YoloinOhio Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, wppete said: 4.67 40 time. Looks faster on tape and moves great and afressive. I like him if we can get him in the 4th or 5th rounds. I think he looks even slower in games 5th rd would be about right Edited March 5, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think he looks even slower in games 5th rd would be about right He also looked stiff not fluid in the drills at the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CountDorkula Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Another year of the NFL Combine being the most overrated money grab the NFL has ever created. Kudos, to you NFL, kudos to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: Another year of the NFL Combine being the most overrated money grab the NFL has ever created. Kudos, to you NFL, kudos to you. It's more entertaining than the Pro Bowl in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: It's more entertaining than the Pro Bowl in my opinion. That's not really saying much though... Prety much anything is more entertaining than the pro bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: That's not really saying much though... Prety much anything is more entertaining than the pro bowl Agreed. I think it's incredibly sad that such an entertaining sport can't figure out an entertaining all-star feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 32 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: Another year of the NFL Combine being the most overrated money grab the NFL has ever created. Kudos, to you NFL, kudos to you. How is it a money grab? I actually fail to see how they don't lose money on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 Back to actual combine stuff... Jaire Alexander looking really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Back to actual combine stuff... Jaire Alexander looking really good. And not so much for Josh Jackson. I just don’t see the round 1 hype there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: And not so much for Josh Jackson. I just don’t see the round 1 hype there. What do you not like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, jrober38 said: What do you not like? Looked really out of place in drills. Didn’t seem to know how to backpedal. Hips looked stiff. CB movement doesn’t appear natural. Ball hawk in college but he’s probably a scheme specific guy. Edited March 5, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Looked really out of place in drills. Didn’t seem to know how to backpedal. Hips looked stiff. CB movement doesn’t appear natural. Ball hawk in college but he’s probably a scheme specific guy. Definitely. He's a Cover 2 corner who will excel in a scheme that uses a lot of zone which allows him to keep his eyes in the backfield. I don't put much stock in any of the combine. I think it's a good way to test athleticism, and can be particularly effective in projecting the success of pass rushers, but the drills are pretty much useless in my eyes. For example, Harold Landry is almost certainly going to make an elite 3-4 outside linebacker. His test scores are outstanding, and in 2-3 years I'll bet he's posting 10+ sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Ittakestime said: How is it a money grab? I actually fail to see how they don't lose money on it. https://www.forbes.com/sites/darrenheitner/2013/02/21/the-economics-of-the-nfl-combine/#569b87f7385e Sponsors, air-time, ads, etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Did anyone see during the d-back workout that they quoted coach McD as saying he looks for safeties that have played baseball and Poyer and Hyde both played baseball at a high level and it helps them track the ball. Interesting but not sure why he is giving away his secrets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 hour ago, kdiggz said: Did anyone see during the d-back workout that they quoted coach McD as saying he looks for safeties that have played baseball and Poyer and Hyde both played baseball at a high level and it helps them track the ball. Interesting but not sure why he is giving away his secrets! Maybe it's not a secret? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Maybe it's not a secret? Well not anymore! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 5 hours ago, CountDorkula said: https://www.forbes.com/sites/darrenheitner/2013/02/21/the-economics-of-the-nfl-combine/#569b87f7385e Sponsors, air-time, ads, etc etc The article told me nothing. Who pays for the players to get to combine? Is lucas oil stadium free and are the staff working for free too? Who is paying for the insurance? I didn't see many sponsors anywhere. How many more people watch the network than a normal 5 day span? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 Final list of combine participants that tested in the red: Saquon Barkley - RB/Penn State Nick Chubb - RB/Georgia Mike Gesicki - TE/Penn State Quenton Nelson - OG/Notre Dame Braden Smith - OG/Auburn Bradley Chubb - EDGE/NC State Obo Okoronkwo - EDGE/Oklahoma Kylie Fitts - EDGE/Utah Taven Bryan - DL/Florida James Looney - DL/California Harrison Phillips - DT/Stanford Foley Fatukasi - DT/UConn Malik Jefferson - LB/Texas Genard Avery - LB/Memphis Leon Jacobs - LB/Wisconsin Derwin James - S/Florida State Dane Cruikshank - S/Arizona Natrell Jamerson - S/Wisconsin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: Final list of combine participants that tested in the red: Saquon Barkley - RB/Penn State Nick Chubb - RB/Georgia Mike Gesicki - TE/Penn State Quenton Nelson - OG/Notre Dame Braden Smith - OG/Auburn Bradley Chubb - EDGE/NC State Obo Okoronkwo - EDGE/Oklahoma Kylie Fitts - EDGE/Utah Taven Bryan - DL/Florida James Looney - DL/California Harrison Phillips - DT/Stanford Foley Fatukasi - DT/UConn Malik Jefferson - LB/Texas Genard Avery - LB/Memphis Leon Jacobs - LB/Wisconsin Derwin James - S/Florida State Dane Cruikshank - S/Arizona Natrell Jamerson - S/Wisconsin Taven Bryan is a freak athlete. He's the same type of athlete as JJ Watt. If we can get him at the end of round 1 I think we'd be getting a steal who could be a real difference maker in a year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Taven Bryan is a freak athlete. He's the same type of athlete as JJ Watt. If we can get him at the end of round 1 I think we'd be getting a steal who could be a real difference maker in a year or two. If we do not trade our 2 1sts for a QB, and Taven Bryan checks out as an effort/McD sort of player and he is available then he would certainly be hard to pass up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Magox said: If we do not trade our 2 1sts for a QB, and Taven Bryan checks out as an effort/McD sort of player and he is available then he would certainly be hard to pass up. Calling him an effort player sells him short. The guy is a freak of nature, much like JJ Watt was. His effort and motor will prove to be a bonus in the grand scheme of things. Give him some NFL calibre coaching, and let him learn with Kyle Williams for a year (assuming we bring him back on a one year deal) and in a couple years Bryan could be an All Pro DT. Edited March 6, 2018 by jrober38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: Calling him an effort player sells him short. The guy is a freak of nature, much like JJ Watt was. His effort and motor will prove to be a bonus in the grand scheme of things. Give him some NFL calibre coaching, and let him learn with Kyle Williams for a year (assuming we bring him back on a one year deal) and in a couple years Bryan could be an All Pro DT. I was talking in the context that his athleticism was a given. I don't believe Beane/Mcd will select anyone that isn't an effort sort of player. With Tavens freakish athleticism if he passes the Mcd/Beane effort/team player mentality they are seeking he will be awfully hard to pass up on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Magox said: I was talking in the context that his athleticism was a given. I don't believe Beane/Mcd will select anyone that isn't an effort sort of player. With Tavens freakish athleticism if he passes the Mcd/Beane effort/team player mentality they are seeking he will be awfully hard to pass up on. Totally agree. The combine is mostly useless aside from predicting who will make good linebackers and defensive linemen. Bryan's athleticism suggests he's going to make a really good pro player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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