DriveFor1Outta5 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I fully expect Tyrod to have success in Cleveland. He has weapons and is 1,000,000,000x better than anyone that they’ve run out there since they came back into the league. I would expect Baker to take the reigns at some point though. While Tyrod is better today than anyone on our roster today te Bills are trying to go forward. They have reached decent. Now they want to get to good. The Browns are trying to reach decent. It’s just a different situation. Allen will dictate whether or not the team goes forward or back. I don’t expect Allen to have Andy Dalton’s career. He’s going to be a star or a bust IMO. If Tyrod has “success”, why is Mayfield going to take the reigns this season? Not a criticism, I’m just trying to pick your brain on this logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 No one expects the team to be good this year, its all about building for the future. The Tyrod trade got us Edmunds and Teller. They're way more important to our future than he would have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: If Tyrod has “success”, why is Mayfield going to take the reigns this season? Not a criticism, I’m just trying to pick your brain on this logic. It could happen but since you seem positive show me your source saying Tyrod isn't the starter as of right now. Every source I've seen says Taylor is the starter. Edited April 29, 2018 by Maine-iac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Maine-iac said: It could happen but since you seem positive show me your source saying Tyrod isn't the starter as of right now. Every source I've seen says Taylor is the starter. Where did I say that Tyrod isn’t the starter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: Success with Tyrod in Cleveland is playing .200 ball. I think that they win AT LEAST 6 games (I have them at 8-8). They are much better today than a year ago (but still have Hue). 3 minutes ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: If Tyrod has “success”, why is Mayfield going to take the reigns this season? Not a criticism, I’m just trying to pick your brain on this logic. I’m saying late in the season. They’ll be much more competitive but not in the playoffs. The last few weeks they’ll run their future out there and see what happens. Tyrod has raised their floor and it will be up to Baker to determine their ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I think that they win AT LEAST 6 games (I have them at 8-8). They are much better today than a year ago (but still have Hue). I’m saying late in the season. They’ll be much more competitive but not in the playoffs. The last few weeks they’ll run their future out there and see what happens. Tyrod has raised their floor and it will be up to Baker to determine their ceiling. That makes sense. If Tyrod has them in the playoff chase, he isn’t going to be benched for Mayfield. If Tyrod plays well but they still aren’t in the playoff hunt, they will definitely want to see what Mayfield can do. Edited April 29, 2018 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 48 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I was never a big Tyrod guy but he is the better qb of anyone on the Bills roster. Still, it was time to move on and it was pretty lucky to get a 3rd for him. I just wish we drafted a different guy. Couldn't disagree more. IDK what the Browns brass says, IMO Mayfield will be starting week 1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: Where did I say that Tyrod isn’t the starter? If Tyrod has “success”, why is Mayfield going to take the reigns this season? If you ask why Mayfield will become starter you are saying Taylor will not be the starter. If you know this then show the source or is it just your opinion? Like I said it could happen but you don't know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said: That makes sense. If Tyrod has them in the playoff chase, he isn’t going to be benched for Mayfield. If Tyrod plays well but they still aren’t in the playoff hunt, they will definitely want to see what Mayfield can do. You are right Mayfield should definately end up starting at some point. I just haven't seen anything saying it in black and white yet. It would be funny if Taylor gets traded to Denver. Everyone rumored him going there at one point. I just wish things weren't so bleak, Allen excluded obviously he's got huge potential, on the offensive side. Coaching is an unknown, OL is pretty unsettled, and our pass catchers are way below par. Actually the QB position on offense might be the least upsetting going into next season. I like Allen and McCarron. Just now, DriveFor1Outta5 said: If I ask someone else why THEY think Mayfield will become the starter at some point this season, how does that indicate I believe Tyrod is not the starter? You didn't ask why, as in the reason, you asked why the event was going to happen period. As in it will happen and you know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Just now, Maine-iac said: You are right Mayfield should definately end up starting at some point. I just haven't seen anything saying it in black and white yet. It would be funny if Taylor gets traded to Denver. Everyone rumored him going there at one point. I just wish things weren't so bleak, Allen excluded obviously he's got huge potential, on the offensive side. Coaching is an unknown, OL is pretty unsettled, and our pass catchers are way below par. Actually the QB position on offense might be the least upsetting going into next season. I like Allen and McCarron. Absolutely, whoever starts at QB for us is going to be thrown into a brutal situation. Our offense really isn’t set up to allow anyone the opportunity to succeed at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Maine-iac said: You are right Mayfield should definately end up starting at some point. I just haven't seen anything saying it in black and white yet. It would be funny if Taylor gets traded to Denver. Everyone rumored him going there at one point. I just wish things weren't so bleak, Allen excluded obviously he's got huge potential, on the offensive side. Coaching is an unknown, OL is pretty unsettled, and our pass catchers are way below par. Actually the QB position on offense might be the least upsetting going into next season. I like Allen and McCarron. Can only do so much at a time. We free up a ton of cap space next season. Expect the Bills O to receive a full overhaul and lots of loving next offseason via draft and FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: It could happen but since you seem positive show me your source saying Tyrod isn't the starter as of right now. Every source I've seen says Taylor is the starter. 13 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: If Tyrod has “success”, why is Mayfield going to take the reigns this season? If you ask why Mayfield will become starter you are saying Taylor will not be the starter. If you know this then show the source or is it just your opinion? Like I said it could happen but you don't know that. context is your friend. the reply you are responding to was in response to Kirby's contention that Mayfield would,'take the reigns' at some point during the season. 7 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: You are right Mayfield should definately end up starting at some point. I just haven't seen anything saying it in black and white yet. It would be funny if Taylor gets traded to Denver. Everyone rumored him going there at one point. I just wish things weren't so bleak, Allen excluded obviously he's got huge potential, on the offensive side. Coaching is an unknown, OL is pretty unsettled, and our pass catchers are way below par. Actually the QB position on offense might be the least upsetting going into next season. I like Allen and McCarron. You didn't ask why, as in the reason, you asked why the event was going to happen period. As in it will happen and you know it. just a thought but.... maybe you would like to go to the Browns playground as that is where your obvious savior is now playing. Edited April 29, 2018 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Hahahaha, this board is morphing into the old bills board right in front of my eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, Foxx said: context is your friend. the reply you are responding to was in response to Kirby's contention that Mayfield would,'take the reigns' at some point during the season. just a thought but.... maybe you would like to go to the Browns playground as that is where your obvious savior is now playing. Point A you are right, I missed that. Point B I have suggestions where you can go play but I'll do what you should have and keep them to myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Maine-iac said: Point A you are right, I missed that. Point B I have suggestions where you can go play but I'll do what you should have and keep them to myself. i apologize for my last point, i'm sorry. in defense though, it just seems that you will go to any lengths to defend Tyrod. i mean, you are going on about him possibly being traded to Denver. i'm sorry but Tyrod is what he is and that is just not ever going to change. he is a good upstanding young man that tries hard, is a good teammate but is not really a starting qb in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Nothing has changed. I liked him when he was here and I like him in Cleveland. You are allowed to not like him as much as I'm allowed to like him. I liked Fred and Stevie and continued to like them when they left. So the difference here really is that you don't like him therefore you don't like me posting about it. It is in a thread that I didn't create and is titled about him. I'm not creating threads saying we are doomed because we let Tyrod go. I actually think our QB situation has a lot of potential with both McCarron and Allen. Every other part of the offense, aside from McCoy, is a nightmare and I'm not sold on the OC choice and I don't feel like waiting 3 seasons find out if we gambled and won/lost. I am sick of not being competitive and trust the process doesn't cut it for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: Nothing has changed. I liked him when he was here and I like him in Cleveland. You are allowed to not like him as much as I'm allowed to like him. I liked Fred and Stevie and continued to like them when they left. So the difference here really is that you don't like him therefore you don't like me posting about it. It is in a thread that I didn't create and is titled about him. I'm not creating threads saying we are doomed because we let Tyrod go. I actually think our QB situation has a lot of potential with both McCarron and Allen. Every other part of the offense, aside from McCoy, is a nightmare and I'm not sold on the OC choice and I don't feel like waiting 3 seasons find out if we gambled and won/lost. I am sick of not being competitive and trust the process doesn't cut it for me. two things... all i will say is that i like to live in reality. as to your last sentence, if it doesn't cut it for you, what are you going to do? piss and moan? Beane is not stupid. he understands that, for better or worse, his future is tied to Allen. he had a choice between Rosen and Allen. he could have aken the safer choice and selected Rosen which in all likelyhood would have secured his job for at least the next decade. so him taking Allen says a bit to me. it says that he believes Allen has a greater potential and that there is a real good chance that he can realize that potential. it also tells me that when all is said and done, that he believes Allen will have the better career. another thing it potentially says is that beane is not afraid to go after what he believes and i like that. could he be wrong, sure. i am often wrong but this is what i choose to believe the tea leaves are saying right now. McBeane took a ragtag team to the playoffs last season, better than any regime has done in the previous 17 years. for that reason alone they get my vote of confidence and will for the forseeable future. i am not expecting much this coming year, i think the real advancement will be in '19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ngbills Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 2 hours ago, T master said: There is one big difference AJ reads the D much better & faster than Tyrod so with that being said AJ being more accurate between the hash marks in the middle of the field along with making the decision with his anticipation of a WR or TE coming open will have & has proven to have a higher completion percentage . Tyrod took a lot more sacks & had to run more because he was slower at reading the D . We have all seen during the time Tyrod was our QB players that were open & he didn't see them coming open or didn't have the confidence in what he was seeing to throw into the window given . AJ has (any time I've watched him) shown a Brady like awareness of the field . Says who? He showed this when? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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