Doc Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, jr1 said: don't give anyone keys to your house Especially a chick who has 2 kids from Mike Vick's younger brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 My gut feeling, truth be told, is that she got into some kind of altercation not related to Shady. Whether a basic break-in, or she brought home a guy and somehow angered him. She then got the crap beaten out of her. While battered, she realized she could really screw McCoy over if she claimed it was McCoy setting up the robbery and lied about the attacker demanding specific items she knew he wanted. This way, she'd not only stick it to him, but it would generate a ton of free publicity and sympathy for the public. IIRC, it was mentioned earlier in the thread that she changed her Twitter to 'followers only' and has picked up a ton of new ones. I think she took something unrelated to Shady and manipulated it to her advantage. ...note, that's my opinion. I am not certain...there isn't enough (any) evidence, and as far as I'm concerned it is still quite possible he was indeed responsible. So, while I have a hunch, I will not pass judgement in any direction until the facts are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: I think it's clear Shady's ex's lawyer says he's incredibly petty. I also think the ex's-via-lawyer's story - "He wanted to marry me May 29th, then tried to kick me out June 1st" - is...let's say, incomplete. I'm thinking maybe the story begins sometime before the 29th. I agree. Pure speculation, but it's possible the "more to the story" part could also include a third person that actually robbed her/beat her, potentially someone else that she knows or was involved with. Right now it's... "I have not had any direct contact with any of the people involved in months" vs. He dumped me without saying anything, tried to evict me by shutting off the electricity/moving my stuff, and did so without any warning The beating/robbing/instagram post could be terrible luck for shady. It could also mean she's telling the truth. I dunno who to go with here, but it feels like the making of a true crime documentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, MURPHD6 said: You've certainly jugged the potential victim quite harshly. And no not as possible or as probable given precidents. You watch too many movies dude. People are rarely framed for crimes. People commonly beat the crap out if their exes though. Wasn't there just a case where a woman claimed her boyfriend beat her, but video showed she was beaten up by another woman? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said: People are rarely framed for crimes. Doh! https://buffalonews.com/2018/07/10/charges-dropped-in-wheatfield-child-snatching-because-of-mistaken-identity/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, The Red King said: My gut feeling, truth be told, is that she got into some kind of altercation not related to Shady. Whether a basic break-in, or she brought home a guy and somehow angered him. She then got the crap beaten out of her. While battered, she realized she could really screw McCoy over if she claimed it was McCoy setting up the robbery and lied about the attacker demanding specific items she knew he wanted. This way, she'd not only stick it to him, but it would generate a ton of free publicity and sympathy for the public. IIRC, it was mentioned earlier in the thread that she changed her Twitter to 'followers only' and has picked up a ton of new ones. I think she took something unrelated to Shady and manipulated it to her advantage. ...note, that's my opinion. I am not certain...there isn't enough (any) evidence, and as far as I'm concerned it is still quite possible he was indeed responsible. So, while I have a hunch, I will not pass judgement in any direction until the facts are in. So we can just type "I will not pass judgement" immediately following a fabricated story that does nothing but pass judgement. Is that how this works? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said: You've certainly jugged the potential victim quite harshly. And no not as possible or as probable given precidents. You watch too many movies dude. People are rarely framed for crimes. People commonly beat the crap out if their exes though. This one has all the ingredients to a made for tv movie. Security camera lapes, hired henchmen. A famous guy and allegations. Jewelery and female victims. We don't have an arrest yet. We still on an investigation detective. Edited July 11, 2018 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, MURPHD6 said: You've certainly jugged the potential victim quite harshly. And no not as possible or as probable given precidents. You watch too many movies dude. People are rarely framed for crimes. People commonly beat the crap out if their exes though. When did I judge the victim? Where? Saying she might have framed him being plausible? Never said it was likely. There are a number of plausible explanations and I refuse to join a lynch mob without evidence, unlike others it seems. I hate the whole "If yer not for us, you're 'gainst us!" mentality. There is not enough (any) evidence to conclude McCoy was responsible. Likewise...there is not enough (any) evidence yet to clear him, either! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, fridge said: So we can just type "I will not pass judgement" immediately following a fabricated story that does nothing but pass judgement. Is that how this works? Apparently it does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxxxxx Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, Lurker said: Doh! https://buffalonews.com/2018/07/10/charges-dropped-in-wheatfield-child-snatching-because-of-mistaken-identity/ Oh wow. One story. I bet you use this one all the time. Your cute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, fridge said: So we can just type "I will not pass judgement" immediately following a fabricated story that does nothing but pass judgement. Is that how this works? Saying something is plausible isn't the same as saying it happened. Good lord... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, jr1 said: don't give anyone keys to your house There was a jar of keys to the house under the mat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lurker said: Doh! https://buffalonews.com/2018/07/10/charges-dropped-in-wheatfield-child-snatching-because-of-mistaken-identity/ I saw that. That guy is a real creep. Watch your kids everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) Or, let me put it another way. My kids break a lamp. I think it's more likely my daughter's fault, she's the wild one. But I can't chew her out for it without proof, even if I think her doing it is the most likely scenario. I have a number of plausible scenarios, and one I think most likely, but I still cannot conclude what happened without actual proof. ...clear things up? Edited July 11, 2018 by The Red King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lurker said: Doh! https://buffalonews.com/2018/07/10/charges-dropped-in-wheatfield-child-snatching-because-of-mistaken-identity/ I saw that on the news tonight..that cat who was locked up for all of those days is going to semi own Niagara County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, MURPHD6 said: Oh wow. One story. I bet you use this one all the time. Your cute. That's from today, meathead. I didn't even have to search for it. I thought you were out, BTW. What gives... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: There was a jar of keys to the house under the mat. To Shady's house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxxxxx Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, The Red King said: When did I judge the victim? Where? Saying she might have framed him being plausible? Never said it was likely. There are a number of plausible explanations and I refuse to join a lynch mob without evidence, unlike others it seems. I hate the whole "If yer not for us, you're 'gainst us!" mentality. There is not enough (any) evidence to conclude McCoy was responsible. Likewise...there is not enough (any) evidence yet to clear him, either! Every single time you insist that a potential victim of violence might have done it themselves you judge them. If you have reservations, you can keep them to youself, most sensible folk do that, instead of demanding proof. Edited July 11, 2018 by MURPHD6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, The Red King said: Or, let me put it another way. My kids break a lamp. I think it's more likely my daughter's fault, she's the wild one. But I can't chew her out for it without proof, even if I think her doing it is the most likely scenario. ...clear things up? I saw that episode. It was not Marsha after all. It turned out to be Peter 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, first_and_ten said: I saw that. That guy is a real creep. Watch your kids everyone. Which guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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