Mr. WEO Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, judman said: I sure did! You’v never heard something in a bar? All sorts of stuff. Hopefully you ended that conversation with "cool story bro". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Honestly would anything surprise you?? There was an ESPN report I believe on how the Patriots had a lip reading expert in the stands to try and capture coordinator calls on the sideline... Wouldnt be surprised if Ernie Adams is somehow involved...Adams seems to be an integral part of Bellichick's success but nobody knows exactly what he does... I wouldnt be surprised if he is the one who has come up with some ingenious ways for the Patriots to exploit the gray areas of the rule book and why the Patriots seem to always be a step ahead of everyone else... Bellichick would seemingly be lost without him, its said they communicate a lot during games with Bellichick asking for his opinion quite a bit... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/01/29/mysterious-ernie-adams-patriots-man-behind-curtain/IrNCfgrysUphGpkcIjEaBL/amp.html I believe Ernie is a Russian hacker and hacks the NFL replay system showing th eggy in NY different views than what we all see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Marv Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 If there's any truth to any of this then it just makes Dennison sound clinically paranoid. I'm going to move to the sidelines because that guy who I think is a beer vendor won't stop looking at me and the soap dish won't stop laughing at me... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 I’d be pissed if, you know....the beer guy didn’t have any beer! But I’d put nothing past the Cheaters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 22 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Yeah sounds ridiculous. Best part is the OP heard it from some dude in a bar. I don't think it sounds ridiculous at all. I think the details of what exactly was going on have not been well explained, but The Wiz is explaining it probably the way it played out, if it played out at all. I have no doubt that the Patriots do this sort of thing or at least try to do this sort of thing. Remember a year or 2 ago? Chris Collinsworth on SNF said that EVERYONE he knows in the game has told him of communications problems playing in Foxboro at one time or another. Chris never says a bad word about anyone or anything and is always artificially positive...and yet he said this with a tone like "who are we kidding, something sleazy is going on up there in Foxboro and everyone knows it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Honestly would anything surprise you?? There was an ESPN report I believe on how the Patriots had a lip reading expert in the stands to try and capture coordinator calls on the sideline... Wouldnt be surprised if Ernie Adams is somehow involved...Adams seems to be an integral part of Bellichick's success but nobody knows exactly what he does... I wouldnt be surprised if he is the one who has come up with some ingenious ways for the Patriots to exploit the gray areas of the rule book and why the Patriots seem to always be a step ahead of everyone else... Bellichick would seemingly be lost without him, its said they communicate a lot during games with Bellichick asking for his opinion quite a bit... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/01/29/mysterious-ernie-adams-patriots-man-behind-curtain/IrNCfgrysUphGpkcIjEaBL/amp.html Got a link for the lip reader ESPN story? I couldn't find it. What I wouldn't put past BB is paying a guy to stare at the Bills coaching booths to freak them out and crap their pants. But anyway, if Dennison thought he wasbeing spied on, the last thing he ould logically do is go out in the open to the sideline. They would just have the "vendor" tossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Fadingpain said: I don't think it sounds ridiculous at all. I think the details of what exactly was going on have not been well explained, but The Wiz is explaining it probably the way it played out, if it played out at all. I have no doubt that the Patriots do this sort of thing or at least try to do this sort of thing. Remember a year or 2 ago? Chris Collinsworth on SNF said that EVERYONE he knows in the game has told him of communications problems playing in Foxboro at one time or another. Chris never says a bad word about anyone or anything and is always artificially positive...and yet he said this with a tone like "who are we kidding, something sleazy is going on up there in Foxboro and everyone knows it!" I dont either...all teams are paranoid aboit what happens in Foxboro...and likely for good reason...I'm sure all teams have stories that on their face sound ridiculous but when you start piecing them together you see a pattern of the Patriots trying to gain any advantage they can in any way possible...some of which might sound ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Anyone know where the visiting OC would sit at Gillette Stadium? Is it possible it would be in the row of windows immediately adjacent to the red seats in this photo? Like the guy sitting in the highest row of red seats could reach through the window and touch the OC in a certain set of windows. Or would the OC be up above that in a booth in that double level of windows that has no seats immediately in front of it? Looking at this photo I would say it's possible someone could be out in the red seats and strangely staring at what happens inside the booth, depending on where it was exactly. I assume the stadium is built symmetrically so it is the same on the other side of the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Got a link for the lip reader ESPN story? I couldn't find it. What I wouldn't put past BB is paying a guy to stare at the Bills coaching booths to freak them out and crap their pants. But anyway, if Dennison thought he wasbeing spied on, the last thing he ould logically do is go out in the open to the sideline. They would just have the "vendor" tossed. I couldnt find it either but I believe its refernced in this article about Harrison accusing them of stealing 90% of their blitz calls...ironically he is now a member of the dark side... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.elitedaily.com/sports/history-new-england-patriots-allegedly-cheating/910436/amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, matter2003 said: I couldnt find it either but I believe its refernced in this article about Harrison accusing them of stealing 90% of their blitz calls...ironically he is now a member of the dark side... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.elitedaily.com/sports/history-new-england-patriots-allegedly-cheating/910436/amp As NoSaint has said, it would make no sense to dress up a guy as a vendor who could easily be thrown out or shoo'ed away. They would just have someone in a seat do it. And Dennison choosing to leave the booth makes the story impossible to believe. If there is any truth to this, it would be more likely that BB wants the Bills to know he's messing with them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Cheaters gon cheat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Solution for next game in Foxboro (in a couple of weeks I hope) -- see through window tinting via a graphic image of Giselle...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 I heard them on the John Murphy show joking and speculating that this was a possible reason he moved out of the booth, but they were just joking and made it up on the spot. Maybe that is where the story spread from? They also joked about the Pats intercepting radio waves and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: As NoSaint has said, it would make no sense to dress up a guy as a vendor who could easily be thrown out or shoo'ed away. They would just have someone in a seat do it. And Dennison choosing to leave the booth makes the story impossible to believe. If there is any truth to this, it would be more likely that BB wants the Bills to know he's messing with them. I would think it would be a guy with binoculars somewhere with an unobscured view of the Bills coaches box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, matter2003 said: I would think it would be a guy with binoculars somewhere with an unobscured view of the Bills coaches box Like in any stadium.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 51 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Yeah sounds ridiculous. Best part is the OP heard it from some dude in a bar. Randos in the bar are more reputable than CNN, tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Just now, Paulus said: Randos in the bar are more reputable than CNN, tbf. OK, The Donald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Marv Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Paulus said: Randos in the bar are more reputable than CNN, tbf. Aaaaaaaand 2 pages. Took longer than I thought for somebody to randomly inject some political BS, must be the holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: So he was outside a closed booth, watching the booth? Isn't there a TV camera in the booth? Have you heard of glass? Is is a transparent material and windows are made from it. The front of the booth is covered in the stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) There was some clickbait article out there about the Patriots putting thermometers in the Jets tunnel and behind the Jets bench to remind them how cold it is outside. Kind of silly. Edited January 2, 2018 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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