Jay_Fixit Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 On 1/9/2018 at 3:25 PM, Royale with Cheese said: Are you trolling now because you've been so heavily criticized in this thread? Expand He’s totally that guy. 1
Royale with Cheese Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 On 1/9/2018 at 4:33 PM, Jerry Christ said: Fans, just get rid of most of them.........especially the ones who go to games just to get drunk and tear **** up. They were an embarrassment down in Jacksonville.......I apologized for them every place I went. Expand I was there and it wasn't that bad. There was approximately 25,000 and probably .001 were acting like fools.
Mark Vader Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 On 1/9/2018 at 4:24 PM, Badthingsman said: They let go 38 players last year. Expand So you are expecting the Bills to do the same thing again, during this off season? 1
Royale with Cheese Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 On 1/9/2018 at 4:40 PM, Jay_Fixit said: He’s totally that guy. Expand If this thread was a baseball player, it would be RA Dickey with the Blue Jays.
Irv Posted January 9, 2018 Author Posted January 9, 2018 On 1/9/2018 at 4:43 PM, Mark Vader said: So you are expecting the Bills to do the same thing again, during this off season? Expand At least 30. Replace with better players. On 1/9/2018 at 4:48 PM, Royale with Cheese said: If this thread was a baseball player, it would be RA Dickey with the Blue Jays. Expand You're pretty good at name calling. Do you have anything else? Like I said, ignore the thread.
Jay_Fixit Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 On 1/9/2018 at 4:48 PM, Royale with Cheese said: If this thread was a baseball player, it would be RA Dickey with the Blue Jays. Expand Or Erik Bedard with the Mariners.
Royale with Cheese Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 On 1/9/2018 at 5:03 PM, Badthingsman said: At least 30. Replace with better players. You're pretty good at name calling. Do you have anything else? Like I said, ignore the thread. Expand Okay....now I know you’re not trolling so that’s all I need to know.
Mark Vader Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 On 1/9/2018 at 5:03 PM, Badthingsman said: At least 30. Replace with better players. Expand There will be turnover on the roster, but I don't see the Bills getting rid of 30 players.
Bob in STL Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 On 1/8/2018 at 10:38 PM, fridge said: If Lorenzo Alexander is back as a starter we are in trouble. Expand I think Alexander was one of the best guys on field in the playoff game. Would love over to see him play another season in any capacity.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 On 1/8/2018 at 11:01 PM, Badthingsman said: Dime a dozen. Who really stood out on ST this year? I didn't see any Steve Tasker out there. Expand This is just plain wrong. Quality punters who last all season and can work outdoors in B'lo, and quality long snappers ditto, are NOT a dime a dozen. Marv Levy once said that the long snapper is the hardest position to fill and the hardest skill to coach. On 1/9/2018 at 3:19 PM, Badthingsman said: Yes. They did 38 last year including in-season trades and moves. Expand They released or traded so many players last year to bring in players they saw better scheme fit or better potential with. If they do the same this year, it means their player personnel evaluation sucks great big dipnoodles and we're in the schitz no matter what. Coaches and GMs who can't identify depth players who can develop don't get very far under the salary cap Not For Long. On 1/9/2018 at 5:25 PM, Bob in STL said: I think Alexander was one of the best guys on field in the playoff game. Would love over to see him play another season in any capacity. Expand Indeed. As I said in another thread, Zo played like his balls were on fire and only hitting would put it out. He's had his struggles this year but if he could be inspired to play like that even part time, he's worth keeping, but of course it depends on who else they can bring in. On 1/8/2018 at 11:06 PM, Badthingsman said: Yes. There are a million punters out there cheaper and better. Expand Really? Can you name 3 of these better cheaper punters please? I'll even settle for 2
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 On 1/9/2018 at 12:50 AM, Badthingsman said: The list is a good one. I don't see myself making any changes. Expand If you're not trolling, the list is trash.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 On 1/9/2018 at 2:15 PM, Badthingsman said: Finally someone who has an original thought! Zay Jones is not the answer. He could not get open. The handful of times he did get open he turned into Roberto Duran. Move on. Schmidt can go. Clay needs to go. Injured and over paid. Logan Thomas? C'mon. So far my list stays solid. Thank you for the kind words. Punters are replaceable. It's a toss up between Dennison and Schmidt if you had to pinpoint who lost the game for us on Sunday. Expand You know, a number of people have offered you thoughtful feedback, including myself, but you don't seem very interested in benefiting from it at all. That kind of inclines me to think you really are just trolling. If you aren't, then I'll point out again: 1) The cap implications of moves need to be considered. Your list would generate a huge amount of dead cap, while generating holes to be filled with less cap. That typically is a plan where you lose your hat in the NFL ("any plan where you lose your hat...is a bad plan") 2) You would benefit in your "let go" lists, by differentiating between players who are signed, and have cap implications if released, vs players who are FA Likewise in your "keep" list, by differentiating between players who are signed, and players who are FA and have cap implications to resign 3) Teams don't cut 2nd round rookies in their 2nd season, especially when doing so would generate $3.5M dead money (-$1.5M savings). That's just silly. Likewise, when you have a guy like Clay who is producing (top receiving yards on team) and who costs as much to cut as to keep, there's really no driver to cut him. 4) Last year a huge number of players were cut and replaced because our new coaches wanted to bring in guys who matched their scheme and their evaluation for development potential. But if a team does that every year, it means their GM, scouts, and coaches suck at evaluating depth players with development potential. Are you saying Beane and his staff and McDermott and his staff suck? I don't see a lot of original thought in your list, actually. It seems to be 'cut every depth and PS player, know nothing about salary cap management and don't want to'
Irv Posted January 9, 2018 Author Posted January 9, 2018 On 1/9/2018 at 5:55 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: If you're not trolling, the list is trash. Expand It's better than your list! On 1/9/2018 at 6:12 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: You know, a number of people have offered you thoughtful feedback, including myself, but you don't seem very interested in benefiting from it at all. That kind of inclines me to think you really are just trolling. If you aren't, then I'll point out again: 1) The cap implications of moves need to be considered. Your list would generate a huge amount of dead cap, while generating holes to be filled with less cap. That typically is a plan where you lose your hat in the NFL ("any plan where you lose your hat...is a bad plan") 2) You would benefit in your "let go" lists, by differentiating between players who are signed, and have cap implications if released, vs players who are FA Likewise in your "keep" list, by differentiating between players who are signed, and players who are FA and have cap implications to resign 3) Teams don't cut 2nd round rookies in their 2nd season, especially when doing so would generate $3.5M dead money (-$1.5M savings). That's just silly. Likewise, when you have a guy like Clay who is producing (top receiving yards on team) and who costs as much to cut as to keep, there's really no driver to cut him. 4) Last year a huge number of players were cut and replaced because our new coaches wanted to bring in guys who matched their scheme and their evaluation for development potential. But if a team does that every year, it means their GM, scouts, and coaches suck at evaluating depth players with development potential. Are you saying Beane and his staff and McDermott and his staff suck? I don't see a lot of original thought in your list, actually. It seems to be 'cut every depth and PS player, know nothing about salary cap management and don't want to' Expand I take offense to you calling me names over and over. The guys I labeled "Let Go" I want let go. It's as simple as that. Only one dude took the time to prepare his own list. The rest just nagged like an old lady. Tiring.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 On 1/9/2018 at 6:13 PM, Badthingsman said: It's better than your list! I take offense to you calling me names over and over. The guys I labeled "Let Go" I want let go. It's as simple as that. Only one dude took the time to prepare his own list. The rest just nagged like an old lady. Tiring. Expand OK, I have not called you names. *plonk* (thats the sound of a proven troll falling into my "ignore" bucket)
Irv Posted January 9, 2018 Author Posted January 9, 2018 On 1/9/2018 at 7:03 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: OK, I have not called you names. *plonk* (thats the sound of a proven troll falling into my "ignore" bucket) Expand Thank God. Adios
hemma Posted January 10, 2018 Posted January 10, 2018 Rickey Hatley I guess we picked him up for the practice squad a couple of weeks ago and within a few days was brought up to the team and played some snaps vs Miami (NT). I looked at the box score vs Jax and the guy got 3 tackles (combined) in only 18 snaps. Now I wish I'd recorded the game, just to see if I could pick him out. His # is 94. Anybody comment? Maybe we'll get lucky on this guy. Sure would be nice to not spend a draft choice or get a FA and DT is for sure a big need.
MrEpsYtown Posted January 10, 2018 Posted January 10, 2018 On 1/10/2018 at 3:07 PM, hemma said: Rickey Hatley I guess we picked him up for the practice squad a couple of weeks ago and within a few days was brought up to the team and played some snaps vs Miami (NT). I looked at the box score vs Jax and the guy got 3 tackles (combined) in only 18 snaps. Now I wish I'd recorded the game, just to see if I could pick him out. His # is 94. Anybody comment? Maybe we'll get lucky on this guy. Sure would be nice to not spend a draft choice or get a FA and DT is for sure a big need. Expand Hatley didn't stand out to me. He is tall and big, but isn't really a 1 technique tackle. Looked like he played rather high to me, but he did rotate a bit. I think he's more of a 3-4 defensive end with his build, but hes not a bad Swiss army knife guy for depth. He could play the 1, 3, or heavy defensive end in the under alignment. 1
Manther Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 On 1/9/2018 at 1:04 AM, QuoteTheRaven83 said: Stopped reading after you said keep Ducasse Expand Ya, that makes sense. New OC, old OC, who gives a sh*t this guy is still crap!
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