billsfanmiami(oh) Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Antonio Brown gets all the attention in the world and ***** out 2-3 tds a week regularly. A lot of other elite receivers also produce week in and week out. Sammy has elite talent, but he’s not an elite WR. (For many reasons) Just now, Teddy KGB said: 9 tds back in 2015 if you wanna dabble in reality Oh wow sorry that changes the context so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 On 12/29/2017 at 5:33 PM, SJDK said: I was abused by this board received warnings from mods for defending myself and I stand here today to show just what has happened with these two players. You "received warnings from mods for defending" yourself?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, billsfanmiami(oh) said: Antonio Brown gets all the attention in the world and ***** out 2-3 tds a week regularly. A lot of other elite receivers also produce week in and week out. Sammy has elite talent, but he’s not an elite WR. (For many reasons) Oh wow sorry that changes the context so much. Antonio Browns on pace for 32 tds again ??♂️?? Youre going out too deep again. Edited December 31, 2017 by Teddy KGB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Just now, Teddy KGB said: Antonio Browns on pace for 32 tds again ??♂️?? Right and your boy will set a career record with 9 right? And has been healthy exactly 1 year...let’s give him 15 mil! 2 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Antonio Browns on pace for 32 tds again ??♂️?? Anyone who can defend Sammy must have missed the Dunne article where he admitted to not giving his alll and caring more about stats than the team. The fact that not a single person on the Bills was upset about his departure speaks volumes. Shady gives 100% each week and he clowned on Sammy. That told me enough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Total ??. Tell me what Todd Gurley did last year when he averaged 1.5 yards less a carry. Sammy/Woods/OL additions have made that team insanely well rounded Correct. My mans not being truthful due to agenda/vendetta. 12-4 without Sammy too huh ???♂️??♂️ They had a lot of additions and Todd Gurley is their MVP not Sammy Watkins. Gurley may end up the league MVP too and If Watkins was as good as some think, he’d be making more plays. I’m sure the defenses they face would rather not give up 100Yd+ rushing and a bunch of yards receiving to Gurley. You can bet defenses know who is getting the ball and key on Gurley. Yet their #1 receiver has trouble getting the ball. You can’t tell me that defenses are more concerned with Sammy than Gurley. Last year was last year and they added a lot to get that team where it is. Edited December 31, 2017 by SJDK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, SJDK said: They had a lot of additions and Todd Gurley is their MVP not Sammy Watkins. Gurley may end up the league MVP too and If Watkins was as good as some think, he’d be making more plays. I’m sure the defenses they face would rather not give up 100Yd+ rushing and a bunch of yards receiving to Gurley. You can bet defenses know who is getting the ball and key on Gurley. Yet their #1 receiver has trouble getting the ball. You can’t tell me that defenses are more concerned with Sammy than Gurley. Last year was last year and they added a lot to get that team where it is. Why does he need to make more plays ? Are they struggling to score points ? Gurley is def their mvp but wouldn’t be as good if Tavon Austin or Cooper Kupp was wr1 Edited December 31, 2017 by Teddy KGB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 8 hours ago, SJDK said: They had a lot of additions and Todd Gurley is their MVP not Sammy Watkins. Gurley may end up the league MVP too and If Watkins was as good as some think, he’d be making more plays. I’m sure the defenses they face would rather not give up 100Yd+ rushing and a bunch of yards receiving to Gurley. You can bet defenses know who is getting the ball and key on Gurley. Yet their #1 receiver has trouble getting the ball. You can’t tell me that defenses are more concerned with Sammy than Gurley. Last year was last year and they added a lot to get that team where it is. As far as receiving is going he draws the opposition's #1 cb and help. That's indisputable. 9 hours ago, billsfanmiami(oh) said: Antonio Brown gets all the attention in the world and ***** out 2-3 tds a week regularly. A lot of other elite receivers also produce week in and week out. Sammy has elite talent, but he’s not an elite WR. (For many reasons) Oh wow sorry that changes the context so much. You can't catch passes when not thrown too or thrown away. Goff is still learning and is hesitant to throw to Watkins. Agian targets low and looks away from him if McVay doesn't call him as the primary target 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) 22 hours ago, inaugural balls said: These teams weren't performing at that level prior to their arrival? Darby hurt the majority of the season. Marcell walked into a ready made situation as did SW. Yep - as you proclaim them as the reason why. I hope you cleaned up in Vegas because you would have made good money betting those three teams to win the division before the season. Ready made situations... What a bunch of bs, but whatever lessens the sting for you or explains the exodus of talent since we hired the high school coach Edited December 31, 2017 by Ol Dirty B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 7 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: As far as receiving is going he draws the opposition's #1 cb and help. That's indisputable. You can't catch passes when not thrown too or thrown away. Goff is still learning and is hesitant to throw to Watkins. Agian targets low and looks away from him if McVay doesn't call him as the primary target But not too hesitant to throw to Kupp or Bobby? You sammy apologists are funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Ol Dirty B said: I hope you cleaned up in Vegas because you would have made good money betting those three teams to win the division before the season. Ready made situations... What a bunch of bs, but whatever lessens the sting for you or explains the exodus of talent since we hired the high school coach Nobody knew. But those teams were on an upward trajectory is all I'm saying. BTW, I endorse the moves. No skin off my back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, billsfanmiami(oh) said: Antonio Brown gets all the attention in the world and ***** out 2-3 tds a week regularly. A lot of other elite receivers also produce week in and week out. Sammy has elite talent, but he’s not an elite WR. (For many reasons) Oh wow sorry that changes the context so much. You have Antonio brown getting 32 tds and Watkins taking two years to get 8. Do facts or reality just not matter to you? You're completely wrong, give it up. This isn't about context, you are factually wrong. You get called out when you say things that are wrong. 21 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: Nobody knew. But those teams were on an upward trajectory is all I'm saying. BTW, I endorse the moves. No skin off my back. You said ready made. Philly and LA I know weren't any where near favorites in those divisions. And I believe the titans were in the south. But if you like the moves, you like them. I'm not a fan of trading Sammy Watkins for a 2nd, Darby for a 3rd, or Dareus for a 5th. Because you most likely won't draft comparable players in those slots. But this doesn't seem to matter to most bills fans. Why? I can't understand it for the life of me. Dareus is still going to be the biggest cap hit on the team next year. And we got a !@#$ing fifth because the high school coach doesn't understand how to build trade value. 21 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: Edited December 31, 2017 by Ol Dirty B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 21 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: You have Antonio brown getting 32 tds and Watkins taking two years to get 8. Do facts or reality just not matter to you? You're completely wrong, give it up. This isn't about context, you are factually wrong. You get called out when you say things that are wrong. You said ready made. Philly and LA I know weren't any where near favorites in those divisions. And I believe the titans were in the south. But if you like the moves, you like them. I'm not a fan of trading Sammy Watkins for a 2nd, Darby for a 3rd, or Dareus for a 5th. Because you most likely won't draft comparable players in those slots. But this doesn't seem to matter to most bills fans. Why? I can't understand it for the life of me. Dareus is still going to be the biggest cap hit on the team next year. And we got a !@#$ing fifth because the high school coach doesn't understand how to build trade value. You said ready made. Philly and LA I know weren't any where near favorites in those divisions. And I believe the titans were in the south. But if you like the moves, you like them. I'm not a fan of trading Sammy Watkins for a 2nd, Darby for a 3rd, or Dareus for a 5th. Because you most likely won't draft comparable players in those slots. But this doesn't seem to matter to most bills fans. Why? I can't understand it for the life of me. Dareus is still going to be the biggest cap hit on the team next year. And we got a !@#$ing fifth because the high school coach doesn't understand how to build trade value. So what do you think about the coaching staff? ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 13 minutes ago, billsfanmiami(oh) said: But not too hesitant to throw to Kupp or Bobby? You sammy apologists are funny. Single coverage or lost in formations and and that's the call Goff has as he won't throw into coverage. Watch the games and come back when Watkins signs his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Just now, Billsfan1972 said: Single coverage or lost in formations and and that's the call Goff has as he won't throw into coverage. Watch the games and come back when Watkins signs his contract. Havr watched the Rams a lot this year and I see a guy who can look dominant in flashes, then disappears. Also looks lost and confused at times. Pretty much same as he was in Buffalo, except he’s stayed healthy. I don’t think anyone is doubting his talent / ability. I doubt his “intangibles” and that’s why I don’t think he will ever truly be an elite WR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Sammy in SF or DAL? Interesting thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 25 minutes ago, billsfanmiami(oh) said: Havr watched the Rams a lot this year and I see a guy who can look dominant in flashes, then disappears. Also looks lost and confused at times. Pretty much same as he was in Buffalo, except he’s stayed healthy. I don’t think anyone is doubting his talent / ability. I doubt his “intangibles” and that’s why I don’t think he will ever truly be an elite WR. I watch too and like many times you know Goff's reads and the play call and Sammy isn't part of it. It is what it is, and anyone who denies that his absence hasn't affected the Bills is full of it..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Ol Dirty B said: You have Antonio brown getting 32 tds and Watkins taking two years to get 8. Do facts or reality just not matter to you? You're completely wrong, give it up. This isn't about context, you are factually wrong. You get called out when you say things that are wrong. You said ready made. Philly and LA I know weren't any where near favorites in those divisions. And I believe the titans were in the south. But if you like the moves, you like them. I'm not a fan of trading Sammy Watkins for a 2nd, Darby for a 3rd, or Dareus for a 5th. Because you most likely won't draft comparable players in those slots. But this doesn't seem to matter to most bills fans. Why? I can't understand it for the life of me. Dareus is still going to be the biggest cap hit on the team next year. And we got a !@#$ing fifth because the high school coach doesn't understand how to build trade value. Amazing how good QB play changes the fortunes of some (see Philly, LA). Yes, I like the moves. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I'd take Landry and or Watkins on the Bills in 2018. Say what you want about Sammy not 1 player on the current roster is better than him at the WR position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 As I always say: the only mystery with Watkins is why he doesn't get more targets. On a per-target basis, he's utterly dominant. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 On 12/29/2017 at 10:00 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Marcell Dareus AFC South Division Champion, Sammy Watkins NFC West Division Champion, Ronald Darby NFC East Division Champion. Process That! Darby played in like 7 games for the Eagles all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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