Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 That’s not good. We also now are 10-11 under this regime. I was happier then words can describe when we ended the drought last year. It had to be done. The drought was a dark cloud hanging over the Bills and it needed to be destroyed. We all deserved to see the playoffs and McDermott got us there. For the 2017 season alone, I am forever grateful. I also realize this was supposed to be a step back and a“rebuilding year” Still, I cant help but feel concerned. Being blown out in more the 1/4 of your games is not supposed to happen. Losing is one thing. Being non competitive in almost 30% of your games is a whole different animal. Im not sure how that will change. I am willing to give this guy the benefit of the doubt because of last year, but I am growing more nervous by the week. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Considering the roster I think they are pretty competitive. There might be 4 true starters on this team that aren't over the hill. You have to give it time. This isn't going to fix itself overnight. This roster is a dumpster fire and that is on purpose. Whether or not they are good at building a roster in the next couple years, I don't know. This isn't the time to panic though. 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Considering the roster I think they are pretty competitive. There might be 4 true starters on this team that aren't over the hill. You have to give it time. This isn't going to fix itself overnight. This roster is a dumpster fire and that is on purpose. Whether or not they are good at building a roster in the next couple years, I don't know. This isn't the time to panic though. I just don’t think it was bad when they got here. That’s my issue. I think Beane made it way worse for seemingly no reason. As if, these guys would rather lose with their guys then win with someone else’s. 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) This is a good post. It's one thing to lose, it's another thing to constantly get your ass handed to you. I am really starting to wonder how much more I can take. Between the game being worse than it ever was and the never ending sucktitude of the Bills, why do I even bother watching. There is a different guy every week throwing 5 or 6 TD's. Four guys are currently on pace to break Peyton Manning's passing record. Refs are progressively having a larger impact on games. The game is pure trash right now. Goodell has let the actual game on the field go to ****. I think I might be done with the whole thing soon. Edited October 2, 2018 by K-GunJimKelly12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I just don’t think it was bad when they got here. That’s my issue. I think Beane made it way worse for seemingly no reason. As if, these guys would rather lose with their guys then win with someone else’s. Because its a roster purge. The guys on the roster aren't necessarily "their guys." Its more like filler until they do get their guys. This team has been through the 6-10 to 8-8 years for over a decade. It gets the team nowhere because they have almost no chance at getting any stars in the draft. If all they can do is get around average guys then they have to spend the hell out of the salary cap on just a few players. This team has been there, done that. Maybe you don't like watching this team be a dumpster fire... truth is I don't like WATCHING it either. At the end of it though, I know its for the better. Next season they ought to have a really good draft and pick up some FA's as well. We should be able to be competitive from game to game next year. That's assuming Allen progresses and this staff knows what its doing. The following year they should be able to start competing for real. If not then its time to fire some people. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Their digging their ditch, beane and McDermott, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Do you happen to have stats showing the percentage other teams are blown out or perhaps a baseline of what constitutes a blowout? Otherwise this stat means absolutely nothing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Scott7975 said: Because its a roster purge. The guys on the roster aren't necessarily "their guys." Its more like filler until they do get their guys. This team has been through the 6-10 to 8-8 years for over a decade. It gets the team nowhere because they have almost no chance at getting any stars in the draft. If all they can do is get around average guys then they have to spend the hell out of the salary cap on just a few players. This team has been there, done that. Maybe you don't like watching this team be a dumpster fire... truth is I don't like WATCHING it either. At the end of it though, I know its for the better. Next season they ought to have a really good draft and pick up some FA's as well. We should be able to be competitive from game to game next year. That's assuming Allen progresses and this staff knows what its doing. The following year they should be able to start competing for real. If not then its time to fire some people. Problem is McCoy is closer to calling it a career and 95 will be gone. Edited October 1, 2018 by Helpmenow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: It wasn't. Fans here and McBeane will make you think everything Whaley did was !@#$ing awful. He wasn't great or even a good GM, but he wasn't awful either and found some solid players to build around. He found some solid players. He overspent on a lot of others. Most of our cap space was tied up in like 5 guys. Hence the purge. You cant win when you are against the cap and the best you can muster is 8-8/9-7. That leaves you crap shoot draft picks and no room on the cap to get anyone else. That's where this team was at two years ago and last year. They had to fix that crap. 1 minute ago, Helpmenow said: Problem is McCoy is closer to calling it a career and 95 will be gone. Im ok with that. They aren't part of the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I've pretty much wrote off this season. willing to give them this off season and draft but if 2019 still resembles the prior two, time to pretty much give up on this regime and franchise all together. I'm not going to be up to another carousel of gms/coaches/players, getting too old for it. yesterdays game was tough to watch but when you gut the roster and try and build it back up, games like yesterday can be expected. as it looks right now, this is about a 5 win team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Coaching on the offensive side of the ball has been a major problem. Let's get a young, innovative offensive mind in here and let that person run the offense. McDermott is just another "run and set up a nice punt and hope to win 14-10" type coaches that will never get anywhere until he gets with the times on offense. I do think there is hope in Josh Allen, because they DID choose him over Tuh-rod, who one would think would be their ultimate QB: do nothing, never turn it over, and allow the punter to have a nice game. But they went for a guy who can throw the ball a mile, which suggests they want to have a modern offense someday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 In 21 games we have been blown out 6 times and have 1 playoff appearance. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Just now, no name said: I've pretty much wrote off this season. willing to give them this off season and draft but if 2019 still resembles the prior two, time to pretty much give up on this regime and franchise all together. I'm not going to be up to another carousel of gms/coaches/players, getting too old for it. yesterdays game was tough to watch but when you gut the roster and try and build it back up, games like yesterday can be expected. as it looks right now, this is about a 5 win team? I would be very surprised if they get to 5 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Scott7975 said: He found some solid players. He overspent on a lot of others. Most of our cap space was tied up in like 5 guys. Hence the purge. You cant win when you are against the cap and the best you can muster is 8-8/9-7. That leaves you crap shoot draft picks and no room on the cap to get anyone else. That's where this team was at two years ago and last year. They had to fix that crap. Im ok with that. They aren't part of the future. Then you’ll need a running back who is hall of famer worthy as a replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Loss is a loss. Points don’t matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 What are their type of guys, milk drinkers, guys in bed by 9:00 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: That’s not good. We also now are 10-11 under this regime. I was happier then words can describe when we ended the drought last year. It had to be done. The drought was a dark cloud hanging over the Bills and it needed to be destroyed. We all deserved to see the playoffs and McDermott got us there. For the 2017 season alone, I am forever grateful. I also realize this was supposed to be a step back and a“rebuilding year” Still, I cant help but feel concerned. Being blown out in more the 1/4 of your games is not supposed to happen. Losing is one thing. Being non competitive in almost 30% of your games is a whole different animal. Im not sure how that will change. I am willing to give this guy the benefit of the doubt because of last year, but I am growing more nervous by the week. I don't even particularly like McD, but this franchise has sucked forever, and I don't think the blowouts offset the fact that he lead the team to their first playoff appearance in 2 decades. Especially considering that he took over a team that Wrex Wryan had almost systematically dismantled. Edited October 1, 2018 by OJ Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Helpmenow said: Then you’ll need a running back who is hall of famer worthy as a replacement Not really... Just draft a guy in the 3rd or 4th round who can give you a couple years of production then let him walk in free agency and do the same thing over again. RBs are a dime a dozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Just now, mead107 said: Loss is a loss. Points don’t matter. through your eyes only mac. getting blown out is embarrassing. keeping it close all game and losing it at least makes it watchable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Do you happen to have stats showing the percentage other teams are blown out or perhaps a baseline of what constitutes a blowout? Otherwise this stat means absolutely nothing Let’s just say for the sake of argument the games I mean are Saints @ Jets Chargers x2 @ Ravens and yesterday games that feel over before the half. il just go off the top of my head and say for reference the Pats probably haven’t had 6 of them total in the last 17 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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