H2o Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 We had to win games to be in that position and we did that. If we had won the Carolina game we wouldn't have needed the Bengals. They didn't. Dalton and Boyd came through for us in our time of need. It wasn't all luck, but someone definitely smiled down on the Bills and all of us faithful that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted May 27, 2018 Author Share Posted May 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Nobody should read this the wrong way, but the drought would’ve been a whole lot shorter if the Bills didn’t have to play the Patriots twice a year. I’m not whining but the NE run over the past decade plus has been unprecedented and while I know you have to beat who they put on your schedule, I think you’d get the same reaction from Jets and Dolphin fans. Only two ways to beat the Pats, outgun them (Eagles) or knock Brady around like a pinball (Giants, Broncos). Since we've had meh offense and zero pass rush during the drought, it's understandable that NE has been routinely thrashing us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Red King said: Only two ways to beat the Pats, outgun them (Eagles) or knock Brady around like a pinball (Giants, Broncos). Since we've had meh offense and zero pass rush during the drought, it's understandable that NE has been routinely thrashing us. Lets not forget the “just give it to them” moments the bending aka “cheating” the rule book. Mysterious communication equipment failures. Mysterious extra time on tbe clock or missing time on the clock depending on who had the ball with under 2 minutes Gronk not getting ejected AND penalizing the Bills on that play!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted May 27, 2018 Author Share Posted May 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Lets not forget the “just give it to them” moments the bending aka “cheating” the rule book. Mysterious communication equipment failures. Mysterious extra time on tbe clock or missing time on the clock depending on who had the ball with under 2 minutes Gronk not getting ejected AND penalizing the Bills on that play!!! Yeah, but at the same time we had moments like fumbling the kickoff with the lead and two minutes left in regulation on MNF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 1 minute ago, The Red King said: Yeah, but at the same time we had moments like fumbling the kickoff with the lead and two minutes left in regulation on MNF. Yes those moments sucked. 3 or 4 WTF moments compared to a decade of cheating. Lets not forget 3 seasons of the worst passing offense in the AFC against one of the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 On 5/24/2018 at 1:33 PM, SoCal Deek said: The Bills did not 'luck' into the playoffs. I'm not sure who's been using that term. They did however 'slide', or often more often used "back" into the playoffs, when the Bengals won on New Year's Eve. This is a fact. When the Bills left the field in Miami, they were not in the playoffs. Their celebration occurred in the locker room, only after the Andy Dalton's touchdown toss over 1,000 miles north of Miami. That doesn't make the Bills playoff birth more or less important ...or 'luckier'...than any other team that's ever gotten in via a Tie Breaker. Correct. And it doesn't take a lot of luck to make the playoffs. The math is simple.......on average every team should make an appearance once every few years. Some top QB'd teams at the top skew that % but in general those last playoff spots are often in flux and it's not uncommon for the 8th or 9th best team to get in ahead of better teams that had a tougher schedule or got a bad bounce here or there. Being the last team in is the minimum amount of success needed. It's not a truly special accomplishment and it's not a travesty if by chance you didn't get in because of a tiebreaker. You barely belonged as it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, The Red King said: The Titans were also 9-7 last season. I don't hear anyone saying they were lucky. 9-7 is frequently good enough for a Wild Card. And again, it was a weak schedule that cost Baltimore a spot, we beat them out through strength of victory. Did you even read my OP? You're right, I missed the Titans. Point still stands, though. Seven teams go 9-7 and only two get lucky enough to get in the playoffs. Both of those not particularly good teams were lucky enough to come from the AFC. We were 9-7 in 2014 too but weren't lucky enough to have a weak enough AFC that year. And if you didn't hear anyone saying the Titans were lucky it's probably because nobody in Buffalo gives a crap about Tennessee. They were lucky. Pretty much any team that's 9-7 and makes the playoffs is by definition lucky. They were either in a very weak division or a very weak conference. And it's beside the point that Baltimore was another team not really good enough to make the playoffs and we happened to fulfill the conditions to make the playoffs better than them. If they'd made the playoffs, they'd have been lucky. The Bills weren't lucky to beat the Ravens. They were lucky there wasn't another good team in the weak AFC. Did you even read my post? We weren't just lucky to have a very weak schedule. We also got lucky even within that. Atlanta lost Julio in our game, they're 10-6 and three of their losses come in a row right when they have to play us and one of those losses is to us and another to the Dolphins. We got spectacularly lucky to get them right at their weakest. Same with the Chiefs, exactly, a 10-6 team that we caught during their only a three-game losing streak when they also lost to the Jets and the Giants, and again we get them right at their weakest. It wasn't a little lucky, we got very lucky. But pretty much any team that makes the playoffs at 9-7 is getting lucky. Edited May 27, 2018 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 (edited) Besides a 3 game meltdown the defense played well enough to get us into the playoffs and even advance past the Jaguars. I'm so glad we moved on from that offense last season. So terrible. Edited May 27, 2018 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFreeman22 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 They lucked in because they never should have punted in ot in the Indy game. They had to win, tie was just as bad as a lost, so, yes, they did get lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 "You are what your record says you are." Bill Parcels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 34 minutes ago, SteveFreeman22 said: They lucked in because they never should have punted in ot in the Indy game. They had to win, tie was just as bad as a lost, so, yes, they did get lucky. They won the snow game. What you are referencing has no bearing unless you say luck won that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 (edited) On 5/25/2018 at 7:23 PM, Teddy KGB said: 4th and 14 They should have executed more and made the playoffs themselves That Jets loss on Thursday Night was ugly. Playoff teams need to win those type of games. This team lost me at that point, before winning me back later in the season. With that said, it always takes some “luck” to get a wild card playoff berth. Edited May 27, 2018 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 24 minutes ago, Dopey said: "You are what your record says you are." Bill Parcels They’re what we thought they were. - Dennis Green 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Who cares if they did or didn’t? They ended the drought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted May 27, 2018 Author Share Posted May 27, 2018 31 minutes ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: That Jets loss on Thursday Night was ugly. Playoff teams need to win those type of games. This team lost me at that point, before winning me back later in the season. With that said, it always takes some “luck” to get a wild card playoff berth. Agreed. But saying it took some luck to get in is different to saying they were lucky to make it. Some people seem insistant on throwing out the efforts and accomplishments of that team, handwaving it away and crediting the playoff birth soley to luck...implying (or even saying) the Bills didn't deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 The Bills were lucky to have made the playoffs last season. They were in a pool of teams in the mediocre to slightly above average range. One or two of those teams have to make the playoffs along with the dominant ones. This year we got lucky and did enough to make it. Of course over the length of the playoff drought we had more than our share of bad luck in this regard. Statistically we should’ve made the playoffs 2 or 3 times over that span. The Bills certainly fielded more talented teams over that stretch. The best aspect of breaking the drought is that it’s going to give this regime some capital with the fans. They can take a step back and build this team they way they want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 On 5/24/2018 at 2:36 PM, no name said: no, but the bengals sure got lucky beating the ravens, no? had that not happened, this thread would never exist. snow game win (luckiest win I've ever seen) and bengals loss (most inconceivable loss I've ever seen) inconceivable in the same season. but hey they had some bad breaks during the season (i think?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 On 5/27/2018 at 9:09 AM, SoCal Deek said: Nobody should read this the wrong way, but the drought would’ve been a whole lot shorter if the Bills didn’t have to play the Patriots twice a year. I’m not whining but the NE run over the past decade plus has been unprecedented and while I know you have to beat who they put on your schedule, I think you’d get the same reaction from Jets and Dolphin fans. be grateful the Colts left the division or it would have been 0-4 against Brady and Peyton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 1 hour ago, 8-8 Forever? said: snow game win (luckiest win I've ever seen) and bengals loss (most inconceivable loss I've ever seen) inconceivable in the same season. but hey they had some bad breaks during the season (i think?) I disagree strongly. Snow game was heart. Looked like it was going to be a tie until Shady said "Oh, hell no!", tapped every reserve, and ripped off a game-winning run. That wasn't luck, that was determination and one player wanting it more then an entire defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 it had to happen eventually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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