Poll: Josh Allen Approval Rating

[Doc Brown]

1 minute ago, BillsFan692 said:

 

You just don't know that for sure man he was a highly rated prospect #2 on the board for some... What do you want? They took a shot and they didn't sell the farm

True.  My biggest fear before the draft was moving up to #2 for Allen and giving up three first round picks.  At least they didn't do that.

[Ol Dirty B]

Just now, John from Riverside said:

You’re an interesting poster you defend someone for insulting then you insult have another drink

 

You're not going to actually make me break down what you posted right?

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, No Cease Fires said:

 

I wasn't insulting anyone. I explained my reasoning. 

Did I misinterpret the part where you were telling people that they were drinking the Kool-Aid?

Edited April 27, 2018 by John from Riverside

[Hurricane Marv]

1 minute ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

Really? I feel like I saw the opposite. I thought they saw him as someone with a high ceiling, but it was a big risk believing he'd reach it. He had had all the physical skills athletically, but accuracy, and mentally was going to be a jump for him. I thought Kiper was getting killed by everyone, including Mcshay (probably manufactured though) because no one honestly believed he go one.

 

I believe you read this I just missed it and thought a lot of skepticism surrounded Allen the whole time. Here's to hoping we're all wrong who didnt believe.

 

What I thought too, but the top QBs have seemingly been a mish-mash of whatever order for months now, and I know sites like Barstool Sports and Sporting News were touting him as the top pick right up until last night.  There's been a lot of Josh Allen potential first pick commentary right alongside a good dose of criticism and "hold the !@#$ on this guy is a project" commentary, right up until his tweets really.  Reports have been all over the place, which reminds me very much of EJ, really, and in general doesn't leave me feeling good. 

 

I have no idea why we passed on the seemingly much more sure thing in Rosen.

[John from Riverside]

Just now, Ol Dirty B said:

 

You're not going to actually make me break down what you posted right?

I’m not sure you could if you tried

[{::'KayCeeS::}]

20 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

I'm confused. Who are all these people who love Allen?

 

I think he means NFL/football people- scouts, coaches, GM's, etc.

[Ol Dirty B]

30 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

If your gonna defend someone who says ppl are drinking koop aid for THEIR opinion then what you say to me means less then doo doo

 

20 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I’m not sure you could if you tried

 

Well here we go. First of all the poster you quoted just said that anyone who is defending the Allen pick is drinking kool aid (not koop aid, I'll touch on that later). He just merely accused people of being homers, and didn't even point to specific people. Yet you somehow took that post personally and claimed his was insulting people. How can he insult unnamed people? You're seeing the insult in it yourself, and it really isn't even an insult.

 

You're a homer, so what, quit being so sensitive about. So that's where I cover why the content of your post is stupid.

 

This is where I cover you're stupid because you can't write, like Josh Allen can't throw a football into Lake Erie.

 

If you're* gonna (whatever) defend someone who says ppl (just write people, what are you, 60?) are drinking koop (It's kool) aid for THEIR ( all capital letters is obnoxious, immature, just not a good sign of intelligence) opinion (again, he didn't call out anyone personally) then what you say to me means less then ( I know then vs than can be confusing) doo doo ( I only wish I had a way with words like you).

 

Shut up when you talk to me.

Edited April 27, 2018 by Ol Dirty B

[BruceVilanch]

I really hope he justifies the pick, there is something to be said when someone has generational arm talent, but it's a matter of improving his footwork and accuracy. Hopefully his arm strength can make up for some of his other shortfalls. Either way Go Bills

[Ol Dirty B]

15 minutes ago, {::'KayCeeS::} said:

 

I think he means NFL/football people- scouts, coaches, GM's, etc.

 

Fair enough could be. I find it hard to discern what is truthful with them and what isn't. It's a lot like poker, because they may have claimed to like him, but didn't. And what good does it do to show their cards afterwards and say they were the bluffing.

 

This is why the draft is exhausting to me, I think about everything from 1000 different angles. It's also why I hate poker lol. 

[What a Tuel]

1 hour ago, Awwufelloff said:

From the Jets board. Pretty much how I feel. Every single NFL forum message board is laughing at us for taking Allen. Beane did not address how to fix his accuracy in the interview. Might need a new management team.

 

"The stars aligned for us in many ways tonight. 

Darnold fell in our laps.

Buffalo took Allen.

And just as Miami is licking their chops, Arizona sweeps in and takes Rosen, forcing Miami to take a safety lol

Couldn't have written tonight any better, IMO"

 

"If I had to hand pick a QB for the Bills to struggle with for the next 5 years it would be Allen."

 

"Josh Allen to the Bills was just a bonus pick for the Jets."

 

 

I would have preferred Darnold, but the Jets aren't in any position to criticize anyone. 

 

The fact is though that going by fans on message boards is a bad idea.

[Boatdrinks]

42 minutes ago, Hurricane Marv said:

 

What I thought too, but the top QBs have seemingly been a mish-mash of whatever order for months now, and I know sites like Barstool Sports and Sporting News were touting him as the top pick right up until last night.  There's been a lot of Josh Allen potential first pick commentary right alongside a good dose of criticism and "hold the !@#$ on this guy is a project" commentary, right up until his tweets really.  Reports have been all over the place, which reminds me very much of EJ, really, and in general doesn't leave me feeling good. 

 

I have no idea why we passed on the seemingly much more sure thing in Rosen.

Oh, I don't think the reports on EJ were all over the place. They were mostly the same place, middle rounds maybe . His own coach questioned if he was even draftable. Kipers final mock before that draft had zero QBs going in round 1. I don't like this pick , but I can tell the guy is a better prospect than EJ. That's not a real high bar, to be sure. But Manuel cannot throw like an NFL QB. Allen is better than EJ, much better. He may flop, and Rosen might too. I would have picked the safer choice in Rosen, but the Bills clearly didn't want him. 

[BuffaloBillsGospel]

1 hour ago, No Cease Fires said:

 

Tools, yes. But he hasn't shown he knows what to do with them. Kinda like some other Bills QB picks I don't need to mention.

 

Look, I really hope he's a star, and of course there's a chance he will be. But looking at the history of college QBs with less than 60 percent accuracy, those chances aren't good. That's the truth. So if I were a betting man, I would bet on him to bust. And that's just playing the percentages. The only way I would bet on him to be a star is if I had a whole ton of faith in a regime that has given me no reason to have said faith when it comes to the QB position. Hence the Kool-aid.

 

Again I'm not sure what you mean when you say he doesn't know how to use the tools he has? He took a terrible Wyoming team and turned them into a winning program, last year he literally took a terrible offense and put them on his back/arm and won games. He has issues with accuracy but with help he can correct things, Brett favre, Matthew Stafford and even our own ex QB Tyrod taylor all had QB rating in the mid to low 50's (Stafford finally got to 60% his senior year). I'm not trying to get into a pissing contest I'm just not understanding other than his comp % why people have such a problem with him.

[reddogblitz]

My nightmare scenario was trading up for Josh Allen. I'm not sure you trade up for a project. I'm also not sure accuracy  is something that can be fixed.

 

But he's Bill now so if I'm all in.  voted he's going to be a star.

 

Great situation for him being drafted by a playoff team with no incumbent starter.

Edited April 27, 2018 by reddogblitz

[BuffaloTX]

Just glad they didn't take Rosen, even at 12. Love the two picks today choosing players who have the chance to become GREAT, over players who are good now but keep us at 8-8 each year. Loving the future of this team. I don't give one %$@# if Buffalo sucks this year, I trust the process. 

[26TrapDraw]

4 hours ago, No Cease Fires said:

 

I'm not saying he won't turn out to be a star, I hope he does. But to predict that TODAY when every conceivable metric says nuh-uh, well, you're riding on faith and little else. 

LMAO that's the dumbest take ever. Dude hasn't even played a down.

[T-Bomb]

6 hours ago, BuffaloRush said:

I think we’ll look back on this night as a huge misstep. 

 

As per usual, this franchise is in no better hands with Pegula than it was with Ralph.

7 minutes ago, BeefCurtns said:

LMAO that's the dumbest take ever. Dude hasn't even played a down.

 

Neither did EJ Manuel the night he was drafted, smart fans knew what we were getting...

[26TrapDraw]

1 minute ago, T-Bomb said:

 

As per usual, this franchise is in no better hands with Pegula than it was with Ralph.

 

Neither did EJ Manuel the night he was drafted, smart fans knew what we were getting...

So when do you take over as an NFL executive?

[T-Bomb]

4 minutes ago, BeefCurtns said:

So when do you take over as an NFL executive?

 

So when is your next sip of KoolAid?

 

So fans are never right about draft picks, ever?  Right?

 

FO's are never wrong?  Right?

 

You were a guy probably hoping EJ Manuel was the next franchise QB right?

[26TrapDraw]

2 minutes ago, T-Bomb said:

 

So when is your next sip of KoolAid?

 

So fans are never right about draft picks, ever?  Right?

 

FO's are never wrong?  Right?

 

You were a guy probably hoping EJ Manuel was the next franchise QB right?

Your entitled to your opinion. You may be disappointed with the pick but the doom and gloom is a dumb take when the kid hasn't played one second yet. 

[Real McClappy]

Should the Bills double up like Wash in the past on Falk, White or Lauletta?