whatdrought Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 6:33 PM, Reed83HOF said: Rosen & Baker can start right away.... Expand Right, I agree... I meant with regards to our specific situation if the Bills drafted him. How would you want to see that handled?
RochesterRob Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 5:55 PM, YoloinOhio said: I didn’t literally mean “around me” like it was only my neighborhood. It was anecdotal, not meant to be a statistic, so sample size was not a concern with the example but it pertained to Central Ohio, since you referenced “middle America.” I do in fact interact with people outside my “neighborhood.” My point was that the NBA is growing in popularity despite its acceptance of players having a voice. And that the NFL should take note - maybe their ratings would actually benefit. https://www.google.com/amp/amp.awfulannouncing.com/nba/nba-ratings-rise-younger-viewers.html Expand I got what you meant. We all see what we see based on our surroundings. Resorting to a more neutral source I don't see the NBA talked about hardly at all and certainly far less than the NFL, MLB, NHL, IL (triple A), AHL and down the line on any of the local news sportscasts. In any event we are only two people in the scheme of things. We have both have had our say so no hard feelings here.
YoloinOhio Posted April 17, 2018 Author Posted April 17, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 6:30 PM, Reed83HOF said: Okay I will bite... Faith has no part of government; in the US it is supposed to be separate at least... What exactly is a Jewish atheist? Well shady is a different shade compared to Rosen? Just a thought... Expand He’s an atheist now but was born into the Jewish religion. He later decided he didn’t identify with the religion.
Reed83HOF Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 6:34 PM, whatdrought said: Right, I agree... I meant with regards to our specific situation if the Bills drafted him. How would you want to see that handled? Expand Depends on how bad the OL is I would expect that it would come down to camp and the preseason - if they are close, you go with the rook. If the rook needs a little more time, AJ buys you that... I do think that if we end up with either of these 2, they will be starting at some point this year. The rest would only play due to injury, but possibly even back up Nate in the event of an injury...
Nineforty Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 6:30 PM, Reed83HOF said: Okay I will bite... Faith has no part of government; in the US it is supposed to be separate at least... What exactly is a Jewish atheist? Well shady is a different shade compared to Rosen? Just a thought... Expand Someone please correct me if I'm wrong as I am not Jewish but being a Jew can mean ethnicity , nationality, and religion... So you could be a Jewish atheist (he is agnostic not atheist) ... In 2 different ways actually...
whatdrought Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 6:37 PM, Reed83HOF said: Depends on how bad the OL is I would expect that it would come down to camp and the preseason - if they are close, you go with the rook. If the rook needs a little more time, AJ buys you that... I do think that if we end up with either of these 2, they will be starting at some point this year. The rest would only play due to injury, but possibly even back up Nate in the event of an injury... Expand If Maccarron is serviceable (which I understand is a big "if" and is up for interpretation) and we can win games, I would rather the rookie sit all year, no matter who it is.
Reed83HOF Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 6:37 PM, YoloinOhio said: He’s an atheist now but was born into the Jewish religion. He later decided he didn’t identify with the religion. Expand So he is an atheist, not a Jewish atheist. I was raised & born into Catholicism, but I am simply an atheist now... Jewish Athiest is like saying it's night & day outside at the same time...
Nineforty Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 6:37 PM, YoloinOhio said: He’s an atheist now but was born into the Jewish religion. He later decided he didn’t identify with the religion. Expand Agnostic
whatdrought Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 6:39 PM, Reed83HOF said: So he is an atheist, not a Jewish atheist. I was raised & born into Catholicism, but I am simply an atheist now... Jewish Athiest is like saying it's night & day outside at the same time... Expand Not actually, because being Jewish is ethnic and nationalistic as well.
YoloinOhio Posted April 17, 2018 Author Posted April 17, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 6:37 PM, Nineforty said: Someone please correct me if I'm wrong as I am not Jewish but being a Jew can mean ethnicity , nationality, and religion... So you could be a Jewish atheist (he is agnostic not atheist) ... In 2 different ways actually... Expand He said he was atheist
Nineforty Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 6:39 PM, Reed83HOF said: So he is an atheist, not a Jewish atheist. I was raised & born into Catholicism, but I am simply an atheist now... Jewish Athiest is like saying it's night & day outside at the same time... Expand While you are right, you are also wrong...I think.
whatdrought Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_atheism Not that Wikipedia is the best source. But here is an explanation. Edited April 17, 2018 by whatdrought
YoloinOhio Posted April 17, 2018 Author Posted April 17, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 6:39 PM, Nineforty said: Agnostic Expand http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/05/21/one-of-the-top-college-football-prospects-in-the-country-is-an-atheist-and-he-attends-a-catholic-high-school/
Nineforty Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 6:40 PM, YoloinOhio said: He said he was atheist Expand He may have at one point, maybe even recently but the latest espn mag interview he says agnostic. His views may have changed.
Reed83HOF Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 6:37 PM, Nineforty said: Someone please correct me if I'm wrong as I am not Jewish but being a Jew can mean ethnicity , nationality, and religion... So you could be a Jewish atheist (he is agnostic not atheist) ... In 2 different ways actually... Expand That's like calling me an Italian atheist. You may have a point if he was born in Israel, but at the end of the day, it does sound like he is agnostic...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 5:52 PM, K-9 said: Do any of the same people worried about Rosen's "political" views have the same concerns about Shady? He straight up called our president an A-hole on twitter, for all the world to see and I don't recall the same concerns being expressed about McCoy afterward. Expand QB's get judged by a different standard. Every position other than QB you're allowed to have a personality. They scrub it out of QB's early lol. 1
YoloinOhio Posted April 17, 2018 Author Posted April 17, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 6:44 PM, Reed83HOF said: That's like calling me an Italian atheist. You may have a point if he was born in Israel, but at the end of the day, it does sound like he is agnostic... Expand And his mother is Christian
Sky Diver Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 4:02 PM, SouthNYfan said: But... Does Charles Barkley like him? What about Nick saban? Expand You forgot Chris Carter. You're falling down on the job.
whatdrought Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 6:44 PM, Reed83HOF said: That's like calling me an Italian atheist. You may have a point if he was born in Israel, but at the end of the day, it does sound like he is agnostic... Expand If you're Italian, and you don't believe in god, than that would be factually correct.... He is Jewish, and may or may not believe in god. So the fact that he is a Jewish atheist/agnostic is factually correct. 1
starrymessenger Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 6:30 PM, Reed83HOF said: Okay I will bite... Faith has no part of government; in the US it is supposed to be separate at least... What exactly is a Jewish atheist? Expand What I was trying to say was that as in government religious affiliation should be irrelevant as far as football is concerned (at least that's my opinion, as well as my understanding of the Constitution). So I think we are on the same page there. Sorry if that was not clear. I gather that Rosen is (at least at this stage in his life) agnostic and not an atheist. Be that as it may, a Jewish atheist would be a Jew who does not believe in God but who nevertheless otherwise identifies with and is in part a product of Jewish culture. Obviously I don't know the guy but my understanding is that Rosen was raised as a Jew and continues to identify with the community he grew up in, even though he is not religious. 1
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