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Just now, DriveFor1Outta5 said:

Yep, and if we stay at 12, not getting a franchise QB will be the end of the Beane regime.  

I can't imagine McBeane would trade down the year before while passing on Mahomes and Watson, trade Sammy Watkins, trade Darby, trade Cordy Glenn, trade Tyrod Taylor and NOT trade up and insure they got the QB they want. 

 

It would be an absolute disaster.

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20 minutes ago, BadLandsMeanie said:

So the Jets have played their cards too soon which leaves  Beane with a small advantage. Beane still has the option to trade up if the guy he wants is there at 2. 

 

So do the Jets. They could trade up with that #3 pick with Giants or even Browns. Personally I hope they go full Ditka and trade all of the picks plus picks from next year to trade up.

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2 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

For back up money...

 

We are drafting a QB. 

Yes we are, but it looks like at 12. Once again, the Bills might fail to make the move necessary for a top QB. Very reminiscent of Losman and Manuel. I’m just very skeptical now. We had more to offer the Colts than the Jets did. It looks like Beane might really be staying at 12. It would be a big mistake imo. You don’t trade away half your franchise to stay at number 12, hoping someone falls to you. Cordy Glenn is a talent lineman, they don’t come around everyday. In my opinion, you better end up with a top QB when you mortgaged the present for a better future. 

2 minutes ago, baskingridgebillsfan said:

if he stays at 12 and crushes the next 5 picks he will be fine or if the second qb ***** the bed he will be fine.   lots of cards left to be played 

No, you still need a franchise QB . Those next five picks aren’t going to win a Super Bowl with McCarron under center. 

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20 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

Pretty sure the Jets tried getting to 2 first. The Giants probably don’t want to trade out or are asking for something unreasonable to make it happen. I don’t see how this is an advantage for us since the Giants can either stay put at 2 or bend us over the table since they know we need to jump the Jets.

Or Gettleman has already agreed to give it to Beane.

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I had a thought. What if the Jets are playing 4d chess?

 

Think about it.. that team has more holes than a dollar store umbrella. 

 

They just signed 2 solid quarterbacks in McCown and Bridgewater. 

 

What if they took the third pick...but have it open to trades to acquire more picks in the first round? 

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1 minute ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said:

Yes we are, but it looks like at 12. Once again, the Bills might fail to make the move necessary for a top QB. Very reminiscent of Losman and Manuel. I’m just very skeptical now. We had more to offer the Colts than the Jets did. It looks like Beane might really be staying at 12. It would be a big mistake imo. You don’t trade away half your franchise to stay at number 12, hoping someone falls to you. Cordy Glenn is a talent lineman, they don’t come around everyday. In my opinion, you better end up with a top QB when you mortgaged the present for a better future. 

 

Half your franchise?  Exaggerate much?

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7 minutes ago, Elite Poster said:

Yeah, huge mistake. 

 

If this QB hits. 20 years of Brady, then however many years of this guy. 

 

Yep, AJ McCarron though, guys!

I think you are missing the point that nothing is stopping another team that has a Qb in mind wont just make a trade to 2.  Buffalo has the firepower to do it.  They could be targeting the same guy and now Buffalo know if they want him they have to go to 2 for him.  If the jets waited they could have snuck in and possibly got him at 3 if the Giants were too expensive for Buffalo taste.  now there is no surprise the Jets are taking a Qb.  If the browns dont take the one they like they know the giants is the only way.  

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1 minute ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

I had a thought. What if the Jets are playing 4d chess?

 

Think about it.. that team has more holes than a dollar store umbrella. 

 

They just signed 2 solid quarterbacks in McCown and Bridgewater. 

 

What if they took the third pick...but have it open to trades to acquire more picks in the first round? 

There are no “poker faces” when it comes to needing a franchise QB. It’s just something that you have to attempt to find.  GM’s get fired for not finding a QB who wins. 

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Whatever happens I don't think we'll know until draft day. That's what really surprises me about this trade, that it happened today. Why would the Jets show their hand like that?

 

I could see a scenario where we already have a deal in place to get Foles, and we like a QB that will be available at 22. That leaves pick 12 for a player that will immediately contribute. Not saying that's exactly what will happen but I am sure Beane already has a contingency plan in mind.

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3 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

So do the Jets. They could trade up with that #3 pick with Giants or even Browns. Personally I hope they go full Ditka and trade all of the picks plus picks from next year to trade up.

The jets would have to cripple themselves to move up any further. If the Giants are in win now mode 12-22 56 and 65 would be the ticket plus a high pick in 2019.  The Jets cant compete with that offer.  

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Just now, DriveFor1Outta5 said:

Tyrod, Watkins, Glenn, Darby just to name a few. I thought the point of that capital would be to draft the QB of their choice . 

They got other players they wanted and extra picks.     Fortunately I think our GM plays chess while you struggle at checkers.  Maybe you should try tic tac toe but take my advice and let other player go first.

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2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Whatever happens I don't think we'll know until draft day. That's what really surprises me about this trade, that it happened today. Why would the Jets show their hand like that?

 

I could see a scenario where we already have a deal in place to get Foles, and we like a QB that will be available at 22. That leaves pick 12 for a player that will immediately contribute. Not saying that's exactly what will happen but I am sure Beane already has a contingency plan in mind.

I wouldn’t like that idea, but it seems possible. With that said, they would have had to keep it secret from McCarron. He wouldn’t have signed here if Foles were a possibility. 

1 minute ago, Looper said:

Why would the Bills move up to #2 to take a guy that would rather be somewhere else ? Take Jackson at #12 and use the other picks to fill holes.

Take Jackson or Allen and Beane will be looking for new employment in three years. 

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IMHO ... The Bills will want to trade up to #2 ... they will inquire ... they will wheel and deal .... BUT

 

Beane & McDermott will NOT change their philosophy, they will not let the Giants bend them over a table. If the Giants ask more than the Bills feel the trade up is worth, the Bills will walk away. You never know ... the Giants may offer a good deal, the QB that the Bills like could fall below pick #3 and a trade up will be addressed again ... or ... the Bills take BPA at #12 and wait for a QB whose value matches our draft spot.

 

As much as I WANT our top graded QB this draft, sometimes it's just not in the cards ... it will be fun to see what the Bills do between now and pick #12.

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25 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said:

I think Beane saw an opportunity to shed salary and move up in the draft with Glenn.

 

There is a very strong possibility that move didn't entail him automatically moving up as was assumed.

 

That's the real reason everyone is disappointed. Everyone assumed the Glenn trade was the start of a big trade up for a QB, so now that it didn't happen it's disappointing. But that was always just speculation. We've been trying to trade Glenn since last season. We found a good deal and took it. It didn't mean anything else beyond that.

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5 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

I think you are missing the point that nothing is stopping another team that has a Qb in mind wont just make a trade to 2.  Buffalo has the firepower to do it.  They could be targeting the same guy and now Buffalo know if they want him they have to go to 2 for him.  If the jets waited they could have snuck in and possibly got him at 3 if the Giants were too expensive for Buffalo taste.  now there is no surprise the Jets are taking a Qb.  If the browns dont take the one they like they know the giants is the only way.  

 

So how did the Jets make a mistake? That was the point that I thought was being made. What did I miss?

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1 minute ago, Looper said:

Why would the Bills move up to #2 to take a guy that would rather be somewhere else ? Take Jackson at #12 and use the other picks to fill holes.

This.  The chance we move to 2 - or that the giants want to - are slim.  

 

Lets build a team team with the picks we have in a deep draft.

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