Gugny Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Terrell Davis ABSOLUTELY belongs in the HOF, and it's actually a slam dunk. He had 1200 yards rushing and 12 TDs in 8 playoff games, which is staggering. Prorated, his postseason numbers amount to 2,400 rushing yards and 24 TDs over a 16 game season - and this is against the best competition in the league. Plus he was a SB MVP (deservingly so too). Unlike baseball, postseason performance actually matters in football. Lydell Mitchell too. He was the first to really occupy the sort of role that Craig filled for a sustained period of time. Postseason. It matters. And it should. Did you really have to throw a shot at baseball in there? Really? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Absolutely on Lenny Moore. Nice point! I was born in 1967 so I never saw him play, but as a kid I remember watching Lydell Mitchell make catch after catch from Bert Jones (one of the better QBs I ever watched). That Colt mid 70's offense was really good under none other than Ted Marchibroda with Jones, Mitchell, and Carr. They used to kill the Bills. Edited January 31, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Roger Craig 100% deserves to be in over Davis. Still, neither of them deserve to be in more than Terrell Owens. Its an absolute joke he wasnt a first ballot guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 92 catches in 1985. Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Gugny said: Did you really have to throw a shot at baseball in there? Really? Hey - I love baseball! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 42 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: HOVG is where he belongs. I agree entirely. I remember watching him play and listening to people speculate about him getting into the HOF. But I never saw him as a HOFer. He was a high profile player because he played on good teams with good coaches who got into the playoffs. And he was indeed a very good player. But he wasn't great IMHO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 38 minutes ago, Gugny said: Conversely ... How the hell is Terrell Davis IN the Hall of Fame? https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DaviTe00.htm For comparison, here are Craig's stats: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CraiRo00.htm My big knock on Terrell Davis is that he was only good for 3 years. He was really really good for 3 years, but again - 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, dneveu said: My big knock on Terrell Davis is that he was only good for 3 years. He was really really good for 3 years, but again - 3 years. He wasn't just good for three years. He was utterly dominant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 No question that Craig deserves to be in, considering other players that are in. A terrific all around player for a decade, stats to prove it, prolific in both the run and pass game, stats to prove it, prolific in the post season in both the run and pass game, stats to prove it, and a winner. It's a no brainer, regardless of the players he played with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 35 minutes ago, Lurker said: Just his playoff rushing totals make a good case for his HOF chances, let alone his other contributions... NFL Rushing Yards Career Playoffs Leaders + indicates Hall of Famer Rank Player Yds Years Tm 1 Emmitt Smith+ 1,586 1990-2004 dal 2 Franco Harris+ 1,556 1972-1984 pit 3 Thurman Thomas+ 1,442 1988-2000 buf 4 Tony Dorsett+ 1,383 1977-1988 dal 5 Marcus Allen+ 1,347 1982-1997 2TM 6 Terrell Davis+ 1,140 1995-2001 den 7 John Riggins+ 996 1971-1985 was 8 Marshawn Lynch 937 2007-2017 sea 9 Larry Csonka+ 891 1968-1979 mia 10 Chuck Foreman 860 1973-1980 min 11 Edgerrin James 852 1999-2009 2TM 12 Roger Craig 841 1983-1993 2TM 13 Earnest Byner 839 1984-1997 2TM 14 Curtis Martin+ 795 1995-2005 2TM 15 Eddie George 776 1996-2004 oti 16 Ray Rice 750 2008-2013 rav 17 Eric Dickerson+ 724 1983-1993 2TM 18 Dorsey Levens 702 1994-2004 2TM 19 Lawrence McCutcheon 687 1972-1981 ram 20 Jerome Bettis+ 674 1993-2005 pit Who on earth is chuck foreman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: No question that Craig deserves to be in, considering other players that are in. A terrific all around player for a decade, stats to prove it, prolific in both the run and pass game, stats to prove it, prolific in the post season in both the run and pass game, stats to prove it, and a winner. It's a no brainer, regardless of the players he played with. Ricky Watters' numbers are significantly more impressive than Craig's. I don't really have a dog in this fight, but if you're a RB, I think voters feel you need to get to 10,000 yards or have either some out-of-this-world numbers in the postseason like Terrell Davis or a career cut short by injury after a meteoric few years (Gale Sayers). For regular good players, it's kinda like sluggers and 500 homers (Fred McGriff has 493 and isn't in). I'm not saying that's right, but it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Who on earth is chuck foreman? You're kidding right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) (Incidentally, Marshawn had 101 yards in the final game of the season this year (blowout loss), which got him to 10,000 yards - 10,003 in all. I think he gets in eventually.) Edited January 31, 2018 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Who on earth is chuck foreman? Silly. He's the guy who named each of his three boys after himself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He wasn't just good for three years. He was utterly dominant. True - and he won the big games too. But his career numbers are worse than priest holmes, shaun alexander, and ahman green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: You're kidding right? Not entirely- but I guess he’s that guy who had a kid play linebacker for the Bills at some point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Ricky Watters' numbers are significantly more impressive than Craig's. I don't really have a dog in this fight, but if you're a RB, I think voters feel you need to get to 10,000 yards or have either some out-of-this-world numbers in the postseason like Terrell Davis or a career cut short by injury after a meteoric few years (Gale Sayers). For regular good players, it's kinda like sluggers and 500 homers (Fred McGriff has 493 and isn't in). I'm not saying that's right, but it is what it is. If it is what it is it's stupid. It's not Craig's fault that the best offensive mind in the history of the game thought it was a good idea a lot of the time to throw a swing pass to him, and guys like him, instead of a pitchout. He was enormously productive from that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 For those who don't remember Chuck Foreman, enjoy!!!!!! Buffalo fans: they haven't really changed. At least it wasn't a dildo. https://www.twincities.com/2014/10/15/vikings-chuck-foreman-still-struck-by-75-snowball-fiasco/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Not entirely- but I guess he’s that guy who had a kid play linebacker for the Bills at some point He was a very good dual threat RB on the Vikings' teams of the 70's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: He was a very good dual threat RB on the Vikings' teams of the 70's. See above! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts