Terry and Kim, I implore you to make this man rich, and he will reciprocate.

[Misterbluesky]

Are you talking about the Coleman piece?

[Augie]

1 hour ago, Kelsos cap said:

There was a fella on with sal last night, he capsulized what it is to be successful in today’s nfl. Scoop this guy up before others do.

 

Do we get a hint? 

[YoloinOhio]

https://d3efjls8gnbg8i.cloudfront.net/1642018/121962069.mp3?rhihttphost=wgr550.hosted.cx

Warren Sharp, hour 2 of Sports Talk Sunday on WGR

Edited February 19, 2018 by YoloinOhio

[White Linen]

19 minutes ago, Kelsos cap said:

I will wait and see. You also seem like a good and rational guy. Go Bills!!! I’m 44 iwant winning and offense! Lol

I’m new, I don’t know how to respond individually, and never look for altercation. But if anyone would like to educate me, I would appreciate it.

 

Just hit the quote button on a post and it'll populate the post you're responding to.

 

McD made it to the playoffs with a no name defense and a QB that threw for under 200 yards 8 times - twice under 100 yards - and did not have a 300 yard game.  He sent clear messages that if you aren't pulling your weight - you will be gone and he sent some of those players packing.  He's a little maniac fireball that's not playing around.  He's a demanding coach that the players respect and respond to.  We had no business being in the playoffs yet we were there.  Let's let this little psycho build the team with players he wants and let his defense win games.  

[Kelsos cap]

2 minutes ago, White Linen said:

 

Just hit the quote button on a post and it'll populate the post you're responding to.

 

McD made it to the playoffs with a no name defense and a QB that threw for under 200 yards 8 times - twice under 100 yards - and did not have a 300 yard game.  He sent clear messages that if you aren't pulling your weight - you will be gone and he sent some of those players packing.  He's a little maniac fireball that's not playing around.  He's a demanding coach that the players respect and respond to.  We had no business being in the playoffs yet we were there.  Let's let this little psycho build the team with players he wants and let his defense win games.  

I like mcD. But I feel they chase rainbows without the qb I think they need a new approach. Whaley did his best to build for his era or time. But it remains the same, qb or bust.

[Lfod]

16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

https://d3efjls8gnbg8i.cloudfront.net/1642018/121962069.mp3?rhihttphost=wgr550.hosted.cx

Warren Sharp, hour 2 of Sports Talk Sunday on WGR

I told the OP that the details would come. My patience or sloth always pays dividends.

Edited February 19, 2018 by Lfod

[Mike in Horseheads]

I believe they are already rich?

[Misterbluesky]

9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

https://d3efjls8gnbg8i.cloudfront.net/1642018/121962069.mp3?rhihttphost=wgr550.hosted.cx

Warren Sharp, hour 2 of Sports Talk Sunday on WGR

If this guy is such a offensive "fix it all",why isn't he hired by just maybe even a college team? A offense should be unpredictable....really? Chuck Knoll said that when he had Bradshaw,Harris,Blier,Stallworth,Swann and also had Ham,Lambert,Greene,Greenwood,Blount on defense.That guy is WAY to hyper for one and I doubt he's ever played the game outside of Pop Warner. He sounds like a Wall St. broker

[Kelsos cap]

1 hour ago, BringBackFergy said:

Absolutely!! Ya mean the guy that called into Sal’s show and talked about how to make the team better? I think it was Chuck from Cheektowaga. Hire him now. 

I’ve obsevered for years, you’ve definitely cleared up that your a doushebag 

[White Linen]

13 minutes ago, Kelsos cap said:

I like mcD. But I feel they chase rainbows without the qb I think they need a new approach. Whaley did his best to build for his era or time. But it remains the same, qb or bust.

 

But you haven't seen what they'll do at QB.  They inherited TT and they're already scoring points in my book by clearly wanting to get away from him.  

[Kelsos cap]

Because of the caveman way of your thinking. He’ll get there, and you’ll question yourself, smart guy 

[Elite Poster]

The segment he's talking about was actually amazing. From on demand today, hour 1 sports talk Sunday I believe.

[BADOLBILZ]

18 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

https://d3efjls8gnbg8i.cloudfront.net/1642018/121962069.mp3?rhihttphost=wgr550.hosted.cx

Warren Sharp, hour 2 of Sports Talk Sunday on WGR

 

Warren Sharp

 

People who don't like my Tyrod and McD takes won't like this.

 

Analyst says that McD with his WR personnel decisions and then Dennison with predictable and ill conceived play calls hamstrung the offense and made very poor use of Tyrod Taylor.   Used the obvious example of the Eagles catering their offense to Foles.

 

According to him.......after a pass with no gain on 1st down the Bills ran the ball 82% of the time(versus 50% league average) and were then only successful 13% of the time(versus 28% league average).

 

And when asked to explain why they made the playoffs........the answer was because of turnover differential.    Pointed out that teams win about 80% of the time if they win the turnover differential.

[yungmack]

With your deep and precise analysis, I think there's a job waiting for you in the White House.

[Misterbluesky]

1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Warren Sharp

 

People who don't like my Tyrod and McD takes won't like this.

 

Analyst says that McD with his WR personnel decisions and then Dennison with predictable and ill conceived play calls hamstrung the offense and made very poor use of Tyrod Taylor.   Used the obvious example of the Eagles catering their offense to Foles.

 

According to him.......after a pass with no gain on 1st down the Bills ran the ball 82% of the time(versus 50% league average) and were then only successful 13% of the time(versus 28% league average).

 

And when asked to explain why they made the playoffs........the answer was because of turnover differential.    Pointed out that teams win about 80% of the time if they win the turnover differential.

The guy stated the obvious,we all watched the games this past season..but he didn't say anything about Taylor not viewing the entire field when he had open receivers..he also neglected to comment on key drops by Jones and Clay in vital situations.The list goes on...

[BADOLBILZ]

1 minute ago, Misterbluesky said:

The guy stated the obvious,we all watched the games this past season..but he didn't say anything about Taylor not viewing the entire field when he had open receivers..he also neglected to comment on key drops by Jones and Clay in vital situations.The list goes on...

 

The point was clear........the Bills put Tyrod in position to fail.

 

He wasn't a good fit in that style of offense, with poor receiving personnel and the type of play calling that was used was egregiously poor for a team that was trying to score points(which in fairness, they quite often WERE NOT trying to do when they had leads).

 

Sal didn't like that opinion, you could tell.......but Sal also never thought Foles could win a playoff game, let alone the SB versus NE,  either........and he felt that way, like many other people paid for their opinions,  because Foles had been awful in a system that he wasn't comfortable in in St. Louis.

[Misterbluesky]

26 minutes ago, Kelsos cap said:

Because of the caveman way of your thinking. He’ll get there, and you’ll question yourself, smart guy 

Nah...numbers are numbers..it takes talent and execution to win...the guy was playing armchair QB  and most likely didn't watch our team play week in and week out.The first time our astronauts landed on the moon..NASA saw flaws and corrected them before the next launch...but those people were engineers and mechanical gurus...this guy is a stat man..using a computerized breakdown

Edited February 19, 2018 by Misterbluesky

[Fadingpain]

I'm listening now.  The guy has his own stats website; he's all about analytics. 

 

Of note:

 

Bills called a run play 82% of the time on 2nd and 10 last year, which was the 2nd most in the league.  The league average was only 54%.

The idea (of the Bills) was to run the ball on 2nd down and not get a first down, but get enough yards to make it 3rd and manageable.

 

We were successful on only 13% of those 2nd down run plays.  We averaged 3.4 yards per carry on those 2nd and 10 run plays.

 

His analysis/model suggests we need to do more PASSING on 2nd and 10.  Passing on 2nd and 10 is significantly more efficient and effective than running.  Success rate league wide on 2nd down with a pass is over 50%, whereas a run is only successful 22% of the time(I believe he said).

This is the sort of stuff he was talking about. 

 

He's basically saying that we had the wrong tendency and could have given ourselves a better chance of success had we understood the data as he has presented it. 

 

I.E., McD is a dummy.

 

 

[Misterbluesky]

5 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

The point was clear........the Bills put Tyrod in position to fail.

 

He wasn't a good fit in that style of offense, with poor receiving personnel and the type of play calling that was used was egregiously poor for a team that was trying to score points(which in fairness, they quite often WERE NOT trying to do when they had leads).

 

Sal didn't like that opinion, you could tell.......but Sal also never thought Foles could win a playoff game, let alone the SB versus NE,  either........and he felt that way, like many other people paid for their opinions,  because Foles had been awful in a system that he wasn't comfortable in in St. Louis.

So it's all moot now because we have a new OC. Ok..then don't B word if Taylor is our starter again next September.

[Augie]

4 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:

I'm listening now.  The guy has his own stats website; he's all about analytics. 

 

Of note:

 

Bills called a run play 82% of the time on 2nd and 10 last year, which was the 2nd most in the league.  The league average was only 54%.

The idea (of the Bills) was to run the ball on 2nd down and not get a first down, but get enough yards to make it 3rd and manageable.

 

We were successful on only 13% of those 2nd down run plays.  We averaged 3.4 yards per carry on those 2nd and 10 run plays.

 

His analysis/model suggests we need to do more PASSING on 2nd and 10.  Passing on 2nd and 10 is significantly more efficient and effective than running.  Success rate league wide on 2nd down with a pass is over 50%, whereas a run is only successful 22% of the time(I believe he said).

This is the sort of stuff he was talking about. 

 

He's basically saying that we had the wrong tendency and could have given ourselves a better chance of success had we understood the data as he has presented it. 

 

I.E., McD is a dummy.

 

 

Or......McD replaced the dummy. I like it better that way. I’ll sleep better, and I need my sleep. 

[Fadingpain]

 

Another point he mentions:

 

When won the turnover battle, we were 8-1.

When we tied or lost the turnover battle, we were 1-6.

 

Historical Stats say 2 easiest ways to win a game are:

 

1) Win turnover battle or 

2) Win return TD battle; this means any type of "return" on special teams for a TD (punt return, KO return, blocked FG returned for TD) or a turnover taken in for a TD (fumble recovery taken in or pick 6)....you win 75% of the time when you have more of these types of TDs than your opponent.

 

 

 

Edited February 19, 2018 by Fadingpain

[Seanbillsfan2206]

2 hours ago, Kelsos cap said:

There was a fella on with sal last night, he capsulized what it is to be successful in today’s nfl. Scoop this guy up before others do.

??

[Fadingpain]

2 minutes ago, Augie said:

Or......McD replaced the dummy. I like it better that way. I’ll sleep better, and I need my sleep. 

You mean by swapping out OCs.

 

Let's hope so!  McD made a number of strategic mistakes during the season however, assuming he has final say on that stuff, which I assume he must have.

 

 

[Gugny]

2 minutes ago, Augie said:

Or......McD replaced the dummy. I like it better that way. I’ll sleep better, and I need my sleep. 

 

You're actually correct.  Because the dummy who McD replaced is the one who handpicked Tyrod Taylor, who is the reason the Bills ran the ball on passing downs for the past three years ... because they couldn't trust an inept QB to be a QB in obvious passing situations.

[BADOLBILZ]

2 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:

I'm listening now.  The guy has his own stats website; he's all about analytics. 

 

Of note:

 

Bills called a run play 82% of the time on 2nd and 10 last year, which was the 2nd most in the league.  The league average was only 54%.

The idea (of the Bills) was to run the ball on 2nd down and not get a first down, but get enough yards to make it 3rd and manageable.

 

We were successful on only 13% of those 2nd down run plays.  We averaged 3.4 yards per carry on those 2nd and 10 run plays.

 

His analysis/model suggests we need to do more PASSING on 2nd and 10.  Passing on 2nd and 10 is significantly more efficient and effective than running.  Success rate league wide on 2nd down with a pass is over 50%, whereas a run is only successful 22% of the time(I believe he said).

This is the sort of stuff he was talking about. 

 

He's basically saying that we had the wrong tendency and could have given ourselves a better chance of success had we understood the data as he has presented it. 

 

I.E., McD is a dummy.

 

 

 

 

McD was a dummy for hiring Dennison and gutting his WR corps when they intended to play a rhythm/timing offense.........but as I've said many times...........a lot of the ineffective offense that bothered so many fans during the season was just designed hyper-conservatism.

 

The worst "analysis" of the season by fans and blurry-eyed "pros" like John Murphy was the hand-wringing when the team stopped scoring TD's in the second half after their 3 week defensive implosion.

 

After the defense proved vulnerable to emotional avalanches in that historically bad stretch....... McD and Dennison got more aggressive early on offense to get leads and then just tried to play "keep-away" to nurse leads and scrape out wins to get to the playoffs.   

[Fadingpain]

Just now, Gugny said:

 

You're actually correct.  Because the dummy who McD replaced is the one who handpicked Tyrod Taylor, who is the reason the Bills ran the ball on passing downs for the past three years ... because they couldn't trust an inept QB to be a QB in obvious passing situations.

So the result of this complex analysis is: you need to throw the ball to win these days, but you need a QB who can throw in order to throw.

 

Seems like we should have already known that!
 

 

[The Crowing Rooster]

Well, Kelsos Cap I know you are new here but you are a little too strange for my liking so I have no choice but to block you. 

[Gugny]

Just now, Fadingpain said:

So the result of this complex analysis is: you need to throw the ball to win these days, but you need a QB who can throw in order to throw.

 

Seems like we should have already known that!
 

 

 

If only "we" included the Pegulas and Rex Ryan.

[fridge]

2 hours ago, Kelsos cap said:

Analytics x 10 in my opinion

 

I prefer analytics x ∞

[Fadingpain]

2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

If only "we" included the Pegulas and Rex Ryan.

Well  I do think they are going all out to get someone they believe can become a franchise guy this year in the draft.

 

So for now, I remain hopeful.

 

[BADOLBILZ]

8 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said:

So it's all moot now because we have a new OC. Ok..then don't B word if Taylor is our starter again next September.

 

 

I've defended Taylor against undue criticism.........if he's back as a bridge for the guy they draft in the first round........and if they actually put him in a position to succeed with some improved receiving personnel and obviously more favorable scheme/play calling...........then I am fine with one more year of TT.

[Misterbluesky]

1 minute ago, Fadingpain said:

You mean by swapping out OCs.

 

Let's hope so!  McD made a number of strategic mistakes during the season however, assuming he has final say on that stuff, which I assume he must have.

 

 

Rookie HC's make mistakes just like rookie players do. Look back at your high school life..would you have made the same decisions that you made in your freshman year in your senior year? I doubt it..

[Gugny]

6 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I've defended Taylor against undue criticism.........if he's back as a bridge for the guy they draft in the first round........and if they actually put him in a position to succeed with some improved receiving personnel and obviously more favorable scheme/play calling...........then I am fine with one more year of TT.

 

He had Watkins, Woods, Clay and Goodwin AND McCoy as a RB and receiver out of the backfield .... and he still sucked.  Not sure how much more improved you can ask for.  

 

Jared Goff did pretty well with a similar setup.

 

One more year of TT saves me $650 I'd spend going to a game.  If he's back, I won't bother.  And no ... I don't think the Bills give a ****, nor do I care.

Edited February 19, 2018 by Gugny

[Misterbluesky]

4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I've defended Taylor against undue criticism.........if he's back as a bridge for the guy they draft in the first round........and if they actually put him in a position to succeed with some improved receiving personnel and obviously more favorable scheme/play calling...........then I am fine with one more year of TT.

Thank You...I'm with you 100%.

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

He had Watkins, Woods, Clay and Goodwin AND McCoy as a RB and receiver out of the backfield .... and he still sucked.  Not sure how much more improved you can ask for.  

 

Jared Goff did pretty well with a similar setup.

 

I believe this is well covered in approximately 114 existing threads. 

 

But who’s counting......

[Gugny]

3 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I believe this is well covered in approximately 114 existing threads. 

 

But who’s counting......

 

119.

[Misterbluesky]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

He had Watkins, Woods, Clay and Goodwin AND McCoy as a RB and receiver out of the backfield .... and he still sucked.  Not sure how much more improved you can ask for.  

 

Jared Goff did pretty well with a similar setup.

Ryan's horrible defense put the offense in desperate modes to often then..Watkins was playing hurt as were Clay and Goodwin.Of course the opposing defenses were keying in on Shady out of the backfield..that's why the lb's seldom dropped back against us....no deep threats!!!!

[Gugny]

Just now, Misterbluesky said:

Ryan's horrible defense put the offense in desperate modes to often then..Watkins was playing hurt as were Clay and Goodwin.Of course the opposing defenses were keying in on Shady out of the backfield..that's why the lb's seldom dropped back against us....no deep threats!!!!

 

[Misterbluesky]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

That's why Ryan was fired!

[Augie]

3 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

119.

 

There you go....I can never quite keep up!