Favorite Beatles Album

[Greybeard]

2 hours ago, T&C said:

The brief fast light cymbals and the the guitar/drums at the beginning of "It don't come easy" got me back then, WKBW days, and gets me every time nowadays... kind of like the beginning of Badge. 

 

The McCartney album had mixed reviews that have changed from then to now but I've got to hand it to the guy... It wasn't the best of times for him, a lot of stress, then but to play every instrument on an entire album on a major label is impressive.

 

Only two other guys I can think of who could pull something like that off would be Todd Rundgren or Jeff Lynne. 

        I always thought that Emitt Rhodes was the first to write, produce and play all the instruments on an album.  It may be I think that because I heard the Rhodes album first.  The album was recorded in his garage.  If you didn't know who was writing and singing, you might think it is McCartney.  If you like early McCartney, you should give it a listen.

       Rhodes was in a band called Merry-Go-Round before his solo effort.  They had a couple of singles that broke the top 100 but never went very high.  My favorite is "You're a Very  Lovely Woman."

       He is listed as a power pop artist.  A guy from Rochester, Ray Paul, worked with Rhodes.  I am curious if anyone here has heard of either of them.

       

[T&C]

23 minutes ago, Greybeard said:

        I always thought that Emitt Rhodes was the first to write, produce and play all the instruments on an album.  It may be I think that because I heard the Rhodes album first.  The album was recorded in his garage.  If you didn't know who was writing and singing, you might think it is McCartney.  If you like early McCartney, you should give it a listen.

       Rhodes was in a band called Merry-Go-Round before his solo effort.  They had a couple of singles that broke the top 100 but never went very high.  My favorite is "You're a Very  Lovely Woman."

       He is listed as a power pop artist.  A guy from Rochester, Ray Paul, worked with Rhodes.  I am curious if anyone here has heard of either of them.

       

Could be, I just don't know. I don't have time to research all of this *****. I'll check it out though for sure if its on youtube.

[Ralonzo]

On 9/18/2019 at 1:24 PM, row_33 said:

His overt country&western covers on the early albums helped counterbalance the semi-C&W songs of John and Paul during that phase, besides C&W got superhot for rock acts like Dylan, Stones, Byrds, Grateful Dead... Ringo was a pioneer...

 

 

I figured the whole English electric bluegrass kick started when Music From Big Pink made it across the pond; suddenly everyone wanted to be The Band (especially Clapton) 

 

22 hours ago, Greybeard said:

        I always thought that Emitt Rhodes was the first to write, produce and play all the instruments on an album.  It may be I think that because I heard the Rhodes album first.  The album was recorded in his garage.  If you didn't know who was writing and singing, you might think it is McCartney.  If you like early McCartney, you should give it a listen.

       Rhodes was in a band called Merry-Go-Round before his solo effort.  They had a couple of singles that broke the top 100 but never went very high.  My favorite is "You're a Very  Lovely Woman."

       

 

Absolutely, he still gets played on some album rock stations in the midwest.

Edited September 19, 2019 by Ralonzo

[T&C]

Rubber Soul photo shoot:

 

[row_33]

19 hours ago, Ralonzo said:

 

I figured the whole English electric bluegrass kick started when Music From Big Pink made it across the pond; suddenly everyone wanted to be The Band (especially Clapton) 

 

 

 

 

Stones HTW was released before anyone heard of The Band, arguably the greatest Stones single of all time.

 

Keith got into work with Ry Cooder and Gram Parsons to make it all cool.  It wasn't advisable to spend quality leisure time with Keith back then... 

 

 

Edited September 20, 2019 by row_33

[The Real Buffalo Joe]

On 9/17/2019 at 11:57 AM, row_33 said:

a millenial co-worker had no idea who that is for that iconic photo....  

 

 

 

What an idiot! That's obviously the guy from Weezer!

[row_33]

On 9/20/2019 at 2:55 PM, The Real Buffalo Joe said:

What an idiot! That's obviously the guy from Weezer!

 

when everyone else around us laughed or entered a state of apoplexy he said he was just joking.... i dunno....

 

 

 

 

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worst instrumental backup to another's lead singing??

 

John's nominations are for his work on You Like Me to Much (talk about filler....) and bass on The Long and Winding Road (that had to be sabotage)

 

again i've recall statements that they turned him down on recordings where he wasn't up to snuff on guitar..

 

 

 

 

Edited September 21, 2019 by row_33

[Buftex]

On 9/18/2019 at 1:41 PM, Rico said:

Oh I’m not hating on Ringo, it just is what it is. Just cause a song is filler doesn’t mean it’s bad, his songs are good filler, I enjoy them all. 

Though I don't hate the song, if I never heard "Yellow Submarine" again, I would be okay with that.

 

[The Frankish Reich]

On 9/16/2019 at 9:14 AM, row_33 said:

 

Rev 9 was a pop homage to the way it was going in "classical music", the rub was that Macca was the one really interested in exploring the day's art and music and cultural scene, so John and Yoko upstaged him

 

Yoko's mentor's grand release in 1969... that was the way it was... in the name of high culture.

 

I met John Cage when he was already in his 70s. It was in the middle of a "performance" of a piece he called Lecture on the Weather. While various thunder/lighting effects were going off and a bunch of people were reading random (and different) passages from Thoreau, he was walking around amidst the "audience" (of which I was one). He had no qualms about people talking - including to him - during the performance because, well, he always thought the audience was as much a part of the performance as the performer/composer. Obviously not something that translates into a recording, but it was quite memorable as a piece of performance art. Weird to say of abstract conceptual stuff, but it was actually fun. That's what was sadly missing from Yoko's art, even when she tried to be fun.

 

 

 

 

[row_33]

Took wasn’t talented enough or publicity-savvy to carry on from Cage

 

pop music requires a lot less talent to find an eternal niche

 

 

[The Real Buffalo Joe]

12 hours ago, Buftex said:

Though I don't hate the song, if I never heard "Yellow Submarine" again, I would be okay with that.

 

I go to see the Fab Four every year. Probably the best tribute I've ever seen. @Gugny can attest. We both had the same review. They sound excellent, but I would have liked a longer show, and a little more of the B-Sides. But I finally got one of my wishes this year, and they didn't play YS. The only time I really care if I hear it again, is if I go see Ringo live, and that's just so I can say I've heard it.

[Rico]

14 hours ago, Buftex said:

Though I don't hate the song, if I never heard "Yellow Submarine" again, I would be okay with that.

 

Ive heard others say that, but it was a childhood fav of mine, so I will always have a place in my heart for it. Maxwell’s Silver Hammer OTOH...

[row_33]

28 minutes ago, Rico said:

Ive heard others say that, but it was a childhood fav of mine, so I will always have a place in my heart for it. Maxwell’s Silver Hammer OTOH...

 

MSH is epic for raising the hatred of the other three permanently, may have been the final straw that broke them, having to work that many hours on it...  :D

 

wonder how many never got to hear Good NIght after Revolution 9.

 

 

[Buftex]

16 minutes ago, Rico said:

Ive heard others say that, but it was a childhood fav of mine, so I will always have a place in my heart for it. Maxwell’s Silver Hammer OTOH...

Yeah, likewise, but I kinda like Maxwell too... it fits in as part of the bigger piece...Yellow Submarine is probably the first pop record that most of us heard, if we were born in the mid to late 60's.  Hell, I remember having a Yellow Subamrine read-along book when I was a tyke.. one of the very first books I was ever exposed to.  

[Buftex]

8 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

MSH is epic for raising the hatred of the other three permanently, may have been the final straw that broke them, having to work that many hours on it... 

 

wonder how many never got to hear Good NIght after Revolution 9.

 

 

Believe it or not, my brother in-law passed away this past spring.  I was asked to make about 3 hours of music to play at his viewing.  The last song I put on the mix was "Goodnight" because he (also a big Beatles fan) had mentioned it as one of his favorite Beatles "deep cuts".  When it played, my older sister (perhaps the biggest Beatles fanatic I had ever known when we were growing up) said, "Oh my god, I almost forgot about this song...I probably haven't heard it in 30 years".  Another sister insisted it wasn't the Beatles said she had never heard it before (I know she has!)... sad the way the memory goes! 

 

Edited September 23, 2019 by Buftex

[The Real Buffalo Joe]

The few people who legitimately still hold to the Paul is Dead theory (you find some strange people on the internet), claim that Faul (Paul's replacement) was so adamant about Maxwell's Silver Hammer because it was written as a clue to the world that they're just killing people off like it's no big deal. 

[row_33]

19 minutes ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said:

The few people who legitimately still hold to the Paul is Dead theory (you find some strange people on the internet), claim that Faul (Paul's replacement) was so adamant about Maxwell's Silver Hammer because it was written as a clue to the world that they're just killing people off like it's no big deal. 

 

 

“I hate it. ‘Cuz all I remember is … he made us do it a hundred million times,” John said. “He did everything to make it into a single and it never was and it never could’ve been. He had somebody hitting iron pieces and we spent more money on that song than any of them in the whole album.”

 

 

 

thanks goodness for John and George's honest comment.

 

otherwise all we'd have is Paul saying "i wrote this in the nice chord, the pleasant one.... C major is it?  And it goes diddly diddly diddly dee and then diddly diddly diddly do, you know"

 

 

Edited September 23, 2019 by row_33

[The Real Buffalo Joe]

49 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

 

“I hate it. ‘Cuz all I remember is … he made us do it a hundred million times,” John said. “He did everything to make it into a single and it never was and it never could’ve been. He had somebody hitting iron pieces and we spent more money on that song than any of them in the whole album.”

 

 

 

thanks goodness for John and George's honest comment.

 

otherwise all we'd have is Paul saying "i wrote this in the nice chord, the pleasant one.... C major is it?  And it goes diddly diddly diddly dee and then diddly diddly diddly do, you know"

 

 

It isn't a terrible song. But not worth the effort. 

[row_33]

2 hours ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said:

It isn't a terrible song. But not worth the effort. 

 

a Paul granny song.

 

Paul was so impressed with his private reading that he wanted to get pataphysical into a song.

 

As a single this would have meshed well in timing with the Manson murders.

 

 

[Rico]

3 hours ago, row_33 said:

 

 

“I hate it. ‘Cuz all I remember is … he made us do it a hundred million times,” John said. “He did everything to make it into a single and it never was and it never could’ve been. He had somebody hitting iron pieces and we spent more money on that song than any of them in the whole album.”

 

 

 

thanks goodness for John and George's honest comment.

 

otherwise all we'd have is Paul saying "i wrote this in the nice chord, the pleasant one.... C major is it?  And it goes diddly diddly diddly dee and then diddly diddly diddly do, you know"

 

 

Macca is one of the all-time greats, but he’s also a twaat.

Edited September 23, 2019 by Rico