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1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

Darby, Gilmore, Darius, Watkins, Woods, Gillislee will ALL be in the playoffs this year and many in the Super Bowl. You can't tell me those guys aren't calling their former Bills teammates and laughing out loud!!

 

Only, I've established this earlier. NONE of those guys are the reason their teams will make the playoffs.

 

 

45 minutes ago, xsoldier54 said:

Relax.  The team is 5-5 after 10 games.  Pretty ugly the last three weeks, but lots of football left to be played this year.  Could be a hell of a lot worse.  Cleveland is 0-10 for the second straight year.  I was expecting some growing pains this year and we're seeing that the past three weeks.  I fully expect this team to play better football down the stretch.

I don't think many Bills fans are able to see the big picture after all these years of futility.   I agree with you 100%.  Patience is a virtue.  First year of a new FO and coaching staff.  Not getting it done the past three weeks, but the season is far from over.

 

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I'm more than a little suspicious of 'the process'. The current showing for it seems to be 'my way, or the highway'. McDermott (or Beane) hasn't earned the right to do that yet, as he's proven nothing.

 

I can see the rationale behind most of the trades, some of which come down to money decisions. Thing is, they have been shown to be mistakes, on two counts.

 

Firstly, the Watkins trade, which became almost inevitable when they decided not to pick up his last year option. The injury concerns were not unreasonable, and yet we've had to go out and trade for another receiver, to replace him, in one way or another. And he's now injured.

 

A similar scenario has played out with Dareus. The middle has been torn out of the D-Line, to the extent that they had to dump a lightweight DT, and bring back a bigger body, just to try and replace what they traded away for next to nothing.

 

Dareus in the middle, wasn't getting run on, and teams didn't try to go there regularly, meaning that life became easier for the LBers and secondary.

 

A few years back, towards the end of a season, Dareus missed a game against, I think, the Raiders. The D had been playing really well, yet the Raiders ran all over us. I think that was when Schwartz was DC. Makes you wonder how much relevant film that the coaches watched, before deciding that our run D was going to be just dandy without Dareus.

 

Seems to me that some of 'the process', needs a good deal of refinement, before it will work, and it also seems as though that 'refinement', is going to have to be done in respect of self criticism, by McDermott and Beane.

 

 

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4 hours ago, xsoldier54 said:

Relax.  The team is 5-5 after 10 games.  Pretty ugly the last three weeks, but lots of football left to be played this year.  Could be a hell of a lot worse.  Cleveland is 0-10 for the second straight year.  I was expecting some growing pains this year and we're seeing that the past three weeks.  I fully expect this team to play better football down the stretch.

I don't think many Bills fans are able to see the big picture after all these years of futility.   I agree with you 100%.  Patience is a virtue.  First year of a new FO and coaching staff.  Not getting it done the past three weeks, but the season is far from over.

 

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4 hours ago, xsoldier54 said:

Relax.  The team is 5-5 after 10 games.  Pretty ugly the last three weeks, but lots of football left to be played this year.  Could be a hell of a lot worse.  Cleveland is 0-10 for the second straight year.  I was expecting some growing pains this year and we're seeing that the past three weeks.  I fully expect this team to play better football down the stretch.

 

If we aren't in the playoffs I would much rather be 0-10.

 

It is "possible" the Bills rebound and make the playoffs, but we all know they won't.

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3 hours ago, joesixpack said:

 

Only, I've established this earlier. NONE of those guys are the reason their teams will make the playoffs.

 

 

 

Do you really think the guys in the Bills Locker Room care that "none of those guys are the reason"?  All they know is that while they are sitting home in January, some of their ex-teammates are going to be on the big stage with confetti coming down all around them.

 

 

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1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

Do you really think the guys in the Bills Locker Room care that "none of those guys are the reason"?  All they know is that while they are sitting home in January, some of their ex-teammates are going to be on the big stage with confetti coming down all around them.

 

only Super Bowl winners get the confetti kid.

 

And i am HIGHLY confident that at most Gilmore/Gilislee will experience this.

 

Deep breaths man. Perhaps a paper bag.

 

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1 minute ago, joesixpack said:

 

 

only Super Bowl winners get the confetti kid.

 

And i am HIGHLY confident that at most Gilmore/Gilislee will experience this.

 

Deep breaths man. Perhaps a paper bag.

 

First of all I'm not a kid...not even close Joe.  Second, I said SOME of their ex-teammates.  Now you breath!

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2 hours ago, joesixpack said:

 

 

only Super Bowl winners get the confetti kid.

 

And i am HIGHLY confident that at most Gilmore/Gilislee will experience this.

 

Deep breaths man. Perhaps a paper bag.

 

 

 

Your takes are so epically bad this year.:lol:

 

Rico has gotten a lot quieter recently..........I think you might end up being the last one buying into what will HOPEFULLY be the final extension of the Ralph Wilson regime.

 

Get a Czar Pegs........don't keep being like Ralphy.

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8 hours ago, Dr. K said:
hu·bris
ˈ(h)yo͞obrəs/
noun
 
  1. excessive pride or self-confidence.
    synonyms: arrogance, conceit, haughtiness, hauteur, pride, self-importance, egotism, pomposity, superciliousness, superiority; 
    informalbig-headedness, cockiness
    "the hubris among economists was shaken"
       
    • (in Greek tragedy) excessive pride toward or defiance of the gods, leading to nemesis.
       
       
      Thanks to them what we have here is essentially an expansion team that has been in the league for 57 years, with a lot of older, declining players and a dearth of young talent. 

 

WTF. It only seems like hubris because they won 5 out of 7 games. If they just sucked from the get go as expected, they would be "wisely rebuilding for the future."  Because they tried to shoot for a playoff slot, now they're stupid. Here's a clue. If Tyrod started the Bills still would have been crushed by the Bolts, and the narrative would be McD is too stubborn to go with Peterman.

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2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

WTF. It only seems like hubris because they won 5 out of 7 games. If they just sucked from the get go as expected, they would be "wisely rebuilding for the future."  Because they tried to shoot for a playoff slot, now they're stupid. Here's a clue. If Tyrod started the Bills still would have been crushed by the Bolts, and the narrative would be McD is too stubborn to go with Peterman.

I see the "rebuilding for the future" but I object to the "wisely." I call them hubristic not because of the Peterman/Tyrod melodrama, but because they have drained this roster of young talent in order to get "their guys" and insist on an offensive scheme ill suited to the players on the team. 

 

 

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31 minutes ago, Dr. K said:

I see the "rebuilding for the future" but I object to the "wisely." I call them hubristic not because of the Peterman/Tyrod melodrama, but because they have drained this roster of young talent in order to get "their guys" and insist on an offensive scheme ill suited to the players on the team. 

 

 

They did what more than half the people here wanted. Don't act like you're shocked.

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First time young head coach syndrome. Josh McDaniels comes to mind. Those guys get fired and then a dull old man comes in. It's the great NFL Cycle of Life.  Loudmouth "Players Coach" (Rex) begets Intense Disciplinarian begets Stable Ol' Retread.  Marvin Lewis will be fired this year, making the timing perfect for his Bills debut in 2019.

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1 hour ago, WildBills said:

Beane is a clown. Darby looks great. Seymour is starting for Carolina. Dareus is stuffing the middle in Jacksonville the way he should be here. Can't believe this idiot and his great trades. 

 

Darby looks great? He’s played in two games!

 

smh

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