ALF Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Woodward's 448-page book, Bob Woodward: Trump's aides stole his papers 'to protect the country' President Donald Trump's closest aides have taken extraordinary measures in the White House to try to stop what they saw as his most dangerous impulses, going so far as to swipe and hide papers from his desk so he wouldn't sign them, according to a new book from legendary journalist Bob Woodward. Woodward offers a devastating portrait of a dysfunctional Trump White House, detailing how senior aides — both current and former Trump administration officials — grew exasperated with the President and increasingly worried about his erratic behavior, ignorance and penchant for lying. Chief of staff John Kelly describes Trump as an "idiot" and "unhinged," Woodward reports. Defense Secretary James Mattis describes Trump as having the understanding of "a fifth or sixth grader." And Trump's former personal lawyer John Dowd describes the President as "a !@#$ing liar," telling Trump he would end up in an "orange jump suit" if he testified to special counsel Robert Mueller. "He's an idiot. It's pointless to try to convince him of anything. He's gone off the rails. We're in crazytown," Kelly is quoted as saying at a staff meeting in his office. "I don't even know why any of us are here. This is the worst job I've ever had." https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/04/politics/bob-woodward-book-donald-trump-fear/index.html?adkey=bn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 That story was already rejected by Kelly months ago... But Woodward has nameless sources, so they must be real/truthful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: That story was already rejected by Kelly months ago... But Woodward has nameless sources, so they must be real/truthful. Unnamed sources, eh? That's about all anybody seems to have nowadays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, ALF said: Chief of staff John Kelly describes Trump as an "idiot" and "unhinged," Woodward reports. Defense Secretary James Mattis describes Trump as having the understanding of "a fifth or sixth grader." And Trump's former personal lawyer John Dowd describes the President as "a !@#$ing liar," telling Trump he would end up in an "orange jump suit" if he testified to special counsel Robert Mueller. All that, and yet still not Hillary. I call that a victory. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 19 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: That story was already rejected by Kelly months ago... But Woodward has nameless sources, so they must be real/truthful. As we know, the unnamed sources are only correct if they either cite unnamed methods or that they heard the information 3rd hand from another unnamed source who was in a position to overhear someone close to the situation talking about it in the bathroom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Woodward's "Legend" doesn't match reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Woodward's anonymous source had to be gator so we know how seriously we must take his book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donbb Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 WaPo has a recording of a call between Woodward and Trump (and a little bit of KellyAnne). Trump comes off as dumb as ever - and lies multiple times as well. You idiots are in denial if you believe Trump over Woodward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Where's your link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Gary is gonna keep on believing unnamed sources - even though they constantly are proven to be wrong - until he goes down with the ship. It's not about Trump vs Woodward's credibility. It's about Woodward's work - which relies exclusively on anonymous sources talking about stories the principles already denied. Good reporting has evidence to back it up. Woodward's book has unnamed speculations. Its gossip. Not journalism. And it's shite because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, donbb said: WaPo has a recording of a call between Woodward and Trump (and a little bit of KellyAnne). Trump comes off as dumb as ever - and lies multiple times as well. You idiots are in denial if you believe Trump over Woodward. Does he sound dumber than he did in November 2016? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donbb Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Where's your link? Try Google - I know it didn't come straight from DRs mouth so it might be hard for you to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Just now, donbb said: Try Google - I know it didn't come straight from DRs mouth so it might be hard for you to believe. You stated it, you provide the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donbb Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Gary is gonna keep on believing unnamed sources - even though they constantly are proven to be wrong - until he goes down with the ship. It's not about Trump vs Woodward's credibility. It's about Woodward's work - which relies exclusively on anonymous sources talking about stories the principles already denied. Good reporting has evidence to back it up. Woodward's book has unnamed speculations. Its gossip. Not journalism. And it's shite because of it. Says the idiot quoting undercover huber and techno frog. I'm finally putting you on ignore. You contribute less than nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Only someone who doesn't look at the information shared in those links, which are primary sources, would think that. And be honest, Gary. You can't quit me. You've proven that over multiple accounts and handle changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: That story was already rejected by Kelly months ago... But Woodward has nameless sources, so they must be real/truthful. Isn't is self evidently true, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Not when the subject of the story, Kelly, denies its reality. Again, you've been pushing a baseless conspiracy theory for over two years now, so I understand why you confuse fiction with fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 Transcript: Phone call between President Trump and journalist Bob Woodward https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/04/transcript-phone-call-between-president-trump-journalist-bob-woodward/?utm_term=.4824388584de Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Not when the subject of the story, Kelly, denies its reality. Again, you've been pushing a baseless conspiracy theory for over two years now, so I understand why you confuse fiction with fact. I've been pushing conspiracy theories??? Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, ALF said: Transcript: Phone call between President Trump and journalist Bob Woodward https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/09/04/transcript-phone-call-between-president-trump-journalist-bob-woodward/?utm_term=.4824388584de I wish St. John the Maverick was still alive, just so he could die, and the resulting week of wall-to-wall beatification would spare us the pain of watching the Post shill yet another attempt by Bob Woodward to relive his Watergate glory years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 27 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: You stated it, you provide the link. Too stupid to Google! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 57 minutes ago, donbb said: WaPo has a recording of a call between Woodward and Trump (and a little bit of KellyAnne). Trump comes off as dumb as ever - and lies multiple times as well. You idiots are in denial if you believe Trump over Woodward. You are, without a doubt a complete, lying douchebag. Alf posted a link to your WAPO tape. There's noting there. Were you just hoping you could get by sayingshit and not expecting anyone to listen to it? Go block DR like you said you'd do and then come back under another name again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Just now, 3rdnlng said: You are, without a doubt a complete, lying douchebag. Alf posted a link to your WAPO tape. There's noting there. Were you just hoping you could get by sayingshit and not expecting anyone to listen to it? Go block DR like you said you'd do and then come back under another name again. Noting!!??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 58 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Gary is gonna keep on believing unnamed sources - even though they constantly are proven to be wrong - until he goes down with the ship. It's not about Trump vs Woodward's credibility. It's about Woodward's work - which relies exclusively on anonymous sources talking about stories the principles already denied. Good reporting has evidence to back it up. Woodward's book has unnamed speculations. Its gossip. Not journalism. And it's shite because of it. I found his "unnamed sources." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 This really isn't news. Trump is a moron with a vast over inflated ego who is in way over his head and doesn't know it. He doesn't understand much of anything policy wise. He is good at connecting with other low information people, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Woodward's readers gonna eat it up! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donbb Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: You are, without a doubt a complete, lying douchebag. Alf posted a link to your WAPO tape. There's noting there. Were you just hoping you could get by sayingshit and not expecting anyone to listen to it? Go block DR like you said you'd do and then come back under another name again. Did a trout fart in your cereal? "Noting" there? Learn to spell - I'll give you another chance in October. Good grief! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 minute ago, donbb said: Did a trout fart in your cereal? "Noting" there? Learn to spell - I'll give you another chance in October. Good grief! Thank you for pointing out my typo. Now, do you have anything to say about your cheap trick attempt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, donbb said: Did a trout fart in your cereal? "Noting" there? Learn to spell - I'll give you another chance in October. Good grief! He's too stupid to spell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donbb Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Just now, Tiberius said: He's too stupid to spell! And too stupid to know when October is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 minute ago, donbb said: And too stupid to know when October is. I think it's in May, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, donbb said: And too stupid to know when October is. This applies to third thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 23 minutes ago, DC Tom said: I think it's in May, right? It's Tuesday, so this must be Belgium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 32 minutes ago, donbb said: And too stupid to know when October is. I don't know what your preoccupation with October is; could it be when you are coming back under a different name? Thank you for pointing out my typo. Now, do you have anything to say about your cheap trick attempt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: I don't know what your preoccupation with October is; could it be when you are coming back under a different name? Thank you for pointing out my typo. Now, do you have anything to say about your cheap trick attempt? Wow, right over your head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 The book is 100% consistent with how I have pictured El Presidente and the inner workings of his administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Woodward's "sources" are already denying it: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Woodward's "sources" are already denying it: Ah, but Bobby-boy stated on tape that he disclosed who was in the room whenever there was a quote regarding Trump. He never disclosed who claimed what was said. Real sneaky, like something Gary would do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 His source this time was "Deep Throater," aka Stormy Daniels. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) When Woodward wrote about the disaster that was Obama's first two years in office, did this board offer this defense? Just curious. That was a great book and showed what a thin-skinned back-biting president he was. Woodward tapes his conversations. Meticulously researches and verifies his sources. He's known for being one of the most anal source-verifiers. Des anyone *really* think Kelly did NOT call Trump an idiot? I'd think Kelly was an idiot if he did not call Trump an idiot. And of course he has to deny the story. If he sues Woodward, let me know. That Trump's White House is a dysfunctional mess is not exactly breaking news. We didn't need Woodward to tell us that, but it doesn't mean he's been an ineffective leader on many issues. He's been an incredibly effective leader and many fronts. But it would be hard to imagine a more dysfunctional WH in recent memory. Let me guess: Woodward is a Grand-Thetan in the Deep State. Edited September 4, 2018 by BeginnersMind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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