.  Other than his rebounding, I think most of the loss of QG will be made up.

 

Thoughts?  Any mid-summer info?

[Buffalo716]

40 minutes ago, tempaccount said:

@Johnny Hammersticks and @Buffalo716, this is my temp account (as noted by the handle) because I could not remember or retrieve my old password.  Former screen name was @nemhoff.  I have missed being able to banter with you guys about Cuse hoops and wanted to throw out a few thoughts for your insight.

 

1.  I think Benny Williams is going to be amazing for a year at the Cuse, probably best recruit since Melo IMO

2.  Dior is still a B**** and will regret going to Oregon (and I now live in OR and root for the Ducks)

3.  Quincy is an idiot, as noted here, and I believe will regret going to Oregon as well (I still live in Oregon)

4.  Bummer on Clingon, I am not super familiar with UCONN these days, but other than proximity not sure why he wouldn't get on the Cuse momentum right now

5.  Kamari Lands is going to better than advertised, can't wait to see him play for the Cuse

6.  I hope that Starling chooses to come home, that dude can fill it up

7.  Don't remember his name, but the kid out of VA (Taylor?) is a huge steal for Gmac to get him away from UVA

8.  The initial schock of the transfer portal and NBA submissions has passed and I believe that the Cuse will be better than last year.  Adding Jimmy and the NOVA kid will payoff big time I think.  Other than his rebounding, I think most of the loss of QG will be made up.

 

Thoughts?  Any mid-summer info?

Hey man nice to see you!

 

Wild offseason with all the new rules.. 

 

All I can say is I think that SU recruiting is back.. the sanctions hurt but they're past that

 

We're going to have a really good 22 class coming in, and I think the future is bright

[Bray Wyatt]

On 7/6/2021 at 3:04 PM, tempaccount said:

@Johnny Hammersticks and @Buffalo716, this is my temp account (as noted by the handle) because I could not remember or retrieve my old password.  Former screen name was @nemhoff.  I have missed being able to banter with you guys about Cuse hoops and wanted to throw out a few thoughts for your insight.

 

1.  I think Benny Williams is going to be amazing for a year at the Cuse, probably best recruit since Melo IMO

2.  Dior is still a B**** and will regret going to Oregon (and I now live in OR and root for the Ducks)

3.  Quincy is an idiot, as noted here, and I believe will regret going to Oregon as well (I still live in Oregon)

4.  Bummer on Clingon, I am not super familiar with UCONN these days, but other than proximity not sure why he wouldn't get on the Cuse momentum right now

5.  Kamari Lands is going to better than advertised, can't wait to see him play for the Cuse

6.  I hope that Starling chooses to come home, that dude can fill it up

7.  Don't remember his name, but the kid out of VA (Taylor?) is a huge steal for Gmac to get him away from UVA

8.  The initial schock of the transfer portal and NBA submissions has passed and I believe that the Cuse will be better than last year.  Adding Jimmy and the NOVA kid will payoff big time I think.  Other than his rebounding, I think most of the loss of QG will be made up.

 

Thoughts?  Any mid-summer info?

 

Not so much worried about Guerrier leaving as long as we got some people willing to get after the boards.

 

Person I am worried about losing is Dolezaj, we were at out best with the offense running through him last year. Maybe the other Boeheim can fill that role

[Johnny Hammersticks]

On 7/6/2021 at 4:04 PM, tempaccount said:

@Johnny Hammersticks and @Buffalo716, this is my temp account (as noted by the handle) because I could not remember or retrieve my old password.  Former screen name was @nemhoff.  I have missed being able to banter with you guys about Cuse hoops and wanted to throw out a few thoughts for your insight.

 

1.  I think Benny Williams is going to be amazing for a year at the Cuse, probably best recruit since Melo IMO

2.  Dior is still a B**** and will regret going to Oregon (and I now live in OR and root for the Ducks)

3.  Quincy is an idiot, as noted here, and I believe will regret going to Oregon as well (I still live in Oregon)

4.  Bummer on Clingon, I am not super familiar with UCONN these days, but other than proximity not sure why he wouldn't get on the Cuse momentum right now

5.  Kamari Lands is going to better than advertised, can't wait to see him play for the Cuse

6.  I hope that Starling chooses to come home, that dude can fill it up

7.  Don't remember his name, but the kid out of VA (Taylor?) is a huge steal for Gmac to get him away from UVA

8.  The initial schock of the transfer portal and NBA submissions has passed and I believe that the Cuse will be better than last year.  Adding Jimmy and the NOVA kid will payoff big time I think.  Other than his rebounding, I think most of the loss of QG will be made up.

 

Thoughts?  Any mid-summer info?

 

What’s up man.  This is what I’m hearing.  The staff feels good about getting either of Starling/Copeland.  More likely Copeland, but Starling remains firmly in the picture.  Both have other big suitors.  Chance Westry is out from what I’m hearing.  Cuse once again having trouble recruiting bigs for ‘22.

[tempaccount]

Always appreciated!

[Buffalo716]

Boeheims army to the final four!

[The Poojer]

To the championship game

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, The Poojer said:

To the championship game

The team is do gritty.. it didn't look good but they always battle back

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Who is this Reese?! I have no Memory of him at BC. Dude has Been balling out. 

[Buffalo716]

On 8/1/2021 at 9:38 PM, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Who is this Reese?! I have no Memory of him at BC. Dude has Been balling out. 

He played at BC over a decade ago 

 

Has had an outstanding overseas career.. his quickness has made him unguardable this tournament

Edited August 3, 2021 by Buffalo716

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

I guess congrats to Boeheim’s Army— but that was the ugliest basketball game I probably have ever seen.  That should have played at LA Fitness. 

[Buffalo716]

49 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I guess congrats to Boeheim’s Army— but that was the ugliest basketball game I probably have ever seen.  That should have played at LA Fitness. 

Lmaooo 

 

TBT is ugly ... It's a bunch of overseas pros and ex pros and G league guys playing for accolades 

 

It's gonna be chippy 

 

Congrats to boeheims army! Devo showing mad emotions shows how much it means to them 

 

These are the best basketball players around the world who are not playing in the nba

Edited August 4, 2021 by Buffalo716

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

34 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Lmaooo 

 

TBT is ugly ... It's a bunch of overseas pros and ex pros and G league guys playing for accolades 

 

It's gonna be chippy 

 

Congrats to boeheims army! Devo showing mad emotions shows how much it means to them 

 

These are the best basketball players around the world who are not playing in the nba

I have always only caught bits and pieces of TBT games. This was the first one I saw from beginning to end.  It was just a blood bath. Guys just getting decked— no fouls. Lots of turnovers and just hacking going on.

 

That said, it was fun to see some of those old guys back out there. Sounds like both Devo and Lydon are hanging it up for good. Nice to see them go out as champs. 

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I have always only caught bits and pieces of TBT games. This was the first one I saw from beginning to end.  It was just a blood bath. Guys just getting decked— no fouls. Lots of turnovers and just hacking going on.

 

That said, it was fun to see some of those old guys back out there. Sounds like both Devo and Lydon are hanging it up for good. Nice to see them go out as champs. 

Yep , Lyndon needs knee surgery 100% done... Devo is just not young enough to keep playing competitively unfortunately

 

He did hit a big three today though

 

I watched the entire tournament.. every game was sloppy ,chippy, but it was fun basketball

 

And fun to see orangemen who I never thought would suit up again in Orange 

 

All around success this year 

 

Elam ending is nerve wrecking!

Edited August 4, 2021 by Buffalo716

[Buffalo716]

Seeing Devo , Fair , Lydon, Malachi , McCullough , And white really bring back the memories 

 

SU basketball has been a huge part of my life and I love seeing orangemen whenever's possible

 

 

 

 

[Buffalo716]

2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I have always only caught bits and pieces of TBT games. This was the first one I saw from beginning to end.  It was just a blood bath. Guys just getting decked— no fouls. Lots of turnovers and just hacking going on.

 

That said, it was fun to see some of those old guys back out there. Sounds like both Devo and Lydon are hanging it up for good. Nice to see them go out as champs. 

Few thoughts from this beautiful view... 34 year devendorf on the court

 

Devendorf consoles the team 23 player who looks absolutely dejected 

 

Devo is the heart and soul of Boeheims army 

 

As Devo said... This is Boeheims army... Not Syracuse army.. Jim HAS given support for all non SU players and welcomed them ... They have his Blessing

 

It really is a beautiful tournament for a beautiful game... Emotions run high just like any professional sports League... And Boeheims army is finally the basketball tournament champions

 

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

5 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Few thoughts from this beautiful view... 34 year devendorf on the court

 

Devendorf consoles the team 23 player who looks absolutely dejected 

 

Devo is the heart and soul of Boeheims army 

 

As Devo said... This is Boeheims army... Not Syracuse army.. Jim HAS given support for all non SU players and welcomed them ... They have his Blessing

 

It really is a beautiful tournament for a beautiful game... Emotions run high just like any professional sports League... And Boeheims army is finally the basketball tournament champions

 

 

Devo is a total class act. Wow. 

[Buffalo716]

Keifer Sykes signs an exhibit 10 deal! 

 

Congratulations. He's an honorary Orange in my book

Edited August 4, 2021 by Buffalo716

[tempaccount]

I had a blast watching the TBT this year, way more fun than Olympic BBall, sure it was ugly at times, but these guys were out there for a living and a passion for their program.

 

And it was great for the Cuse family

[Johnny Hammersticks]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/insidetheloudhouse.com/2021/08/08/syracuse-basketball-pledge-4-star-pg-mean-2022-class/amp/

 

‘22 PG Quadir Copeland commitment day!  I’m hearing we have a good chance 🤞🤞

[Johnny Hammersticks]

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CSaZWS0j-mw/?utm_medium=copy_link

 

Big pick up for ‘22.   He’ll be top 50-60 by this time next summer.  Now we need a big and we’ll be in good shape.

 

[DCOrange]

13 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CSaZWS0j-mw/?utm_medium=copy_link

 

Big pick up for ‘22.   He’ll be top 50-60 by this time next summer.  Now we need a big and we’ll be in good shape.

 

Excited to see him hopefully continue progressing now that he's at IMG next year. I'm still not totally sold on him; the games from a year or two ago that I had watched weren't pretty, but he does seem like he's improved based on the more recent games.

[tempaccount]

15 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CSaZWS0j-mw/?utm_medium=copy_link

 

Big pick up for ‘22.   He’ll be top 50-60 by this time next summer.  Now we need a big and we’ll be in good shape.

 

A competent center would be amazing, it has been soooo long since we have had that

[Johnny Hammersticks]

4 hours ago, DCOrange said:

Excited to see him hopefully continue progressing now that he's at IMG next year. I'm still not totally sold on him; the games from a year or two ago that I had watched weren't pretty, but he does seem like he's improved based on the more recent games.

 

I watched some of this summer’s highlights.  He looked much better.  Looks like his frame filled out and he has more room to add muscle.  Also looked much more confident and assertive as a floor general.  Great handle and seems to be better at creating off the dribble.  I love the commit.

 

2 hours ago, tempaccount said:

A competent center would be amazing, it has been soooo long since we have had that

 

A lot of folks feel confident that we’ll land the 7 foot C/PF from Mass, Peter Carey.  He’s gone under recruited, but has had an incredible summer.  I think we’re one of maybe 2 “big school” offers he has received.  There will be more before he commits anywhere.  Hopefully we got in early enough on him.

 

I’m still holding out hope for one of either JJ Starling or Chris Bunch.  Both wings that can also play either guard position.

[tempaccount]

1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

I watched some of this summer’s highlights.  He looked much better.  Looks like his frame filled out and he has more room to add muscle.  Also looked much more confident and assertive as a floor general.  Great handle and seems to be better at creating off the dribble.  I love the commit.

 

 

A lot of folks feel confident that we’ll land the 7 foot C/PF from Mass, Peter Carey.  He’s gone under recruited, but has had an incredible summer.  I think we’re one of maybe 2 “big school” offers he has received.  There will be more before he commits anywhere.  Hopefully we got in early enough on him.

 

I’m still holding out hope for one of either JJ Starling or Chris Bunch.  Both wings that can also play either guard position.

Does this mean Westry is off the board?  I kind of felt like it was him or Copeland but not both

[Johnny Hammersticks]

9 minutes ago, tempaccount said:

Does this mean Westry is off the board?  I kind of felt like it was him or Copeland but not both

 

I was told by my "source" that the coaching staff essentially moved on from Westry about a month ago and turned their focus toward Copeland.  I did notice, however, that Westry included Syracuse in his final 10 schools which were recently announced.  I can't imagine that Westry would commit to Syracuse after Copeland did.  We're going to be loaded at guard, and JG3 will still be on the team for the 22-23 season.

 

Edit:  The belief is that Westry is a heavy LSU lean, FWIW.

Edited August 11, 2021 by Johnny Hammersticks

[DCOrange]

1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

I watched some of this summer’s highlights.  He looked much better.  Looks like his frame filled out and he has more room to add muscle.  Also looked much more confident and assertive as a floor general.  Great handle and seems to be better at creating off the dribble.  I love the commit.

 

 

A lot of folks feel confident that we’ll land the 7 foot C/PF from Mass, Peter Carey.  He’s gone under recruited, but has had an incredible summer.  I think we’re one of maybe 2 “big school” offers he has received.  There will be more before he commits anywhere.  Hopefully we got in early enough on him.

 

I’m still holding out hope for one of either JJ Starling or Chris Bunch.  Both wings that can also play either guard position.

The handle is the thing I'm looking for more than anything from Copeland. He really struggled in those earlier games I watched; was nearing double digit turnovers per game mainly from just losing his dribble, sometimes without any defensive pressure. It definitely looked like he tightened it up at least a bit in some of the more recent footage I've seen but I haven't really had a chance to dive in fully yet.

 

I've been too busy lately to really keep my ear to the ground, but I had been told a month or so ago that JJ was probably a lost cause, though we're still trying. Bunch seems like he's always been very interested but it's seemed like he might be on our backburner. Sounds like this Dominick Barlow might be the new forward to keep an eye on.

 

And yeah, re: Westry, I had basically heard that he's always wanted to come to Syracuse but he's not the one in control of his decision and it sounds like he'll be headed elsewhere.

Edited August 11, 2021 by DCOrange

[Johnny Hammersticks]

1 hour ago, DCOrange said:

The handle is the thing I'm looking for more than anything from Copeland. He really struggled in those earlier games I watched; was nearing double digit turnovers per game mainly from just losing his dribble, sometimes without any defensive pressure. It definitely looked like he tightened it up at least a bit in some of the more recent footage I've seen but I haven't really had a chance to dive in fully yet.

 

I've been too busy lately to really keep my ear to the ground, but I had been told a month or so ago that JJ was probably a lost cause, though we're still trying. Bunch seems like he's always been very interested but it's seemed like he might be on our backburner. Sounds like this Dominick Barlow might be the new forward to keep an eye on.

 

And yeah, re: Westry, I had basically heard that he's always wanted to come to Syracuse but he's not the one in control of his decision and it sounds like he'll be headed elsewhere.

 

Copeland is likely still a work in progress, but he has incredible tools and size.  Love that he’s going to IMG for his senior year.  I think he’s gonna be a good one.

 

Heard the same thing about Westry.  Always wanted to go to Syracuse, but his “people” think he should take one of his big SEC offers.  Sounds like LSU is the lead dog.

 

With regard to Starling, I heard he was Maryland’s to lose.  Still holding out hope though because I really like his skill set.

 

Love Bunch for his perimeter shooting, but I could see why the staff would be all in on Barlow and Peter Carey to add size/athleticism.  Barlow is quickly becoming a known commodity, however, after his summer play.  

 

 

[Buffalo716]

2 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 

Copeland is likely still a work in progress, but he has incredible tools and size.  Love that he’s going to IMG for his senior year.  I think he’s gonna be a good one.

 

Heard the same thing about Westry.  Always wanted to go to Syracuse, but his “people” think he should take one of his big SEC offers.  Sounds like LSU is the lead dog.

 

With regard to Starling, I heard he was Maryland’s to lose.  Still holding out hope though because I really like his skill set.

 

Love Bunch for his perimeter shooting, but I could see why the staff would be all in on Barlow and Peter Carey to add size/athleticism.  Barlow is quickly becoming a known commodity, however, after his summer play.  

 

 

We get Carey , who I think is going to be rising in the rankings ..

 

I think we're solidly a top five-seven class in the country 

 

We are sitting really really good right now.. already the best draft class in a good amount of years

[DCOrange]

18 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

We get Carey , who I think is going to be rising in the rankings ..

 

I think we're solidly a top five-seven class in the country 

 

We are sitting really really good right now.. already the best draft class in a good amount of years

Yeah, this certainly looks like the best we've had in awhile on paper. Hopefully I'll be able to watch some film of the guys we've gotten at some point this year. I've seen highlights of course but highlights almost always look nice.

 

Currently the #5 class in the country per 24/7 based on total recruit points and #20 in terms of average recruit ranking. The last time we finished in the top 30 was the 2016 class with Battle, Moyer, and Taurean and our last top 10 class was 2015 with Malachi, Lydon, and Howard.

Edited August 12, 2021 by DCOrange

[tempaccount]

And the time to make this jump is now, new coach at UNC and Mike K on his farewell tour.  Jimmy has a window here to make it happen one more time.

 

haven’t heard much about the Carey kid, just want a big that can catch the ball and make a move in the post.  And bring some value to the pick and roll (teams have ignored our big in that action for years).