Deranged Rhino Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Food for thought. Edited February 1, 2018 by Deranged Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 3 hours ago, joesixpack said: But we should automatically assume the FBI isn't lying, right? Well, as my boss likes to say: "How can you trust an agency that can (and does) lie to you, but will prosecute you if you lie to them?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Sounds iffy. But also sounds like there are some millennials working at the FBI who don't know **** from shineola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 6 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Which is why it isn't being used as political fodder. There are no leaks. This is being used to secure convictions and send people to jail (or to their death), not to score political points and influence elections. Dont kid yourself. It's being used as both. There are no leaks because whomever is going to use the report is figuring out the best way to (a) secure convictions and (b) score political points and ( c) politicize it as a shield from being prosecuted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Quote Brit Hume ✔@brithume Notable that in the latest round of FBI/DOJ objections to the release of the House intel memo, earlier claims of dangerous disclosures of sources & methods have vanished. 3:58 PM - Jan 31, 2018 Now that he mentions it, wasn’t the release of the memo supposed to be a threat to national security? The FBI seems to have scaled back its objections a bit now that the release of the memo seems imminent, once President Trump reviews and approves it. Now, it is that the memorandum contains "material omissions." Gee, I don't recall "material omissions" as a basis for classification in America The only omissions from the memo are Democrat party talking points as to the reasons why the "wire tapping" was needed. That's right...the Fusion GPS Dossier fabrications are what they're crying about not being repeated. We've already seen all that nonsense in the news every day for over a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 minute ago, B-Man said: Now that he mentions it, wasn’t the release of the memo supposed to be a threat to national security? The FBI seems to have scaled back its objections a bit now that the release of the memo seems imminent, once President Trump reviews and approves it. Now, it is that the memorandum contains "material omissions." Gee, I don't recall "material omissions" as a basis for classification in America The only omissions from the memo are Democrat party talking points as to the reasons why the "wire tapping" was needed. That's right...the Fusion GPS Dossier fabrications are what they're crying about not being repeated. We've already seen all that nonsense in the news every day for over a year. Correct. The narrative shifted because Wray and two unknown FBI/DOJ officials vetted the memo Sunday night. Monday, McCabe goes down - for what Wray read in the memo. At least that's the first report. Later reports said he was forced out because of the IG report. Could both be true? Certainly. But there are games being played right now as the players position their pieces for the last stand. There was also REVISIONS to the memo made by unknown FBI officials and given to the WH as something they would bless if he released. That offer was rejected from all reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) Here's a thought... nothing is as it seems, by design (per my Military Intelligence post). The release of this memo clearly has many in Congress and the former administration shook, it also has many in the media outraged. But what's their biggest fear? The release of all the supporting intelligence to the memo which remains classified. I'm assuming this includes texts, emails, video, and other SIGINT. That stuff is also the "smoking gun" that would convince all but the completely partisan. NO ONE but DNI Coats, Nunes, and Rogers has seen this evidence. None of the people claiming it omits evidence have even seen the evidence to make this claim. This evidence is (in my estimation) damning. So, if you're Wray, how do you engineer an environment that DEMANDS more information be released? You don't object to the memo's release (which he hasn't), but you cite concerns about "grave omissions of fact" - which then is picked up as the talking point by the people trying to prevent the memo's release. Giving Trump the ability to de-classify it ALL, causing all of this to blow up in the faces of the enemy while the public gets an accelerated disclosure of (what would have to be) undeniable evidence of what the memo lays out. That gives the public a month to grapple with that... before Horowitz's report is scheduled to go public. Just a thought... Edited February 1, 2018 by Deranged Rhino 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 THE FBI HAS “GRAVE CONCERNS”? SO DO I by John Hinderaker Most of us are eagerly awaiting the release of the House Intelligence Committee’s memo on abuse of the FBI by the Obama administration. It should happen in the next couple of days. Meanwhile, the Bureau is worried, as always, about its public image. The Associated Pressheadlines: “FBI clashes with Trump, has ‘grave concerns’ on Russia memo.” I’m so old, I can remember when liberals were in favor of revealing corruption in institutions like the FBI. Those days, of course, are long gone. In a remarkably public clash of wills with the White House, the FBI declared Wednesday it has “grave concerns” about the accuracy of a classified memo on the Russia election investigation that President Donald Trump wants released. Yeah, well, you know what? I have grave concerns about the politicization of the Department of Justice and the FBI under the Obama administration, which I have been writing about since 2010. “As expressed during our initial review, we have grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy,” the FBI said. If there are “material omissions of fact,” the Democrats’ responsive memo no doubt will reveal them. Good: let’s lay the cards on the table. The relevant fact here is that the FBI is no longer claiming that there is a national security problem with releasing the memo, only that it will put the FBI in a bad light. Trey Gowdy, soon to depart the House, gets the last word: The Justice Department had said in a letter last week that it would be “extraordinarily reckless” to release the memo without first giving the FBI and the department the chance to review it. After those complaints, Wray reviewed the memo over the weekend. Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., who was with him when he reviewed the memo, said the FBI director did not raise any national security concerns. Gowdy said the memo doesn’t reveal any intelligence methods but does reveal “one source.” Heh. Christopher Steele, I presume. It’s time for some transparency. Let’s get to the bottom of the FBI’s meddling in the 2016 presidential election. The Bureau needs, at a minimum, to be reformed via a thorough housecleaning of senior bureaucrats. http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/01/the-fbi-has-grave-concerns-so-do-i.php . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 Tomorrow will be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Tomorrow will be fun. When does the shooting start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: When does the shooting start? Hopefully it won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, DC Tom said: When does the shooting start? Depends..............................when do the 'garbage trucks' arrive ? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Hopefully it won't. I just want forewarning. I live in a largely black and hispanic neighborhood, and I'd like a chance to leave town before the purge starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just now, DC Tom said: I just want forewarning. I live in a largely black and hispanic neighborhood, and I'd like a chance to leave town before the purge starts. Sounds like the memo drops tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Tomorrow will be fun. Perhaps, but only until the memo and everything surrounding it gets twisted, shaded, boondoggled, and melted into a swirl. I think there are too many entrenched swamp residents for this memo, and what it reports, to have a major effect on the future of the general public. It will be a disappointment in the long run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 29 minutes ago, snafu said: Perhaps, but only until the memo and everything surrounding it gets twisted, shaded, boondoggled, and melted into a swirl. I think there are too many entrenched swamp residents for this memo, and what it reports, to have a major effect on the future of the general public. It will be a disappointment in the long run. I agree the memo isn't the end all be all. It's just the start. Horowitz is going to have even more damning stuff (and his report is 1.2 million pages in length). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I agree the memo isn't the end all be all. It's just the start. Horowitz is going to have even more damning stuff (and his report is 1.2 million pages in length). The memo, and everything surrounding it, will be turned into a morass. Like a mastodon that steps into a tar pit and sinks slowly into the Earth, only to become a fossil that people can examine some day. I tend to agree that Horowitz will have an impact on the FBI, but his influence ends there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 49 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Sounds like the memo drops tomorrow. Pres had 5 days he must wait. Tomorrow is 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 19 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I agree the memo isn't the end all be all. It's just the start. Horowitz is going to have even more damning stuff (and his report is 1.2 million pages in length). Cody Shearer? Was he really behind the Christopher Steele dossier? More intrigue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share Posted February 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Cody Shearer? Was he really behind the Christopher Steele dossier? More intrigue. I don't think so. I think his memo (which is magically the same as Steele's) is just the same one in disguise. And I contend that Steele wrote very little, if any, of the original. It was Nellie Ohr and Simpson who wrote it imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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