Logic Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Seeing reports from camp so far of the Bills' offense featuring multiple RPOs, sprintouts, triple option looks, ample pre-snap motion, empty sets out of 21 personnel, formations that force mismatches... Could it be that for the first time in what feels like, I dunno...20 years or so...the Buffalo Bills could actually run a modern NFL offense?! I know, I know, it seems impossible. But I am absolutely LOVING what I'm hearing/seeing so far in terms of formations, concepts, and personnel. Very encouraging! 18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 After 3 seasons with a running QB it will seem like a huge improvement. Â 5 3 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Wanted to see RPO. If it helped beat the Pats I was going to ask why we wouldn't use it if we didn't institute it. Â Â Going to to be nice to see a QB that throws the ball and an offense that is modern. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 minute ago, JinxedBill1 said: Wanted to see RPO. If it helped beat the Pats I was going to ask why we wouldn't use it if we didn't institute it. Â Â Going to to be nice to see a QB that throws the ball and an offense that is modern. Â This is why people were happy to see Nate actually look like a real passing QB even though it turned ugly in that game. Â Â Â Â 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 I don't know every year you get this kind of "never seen an OC do that" talk and every year it ends up the same come game day. We won't know until they play games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Jerk Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) Optimism. Yea, I need some of that. Edited July 28, 2018 by The Jerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: This is why people were happy to see Nate actually look like a real passing QB even though it turned ugly in that game. Â Â Â Â Nate isn't a QB. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Im excited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Boca BIlls said: Nate isn't a QB. Ummm. Ok.  Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 31 minutes ago, Logic said: Seeing reports from camp so far of the Bills' offense featuring multiple RPOs, sprintouts, triple option looks, ample pre-snap motion, empty sets out of 21 personnel, formations that force mismatches... Could it be that for the first time in what feels like, I dunno...20 years or so...the Buffalo Bills could actually run a modern NFL offense?! I know, I know, it seems impossible. But I am absolutely LOVING what I'm hearing/seeing so far in terms of formations, concepts, and personnel. Very encouraging! Ground and pound!  Pound the rock!  Build a bully!  Run and stop the run!   1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 In the NFL a variety of offensive systems succeed. Some are more complex than others. The biggest determining factor for success for an offense is the level of talent on the unit and the caliber of qb leading the offense. For the most part how you execute a play is more important than outsmarting a defense. Teams intensely watch game tapes. Offenses have a good sense what the defense is doing and defenses have a good sense what the offense is doing. Right now, regardless who is coaching the offense this offense is going to have problems. And it will be due to a lack of talent on that side of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: I don't know every year you get this kind of "never seen an OC do that" talk and every year it ends up the same come game day. We won't know until they play games. Thanks, Schopp. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 The irony is this is the EXACT type of offense that they should have been running for the last 3 years. They had the personnel to do it. I’m glad to see it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: The irony is this is the EXACT type of offense that they should have been running for the last 3 years. They had the personnel to do it. I’m glad to see it. i'm not convinced the guy that was under center would have been able to run it though. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: The irony is this is the EXACT type of offense that they should have been running for the last 3 years. They had the personnel to do it. I’m glad to see it.  Just now, Foxx said: i'm not convinced the guy that was under center would have been able to run it though. Agreed to both u guyz  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Fadingpain said: Ground and pound!  Pound the rock!  Build a bully!  Run and stop the run!   Let's go eat a #£%%¥@& snack!  EDIT:  I finally realized there is an unspoken sentence to follow that: "Before my brother Rob eats them all!" Edited July 29, 2018 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Brainstorm. Ouch. 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 There is no doubt that our play calling the last few years did not put Tyrod in the best possible position to succeed. We could have done so much more with scheming and play calling to harness his natural athleticism, which was as high as anyone on the team. Â Better late than never. Â Â 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, Foxx said: i'm not convinced the guy that was under center would have been able to run it though. Nor the OC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Boca BIlls said: Nate isn't a QB. Neither was TT? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted July 28, 2018 Author Share Posted July 28, 2018 Here's the thing: It is possible to scheme up inferior offensive talent and get production out of them. Everyone knows the Bills offense lacks playmakers. With creative offensive playcalling, though, the likes of which Daboll is already demonstrating in camp, you can scheme guys open. Players like McCloud, Foster, Dupre, and Reilly are making plays in camp against a good defense because the playcalls are creative, the formations are put together with intent to create mismatches, and the playmakers we DO have (McCoy, Benjamin, Clay) are being moved around the formation. So anyone who says "Schemes don't matter, its all about execution!"...I disagree. I think schemes DEFINITELY matter. I think you're going to see the Bills offense improve from last year not based on upgraded talent, but based on creative playcalling and exploitation of mismatches. That's Daboll. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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