Jay_Fixit Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: Are you trolling now because you've been so heavily criticized in this thread? He’s totally that guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jerry Christ said: Fans, just get rid of most of them.........especially the ones who go to games just to get drunk and tear **** up. They were an embarrassment down in Jacksonville.......I apologized for them every place I went. I was there and it wasn't that bad. There was approximately 25,000 and probably .001 were acting like fools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 17 minutes ago, Badthingsman said: They let go 38 players last year. So you are expecting the Bills to do the same thing again, during this off season? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: He’s totally that guy. If this thread was a baseball player, it would be RA Dickey with the Blue Jays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 17 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: So you are expecting the Bills to do the same thing again, during this off season? At least 30. Replace with better players. 14 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: If this thread was a baseball player, it would be RA Dickey with the Blue Jays. You're pretty good at name calling. Do you have anything else? Like I said, ignore the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 17 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: If this thread was a baseball player, it would be RA Dickey with the Blue Jays. Or Erik Bedard with the Mariners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Badthingsman said: At least 30. Replace with better players. You're pretty good at name calling. Do you have anything else? Like I said, ignore the thread. Okay....now I know you’re not trolling so that’s all I need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 11 minutes ago, Badthingsman said: At least 30. Replace with better players. There will be turnover on the roster, but I don't see the Bills getting rid of 30 players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 18 hours ago, fridge said: If Lorenzo Alexander is back as a starter we are in trouble. I think Alexander was one of the best guys on field in the playoff game. Would love over to see him play another season in any capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 They will keep Zay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 18 hours ago, Badthingsman said: Dime a dozen. Who really stood out on ST this year? I didn't see any Steve Tasker out there. This is just plain wrong. Quality punters who last all season and can work outdoors in B'lo, and quality long snappers ditto, are NOT a dime a dozen. Marv Levy once said that the long snapper is the hardest position to fill and the hardest skill to coach. 2 hours ago, Badthingsman said: Yes. They did 38 last year including in-season trades and moves. They released or traded so many players last year to bring in players they saw better scheme fit or better potential with. If they do the same this year, it means their player personnel evaluation sucks great big dipnoodles and we're in the schitz no matter what. Coaches and GMs who can't identify depth players who can develop don't get very far under the salary cap Not For Long. 20 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: I think Alexander was one of the best guys on field in the playoff game. Would love over to see him play another season in any capacity. Indeed. As I said in another thread, Zo played like his balls were on fire and only hitting would put it out. He's had his struggles this year but if he could be inspired to play like that even part time, he's worth keeping, but of course it depends on who else they can bring in. 18 hours ago, Badthingsman said: Yes. There are a million punters out there cheaper and better. Really? Can you name 3 of these better cheaper punters please? I'll even settle for 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 17 hours ago, Badthingsman said: The list is a good one. I don't see myself making any changes. If you're not trolling, the list is trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Badthingsman said: Finally someone who has an original thought! Zay Jones is not the answer. He could not get open. The handful of times he did get open he turned into Roberto Duran. Move on. Schmidt can go. Clay needs to go. Injured and over paid. Logan Thomas? C'mon. So far my list stays solid. Thank you for the kind words. Punters are replaceable. It's a toss up between Dennison and Schmidt if you had to pinpoint who lost the game for us on Sunday. You know, a number of people have offered you thoughtful feedback, including myself, but you don't seem very interested in benefiting from it at all. That kind of inclines me to think you really are just trolling. If you aren't, then I'll point out again: 1) The cap implications of moves need to be considered. Your list would generate a huge amount of dead cap, while generating holes to be filled with less cap. That typically is a plan where you lose your hat in the NFL ("any plan where you lose your hat...is a bad plan") 2) You would benefit in your "let go" lists, by differentiating between players who are signed, and have cap implications if released, vs players who are FA Likewise in your "keep" list, by differentiating between players who are signed, and players who are FA and have cap implications to resign 3) Teams don't cut 2nd round rookies in their 2nd season, especially when doing so would generate $3.5M dead money (-$1.5M savings). That's just silly. Likewise, when you have a guy like Clay who is producing (top receiving yards on team) and who costs as much to cut as to keep, there's really no driver to cut him. 4) Last year a huge number of players were cut and replaced because our new coaches wanted to bring in guys who matched their scheme and their evaluation for development potential. But if a team does that every year, it means their GM, scouts, and coaches suck at evaluating depth players with development potential. Are you saying Beane and his staff and McDermott and his staff suck? I don't see a lot of original thought in your list, actually. It seems to be 'cut every depth and PS player, know nothing about salary cap management and don't want to' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: If you're not trolling, the list is trash. It's better than your list! 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: You know, a number of people have offered you thoughtful feedback, including myself, but you don't seem very interested in benefiting from it at all. That kind of inclines me to think you really are just trolling. If you aren't, then I'll point out again: 1) The cap implications of moves need to be considered. Your list would generate a huge amount of dead cap, while generating holes to be filled with less cap. That typically is a plan where you lose your hat in the NFL ("any plan where you lose your hat...is a bad plan") 2) You would benefit in your "let go" lists, by differentiating between players who are signed, and have cap implications if released, vs players who are FA Likewise in your "keep" list, by differentiating between players who are signed, and players who are FA and have cap implications to resign 3) Teams don't cut 2nd round rookies in their 2nd season, especially when doing so would generate $3.5M dead money (-$1.5M savings). That's just silly. Likewise, when you have a guy like Clay who is producing (top receiving yards on team) and who costs as much to cut as to keep, there's really no driver to cut him. 4) Last year a huge number of players were cut and replaced because our new coaches wanted to bring in guys who matched their scheme and their evaluation for development potential. But if a team does that every year, it means their GM, scouts, and coaches suck at evaluating depth players with development potential. Are you saying Beane and his staff and McDermott and his staff suck? I don't see a lot of original thought in your list, actually. It seems to be 'cut every depth and PS player, know nothing about salary cap management and don't want to' I take offense to you calling me names over and over. The guys I labeled "Let Go" I want let go. It's as simple as that. Only one dude took the time to prepare his own list. The rest just nagged like an old lady. Tiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 49 minutes ago, Badthingsman said: It's better than your list! I take offense to you calling me names over and over. The guys I labeled "Let Go" I want let go. It's as simple as that. Only one dude took the time to prepare his own list. The rest just nagged like an old lady. Tiring. OK, I have not called you names. *plonk* (thats the sound of a proven troll falling into my "ignore" bucket) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 30 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: OK, I have not called you names. *plonk* (thats the sound of a proven troll falling into my "ignore" bucket) Thank God. Adios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Rickey Hatley I guess we picked him up for the practice squad a couple of weeks ago and within a few days was brought up to the team and played some snaps vs Miami (NT). I looked at the box score vs Jax and the guy got 3 tackles (combined) in only 18 snaps. Now I wish I'd recorded the game, just to see if I could pick him out. His # is 94. Anybody comment? Maybe we'll get lucky on this guy. Sure would be nice to not spend a draft choice or get a FA and DT is for sure a big need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 30 minutes ago, hemma said: Rickey Hatley I guess we picked him up for the practice squad a couple of weeks ago and within a few days was brought up to the team and played some snaps vs Miami (NT). I looked at the box score vs Jax and the guy got 3 tackles (combined) in only 18 snaps. Now I wish I'd recorded the game, just to see if I could pick him out. His # is 94. Anybody comment? Maybe we'll get lucky on this guy. Sure would be nice to not spend a draft choice or get a FA and DT is for sure a big need. Hatley didn't stand out to me. He is tall and big, but isn't really a 1 technique tackle. Looked like he played rather high to me, but he did rotate a bit. I think he's more of a 3-4 defensive end with his build, but hes not a bad Swiss army knife guy for depth. He could play the 1, 3, or heavy defensive end in the under alignment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted January 11, 2018 Author Share Posted January 11, 2018 Once Again, I was Correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 On 1/8/2018 at 8:04 PM, QuoteTheRaven83 said: Stopped reading after you said keep Ducasse Ya, that makes sense. New OC, old OC, who gives a sh*t this guy is still crap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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