Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Foxx said: so, what happened with Dareus' salary? He was traded, the Jags took it on. We ate his prorated bonus, which all accelerated into this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Check Bills dead cap Incorrect, his dead cap is signing bonus, not salary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Just now, Wayne Cubed said: We are paying it now, hence the dead money. Dead money is guaranteed money that still is owed to a specific player. Nope. Dead money is previously paid cash that we had amortized. His future payments go to his new team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Wayne Cubed said: We are paying it now, hence the dead money. Dead money is guaranteed money that still is owed to a specific player. no. as HBF pointed out, we are paying the accelerated signing bonus. the Jags are paying his salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 And since none of his money is guaranteed anymore, he has $10M reasons to behave himself with the Jags. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said: We are paying it now, hence the dead money. Dead money is guaranteed money that still is owed to a specific player. Actually technically is is guaranteed money for last year as well they got Dareus for less than 5M for the games he played for them. Doesnt matter Josh Gordon is 700k non guaranteed. He comes in and falls off wagon and gets suspended cut him No dead money Edited September 16, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Actually technically is is guaranteed money for last year as well umm, no. the only money the Bills payed outside of the signing bonus was the pro-rated portion due on his contract for last year. the Jags payed the pro-rated portion for all games going forward after the trade. Edited September 16, 2018 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 21 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Right? But even beyond our situation... would you rather 1 year out of allen hurns, John Ross or amendola (as random names getting 5-6m this year), vs just stashing a guy like Gordon as someone you don’t count on but shows up occasionally for his entire career to date? It’s like 690k in salary to take him for the rest of this year. How many solidly really good games do you need for that and a 5 to be worthwhile? Like 4? 8? Hell has benjamin cracked 40 yards more than once for us? And he cost way more in cash and picks theoretically Exactly. I won’t be upset by any day 3 pick really. If he goes for a day 2 you are starting to see an actual opportunity cost in picking him up and that’s where risk starts to kick in ...Gordon is not a money issue....it's that faulty Intel chip between his ears........this guy is still nursing Gerber strained prunes as his pre-game meal.....never has, did not nor will he EVER get "it"....chalk it up to yet another wasted talent who effed up millions in opportunities...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Well this gave me a chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...Gordon is not a money issue....it's that faulty Intel chip between his ears........this guy is still nursing Gerber strained prunes as his pre-game meal.....never has, did not nor will he EVER get "it"....chalk it up to yet another wasted talent who effed up millions in opportunities...... 4 Reasons you trade for Gordon Immediately. 1. Josh Allen Development 2. Elite WR when on field for 700k and no Future long term risk. 3. Stays on field, he is an RFA next year so Low Tender him. Someone Offers a LTD take the 2nd rounder and run. 4. Josh Allen Development Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Avoid this a tragedy waiting to happen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: 4 Reasons you trade for Gordon Immediately. 1. Josh Allen Development 2. Elite WR when on field for 700k and no Future long term risk. 3. Stays on field, he is an RFA next year so Low Tender him. Someone Offers a LTD take the 2nd rounder and run. 4. Josh Allen Development ...FIVE reasons not to.. 1. no way 2. not a chance 3. wasted space head case 4. we already spent $3.5 mil on another Cleveland flunkie 5. perfect fit for Plastic Puss Jones' day care.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...Gordon is not a money issue....it's that faulty Intel chip between his ears........this guy is still nursing Gerber strained prunes as his pre-game meal.....never has, did not nor will he EVER get "it"....chalk it up to yet another wasted talent who effed up millions in opportunities...... Who cares if he gets it though? Right? That’s kind of my point and you keep going back to the fact that he doesn’t get it. 6 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: 4 Reasons you trade for Gordon Immediately. 1. Josh Allen Development 2. Elite WR when on field for 700k and no Future long term risk. 3. Stays on field, he is an RFA next year so Low Tender him. Someone Offers a LTD take the 2nd rounder and run. 4. Josh Allen Development Bingo. Which is why he might go for more than expected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Who cares if he gets it though? Right? That’s kind of my point and you keep going back to the fact that he doesn’t get it. Bingo. Which is why he might go for more than expected ...he's not even worth an Earl Scheib paint job IMO.....strictly opinion..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 There is some Powerball-level wishful thinking going on in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...FIVE reasons not to.. 1. no way 2. not a chance 3. wasted space head case 4. we already spent $3.5 mil on another Cleveland flunkie 5. perfect fit for Plastic Puss Jones' day care.......... So In essense so football reasons true to form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...he's not even worth an Earl Scheib paint job IMO.....strictly opinion..................... Do you believe he never catches another pass? Or? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: So In essense so football reasons true to form ...best I could do within the confines of my limited abilities...sorry............. 2 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Do you believe he never catches another pass? Or? .....SADLY, I believe "catching breaks and catching passes" are no longer in the lad's future, a potentially bright one squandered away along with MILLIONS.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 did we sign him yet? no? how about now? now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEE1 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Hopefully the Bills stay away from him. We need help not more problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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