Doc Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 There isn't anyone in this draft class worth trading up for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Just now, Doc said: There isn't anyone in this draft class worth trading up for. Not Rosen, not Darnold, nor Mayfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 13 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Not Rosen, not Darnold, nor Mayfield? Nope. The cost to move up will take most of this year's draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Just now, Doc said: Nope. The cost to move up will take most of this year's draft picks. What if you were convinced they are franchise QB material? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socal-805 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: The Bills 'blew' an opportunity for a top QB pick when they ended the drought. I'm OK with that. As so many threads have already proven the reliability of draft picks is really suspect. Use your bounty of picks to fill up the roster with good solid players. Pick up a veteran to lead them (it'll be better that TT) and take a QB when you feel there's value either in the late first or second. + 1 Beauty. Very well said! Also, I read an article which shows the percentage of "franchise" QBs selected in picks 1 - 5 is about 30 %. Picks 6 - 10 drops to about 10 %, and picks 11 - 20 jumps back up to 20 %. GMs are clearly reaching or misevaluating in the 6 - 10 range. I think?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 It will take a fortune that includes picks from next year too IMO. We are going up into the top 5 from the twenties...that's a big jump and with other teams likely trying to jump up as well, the price will just go up. We better LOVE a guy if we do jump up. This will be one interesting offseason that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickleyjones Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 "need"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 15 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: What if you were convinced they are franchise QB material? Then I’d consider it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: What if you were convinced they are franchise QB material? Even if you are convinced you still have to weigh options and ask yourself plenty of questions. That's a part of "the process". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 40 minutes ago, NewEraBills said: Even if you are convinced you still have to weigh options and ask yourself plenty of questions. That's a part of "the process". Wholeheartedly disagree. If OBD is convinced one of the QBs in the draft is a franchise QB, then they better move whatever need be moved to obtain him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Wholeheartedly disagree. If OBD is convinced one of the QBs in the draft is a franchise QB, then they better move whatever need be moved to obtain him. Correct. If you see a guy who can be a top QB in the future then you go get him. If we were ever going to have a chance at getting a QB it's this year because of the extra 1st rounder. Edited January 25, 2018 by ndirish1978 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 The only guy the Bills want is Darnold and still think Cleveland takes him #1 overall especially since John Dorsey is a proven commodity at GM and understands he's the best QB and/or player in the draft. Cleveland is actually in a great spot because if they land their franchise QB with the first pick they can then trade the #4 pick for a kings ransom to another desperate team looking for a QB. Could easily go from 0-16 to 8-8 or better very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, SaviorPeterman said: The only guy the Bills want is Darnold and still think Cleveland takes him #1 overall especially since John Dorsey is a proven commodity at GM and understands he's the best QB and/or player in the draft. Cleveland is actually in a great spot because if they land their franchise QB with the first pick they can then trade the #4 pick for a kings ransom to another desperate team looking for a QB. Could easily go from 0-16 to 8-8 or better very quickly. At their current rate of winning 1 game every 2 years, it will take 14 years to get to where they are still not making the playoffs at 8-8. Juicy! Edited January 25, 2018 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Keep in mind that they have assets to trade in addition to draft picks, such as players they may be ready to move on from ... Cordy Glenn, Tyrod Taylor). There are teams such as the Browns who actually prefer vets because they have a very young team, already a plethora of picks, and have a difficult time getting vets to sign in FA. Maybe a no brainer, Yolo? A first, a second, a fourth (or the extra fifth) in 2018, a third in 2019, Glenn and Tyrod for their 4? They have cap space. They pick up two additional picks, this year (3 total), as well as a starting tackle and a bridge QB. 5 for 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Maybe a no brainer, Yolo? A first, a second, a fourth (or the extra fifth) in 2018, a third in 2019, Glenn and Tyrod for their 4? They have cap space. They pick up two additional picks, this year (3 total), as well as a starting tackle and a bridge QB. 5 for 1. Yep they are a team who will (finally) spend the surplus of cap and trades for decent starters with contracts teams want to shed are one easy way to make that happen. If Tyrod is involved I don’t know if they start him or not, but they desperately need a vet QB. Edited January 25, 2018 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 No they don’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 8 hours ago, Klaista2k said: If we want a top quarterback there's no doubt in mind we need to trade up into the top 5. As long as that stays in your mind, I am good with that. We definitely do not need to trade up into the top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Yep they are a team who will (finally) spend the surplus of cap and trades for decent starters with contracts teams want to shed are one easy way to make that happen Honestly, I think at some point, sooner rather than later, Cleveland is going to start to rise, especially with the combination of picks and veterans (if they get them). Who the hell doesn't want a quality tackle* which Glenn is (* if healthy)? I think they could be a 5-6 win team in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 minute ago, simool said: As long as that stays in your mind, I am good with that. We definitely do not need to trade up into the top 5. So basically you are cool with the Qbs we have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 minute ago, ndirish1978 said: So basically you are cool with the Qbs we have? No. Definitely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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