DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, FearLess Price said: Its a possibility. Do you know how many people get hired at places simply because they have a friend that does the hiring? Regardless of business acumen or professional standards. Im questioning it thats all, i dont have that answer. Lets not act like cronyism doesnt exist tho, especially in the sports and entertainment industry I don't see McD being the kind of coach that hires buddies just because their buddies. he appears to be a pretty meticulous man and I see this as more of experience hire for the betterment of the team. but that's just my opinion. trust the process. 6 minutes ago, Jamie Muellers Ghost said: Anyone else have a flashback to the gentle giant former Bills g.m. ? (rip) I did when I first saw the thread. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Linebackers coach and ST coordinator at Harvard when Fitz was there. Coincidence? Edited January 30, 2018 by stevewin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 Just now, stevewin said: Linebackers coach and ST coordinator when Fitz was there. Coincidence? Connect the dots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Connect the dots! Wait. So ties to Buffalo have been confirmed? Does that mean we are going after Fitz as our veteran QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 37 minutes ago, klos63 said: Do you really think he may have just hired him because he's a friend? All day long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 30 minutes ago, Gugny said: Seems like a decent hire based on Butler's experience/resume. I'm just wondering why McD felt the need to change/upgrade when the defensive backfield was the most consistent part of the entire team all season. because changing position coaches wont change scheme/design/play calls so it will not really have a huge impact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 22 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: I don't see McD being the kind of coach that hires buddies just because their buddies. he appears to be a pretty meticulous man and I see this as more of experience hire for the betterment of the team. but that's just my opinion. trust the process. I did when I first saw the thread. I agreed but then i see our OL running a zone scheme that has regressed our running game, pass blocking, and Castillo hasnt been axed. So.... meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Helpmenow said: All day long so kind of like the real world ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Just now, Jamie Muellers Ghost said: so kind of like the real world ? You bet everyday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 32 minutes ago, Gugny said: Seems like a decent hire based on Butler's experience/resume. I'm just wondering why McD felt the need to change/upgrade when the defensive backfield was the most consistent part of the entire team all season. trust the process 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, FearLess Price said: I agreed but then i see our OL running a zone scheme that has regressed our running game, pass blocking, and Castillo hasnt been axed. So.... meh. is it January? I would expect many changes between now and opening day about 8 months from now, both on the roster and staff? Edited January 30, 2018 by DaBillsFanSince1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 40 minutes ago, FearLess Price said: Its a possibility. Do you know how many people get hired at places simply because they have a friend that does the hiring? Regardless of business acumen or professional standards. Im questioning it thats all, i dont have that answer. Lets not act like cronyism doesnt exist tho, especially in the sports and entertainment industry Based on the little I've read about Butler's credentials, this certainly doesn't FEEL like the Ronnie Jones fiasco of the Wade days. THAT was cronyism at it's finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 27 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Connect the dots! Butler Attended the same high school as McDermott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 35 minutes ago, Gugny said: Seems like a decent hire based on Butler's experience/resume. I'm just wondering why McD felt the need to change/upgrade when the defensive backfield was the most consistent part of the entire team all season. Because he wanted to. It's not about need. He wants the guys that he wants. He's the real brains behind the defense anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 1 minute ago, transient said: Based on the little I've read about Butler's credentials, this certainly doesn't FEEL like the Ronnie Jones fiasco of the Wade days. THAT was cronyism at it's finest. Explain the wade and Ronnie jones thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 I like the fact that he’s coming from the AFC South, since the Bills play all those teams next year 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 55 minutes ago, klos63 said: I understand it happens, but it's not like this guy isn't qualified. Familiarity is not the same as cronyism. I think those two get confused a lot. Not saying you're confusing them , but it's common. Plus, McDermott doesn't seem the type to hire someone just based on friendship. Only Rex does stuff like that. Didn't Gregg-O do the same thing when he was here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 16 minutes ago, Helpmenow said: Explain the wade and Ronnie jones thing Jones, who IIRC was reportedly friends with Wade, had no experience whatsoever coaching special teams prior to being hired as ST coordinator, a role in which he was epically incompetent at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 27 minutes ago, Helpmenow said: Butler Attended the same high school as McDermott he's also a highly regarded DB Coach 12 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Didn't Gregg-O do the same thing when he was here? I don't recall, but Butler is qualified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 27 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: is it January? I would expect many changes between now and opening day about 8 months from now, both on the roster and staff? Right. Lets see how it plays out. 27 minutes ago, transient said: Based on the little I've read about Butler's credentials, this certainly doesn't FEEL like the Ronnie Jones fiasco of the Wade days. THAT was cronyism at it's finest. Credentials are real. The connections are too. Lets hope to see acountability at the coaching level, like what happened with Dennison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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