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Is DACA Issue Just A Dem Slight Of Hand?


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This is a nice start 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-supports-path-to-citizenship-for-up-to-18-million-dreamers-in-new-white-house-proposal/2018/01/25/fa3f01aa-01e3-11e8-8acf-ad2991367d9d_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trump-daca-520pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.61e1edbc2020

 

President Trump’s immigration proposal to Congress will include a path to citizenship for an estimated 1.8 million young undocumented immigrants, White House officials said Thursday, more than twice the number of “dreamers” who were enrolled in a deferred action program Trump terminated last fall.

The figure represents a significant concession to Democrats but is likely to produce sharp blowback among conservative Republicans, even as the White House cast the move as one piece of an immigration framework that would significantly tighten border control laws.

Trump’s plan, which will be formally sent to the Senate on Monday, also includes a $25 billion “trust fund” for a border wall and additional security upgrades on both the southwest and northern U.S. borders. And the president will propose significant curbs to legal immigration channels, restricting the ability of U.S. citizens to petition for visas only for spouses and minor children and ending categories for parents and siblings. Both of those provisions are likely to engender fierce objections among liberal Democrats.

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6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

This is a nice start 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-supports-path-to-citizenship-for-up-to-18-million-dreamers-in-new-white-house-proposal/2018/01/25/fa3f01aa-01e3-11e8-8acf-ad2991367d9d_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trump-daca-520pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.61e1edbc2020

 

President Trump’s immigration proposal to Congress will include a path to citizenship for an estimated 1.8 million young undocumented immigrants, White House officials said Thursday, more than twice the number of “dreamers” who were enrolled in a deferred action program Trump terminated last fall.

The figure represents a significant concession to Democrats but is likely to produce sharp blowback among conservative Republicans, even as the White House cast the move as one piece of an immigration framework that would significantly tighten border control laws.

Trump’s plan, which will be formally sent to the Senate on Monday, also includes a $25 billion “trust fund” for a border wall and additional security upgrades on both the southwest and northern U.S. borders. And the president will propose significant curbs to legal immigration channels, restricting the ability of U.S. citizens to petition for visas only for spouses and minor children and ending categories for parents and siblings. Both of those provisions are likely to engender fierce objections among liberal Democrats.

 

It is and if the Dems don't seize on this, they're going to become the political "bad guys" in the immigration fight. 

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On 1/25/2018 at 6:19 PM, keepthefaith said:

 

It is and if the Dems don't seize on this, they're going to become the political "bad guys" in the immigration fight. 

 

Trump: Dems rejected my generous offer because they “do not want to solve DACA, only use it!”

Trump is blessed with an opposition that makes him seem reasonable by comparison.

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A hot topic in the Legal Insurrection comment sections has been whether the insane/deranged/lunatic/vicious/malicious reaction of Democrats and the open-borders left to Trump’s generous DACA/Dreamer amnesty framework was part of some three-dimensional chess play by Trump.

In that scenario, Trump offered what he knew never would be accepted in order to make himself look good and his opposition unreasonable: Amnesty for 1.8 million ‘Dreamers’ plus immediate family reunification, in exchange for funding of border security and The Wall, and an end to extended family chain migration.

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On 1/13/2018 at 10:02 AM, 3rdnlng said:

It is my contention that the dems do not want to bring the "Dreamers" situation to a close. The dems want to keep this issue alive so that they can pick away at it and blame republicans for not wanting to do anything about it. The "compromise" proposed by the "Five Guys" was nothing but a sham to make it appear that President Trump didn't want to solve this issue. Trump should come out and make it very clear that he wants to give the "dreamers" permanent residency but the dems are standing in the way. Continually play tapes of Clinton, Obama and Pelosi calling for a wall. Make this about the dems refusing to work with the republicans rather than the republicans wanting to deport the "dreamers". Anyone can see that there is a reasonable compromise here and that a solution should be a no brainer. It's time to put the blame where it belongs.

 

This is completely what it is.

 

The deal that Trump is offering Democrats is an extremely reasonable position and is probably where most American's are, which is to let the kids stay, allow them to gain citizenship after a while.  In exchange they want to secure the borders and revamp the VISA process more to a merit based sort of system.  The fact that Democrats and activists are willing to not go along with this is proof positive that they either A) don't give a **** about the DACA kids and would rather use them as a political cudgel than to address the issue or B) They are completely unrealistic of the political reality and that some give and take has to occur.     

 

Both parties are held hostage by their extreme dumbass political bases.   Both political bases are akin to what HAMAS is to the Palestines.  Without a cause there is no existence for these groups and what better way to survive is there other than to keep the causes alive.  They don't give a **** just like the right wing doesn't give a **** either.  Both sides suck and the only ones who are truly productive are the so-called moderates who try to get things done.     

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So, the more these DACAs whine and cry, the less I will care if they're all mass-deported.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/dreamers-turn-backs-trumps-immigration-policy-052819330.html

 

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“It’s sad to hear that to have citizenship we have to give up the safety of our parents,” Alacaron told Yahoo News after the address, adding that attempts to tie citizenship for ‘Dreamers’ to increased spending for the wall and other immigration enforcement is “something we’re not going to compromise on.”

 

Well, feel free to compromise with the immigration court at your deportation proceedings, then.

 

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“It’s upsetting to hear that someone who says they’re representing Americans first is not really representing me and my community members,” he said.

 

I find this hysterical that he is not representing "Americans" because he isn't representing their "community". They. Are. Not. Americans.

 

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“He portrayed immigrants as criminals, as people who are illegal,” said Yatziri Tovar, a 25-year-old DACA recipient who moved to the Bronx from Mexico at age 2. Trump’s speech, she said, “gave me a sense of what this nation is going to be for next three years.”

 

Try 7 years, pendejo.

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1 hour ago, Koko78 said:

“He portrayed immigrants as criminals, as people who are illegal,” said Yatziri Tovar, a 25-year-old DACA recipient who moved to the Bronx from Mexico at age 2.

 

You're a DACA recipient who came here illegally 20 years ago.  You are illegal alien, dumbass.  Trump OUTLINED A PLAN TO REMEDY THAT.

 

Jesus, this country is !@#$ed.

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The Democrats seem determined to keep pretending that Trump hasn’t offered to work with them on immigration reform, even pledging his support to make nearly two million ‘Dreamer’s citizens over the next 12 years. Which proves their blathering on immigration has never really been about helping these ‘young people,’ but using them as a means to pander for votes.

 

Of course, considering Obama had a filibuster-proof majority for two years and they did NOTHING on immigration then, we already knew that but it’s still fun to watch Trump and his administration needle them.

 

Like this from Sarah Sanders:

 

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When Obama was President and Democrats controlled the House and a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate they did nothing on immigration. Will Democrats do nothing again now that @POTUS is courageously leading & offering a bipartisan solution vast majority of Americans support?

 

 
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McCain and Coons have an improved DACA bill… which should also be rejected

 

 

 

Police: Suspect in Colts player’s crash death deported twice
AP ^ | 2/5/18

 

Police say a man being held in a suspected drunken driving crash that killed Indianapolis Colts linebacker Edwin Jackson has twice been deported from the U.S.

Indiana State Police said Monday that 37-year-old Manuel Orrego-Savala is a citizen of Guatemala and gave officers a fake name following the Sunday accident.

Investigators say he’s in U.S. illegally and was deported in 2007 and 2009.

 

 

 

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