Nitro Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 They have spun their wheels for 20 years. Use a high draft pick to replace a player they let go or did not resign only to use a high draft pick to replace him. Corner backs, DTs, WRs and this list goes on. Dareus and Watkins are the latest. Now you have needs at WR and DT. Next draft will be crucial. The cycle of a new coach hired, reset the roster to fit his needs only to fire him in a year or two. Then the roster is a bunch of square pegs and round holes. In a word aggravating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 the next draft...right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I think this GM/coach will stick around. They will have a long leash, unlike past Pegula hires when they relied on other people picking coaches for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Just now, SDS said: I think this GM/coach will stick around. They will have a long leash, unlike past Pegula hires when they relied on other people picking coaches for them. You'd better be right or we're all in a world of ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 I know what happened today sucks but pinning the last 17 years on this regime is silly and said under emotional duress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, SDS said: I think this GM/coach will stick around. They will have a long leash, unlike past Pegula hires when they relied on other people picking coaches for them. IMO the Pegulas should be 100% hands off on both of thier franchises. After firing those teams president of course. harsh but they are rudderless with the exception of insanely deepockets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, joesixpack said: You'd better be right or we're all in a world of ****. The owners know this team is talent starved. Regardless of what happened the last three weeks, it isn't a Rex Ryan clown show. It's a talent-poor show. The owners will be patient while that talent is accumulated. 1 minute ago, Best Player Available said: IMO the Pegulas should be 100% hands off on both of thier franchises. After firing those teams president of course. harsh but they are rudderless with the exception of insanely deepockets. They are not rudderless at all. Both teams have serious professionals in all positions. Both teams are talent poor and in the first months of massive changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Zack brown, watkins would have helped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, SDS said: The owners know this team is talent starved. Regardless of what happened the last three weeks, it isn't a Rex Ryan clown show. It's a talent-poor show. The owners will be patient while that talent is accumulated. They are not rudderless at all. Both teams have serious professionals in all positions. Both teams are talent poor and in the first months of massive changes. Both teams are unproven. The Sabres are hard too watch and Pegula has owned them for years now, I guess hoping the right pieces are in place for the future is all fans have. The Bills ex players for the most part are showing their talent this season all on other teams. But I agree the franchise is talent poor. And next year in all likelyhood will be worse in the W column. Even if they 100% on draft picks. That said yes give this new regime 3 years. After that they can join the list of contracted FO staff still on the payroll. Pegula should have got the football guru that was rumored. Coughlin looks like a plus for the Jags right now. Signing a rookie management staff is risky. I think ownership may have figured that out now. imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 14 minutes ago, SDS said: I think this GM/coach will stick around. They will have a long leash, unlike past Pegula hires when they relied on other people picking coaches for them. Ummm ... Marrone was hired before the Pegulas bought the team. The Pegulas have nobody but themselves to blame for Rex Ryan and his clown show since they wanted him even though Whaley wanted somebody else, supposedly Hue Jackson. I believe that the Bills used a search committee to select McDermott, and that Beane was hired after him, after the draft, possibly with McDermott's input. Nice revisionist history, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st&ten Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 14 minutes ago, SDS said: I think this GM/coach will stick around. They will have a long leash, unlike past Pegula hires when they relied on other people picking coaches for them. I agree. They aren't the first regime that's had a rocky start. I think next year will be more indicative of were their potential lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, Helpmenow said: Zack brown, watkins would have helped everyone I remember wanted Brown gone after the Steelers game last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, BillsEnthusiast said: everyone I remember wanted Brown gone after the Steelers game last year. Better than brown in the middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 15 minutes ago, SDS said: The owners know this team is talent starved. Regardless of what happened the last three weeks, it isn't a Rex Ryan clown show. It's a talent-poor show. The owners will be patient while that talent is accumulated. They are not rudderless at all. Both teams have serious professionals in all positions. Both teams are talent poor and in the first months of massive changes. Why are both teams "talent starved"? Oh, yeah! Because those "serious professionals" jettisoned almost all of the best and youngest talent on the teams in order to fill them with scrubs. Those "serious professionals" are simply playing money ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 This team looks no better now than when we had Chan and Fitz. We’ve spent years drafting high but we don’t have a single young stud on this team. Meanwhile McD keeps repeating the whole process thing but can anyone say what his vision is? What’s the plan really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 27 minutes ago, Nitro said: They have spun their wheels for 20 years. Use a high draft pick to replace a player they let go or did not resign only to use a high draft pick to replace him. Corner backs, DTs, WRs and this list goes on. Dareus and Watkins are the latest. Now you have needs at WR and DT. Next draft will be crucial. The cycle of a new coach hired, reset the roster to fit his needs only to fire him in a year or two. Then the roster is a bunch of square pegs and round holes. In a word aggravating. They traded away young talent for pennies on the dollar, this team has almost zero young talent other maybe the rookie corner. This is a complete mess at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: How do you figure? We are in a world of **** right now. If you can these guys and bring in people WHO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING you'll see a quick turn around. The problem is the Bills are so inept they don't bring in people who know what they are doing. You just answered your own question. The one thing this team hasn’t tried is giving a crew a minimum of five years. DO IT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, SoTier said: Ummm ... Marrone was hired before the Pegulas bought the team. The Pegulas have nobody but themselves to blame for Rex Ryan and his clown show since they wanted him even though Whaley wanted somebody else, supposedly Hue Jackson. I believe that the Bills used a search committee to select McDermott, and that Beane was hired after him, after the draft, possibly with McDermott's input. Nice revisionist history, though. Brandon pushed for Ryan or maybe you just forgot that? The search committee had McDermott selected in the group and then the Pegulas chose from there. If you are going to correct me - get your **** right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Bangarang said: This team looks no better now than when we had Chan and Fitz. We’ve spent years drafting high but we don’t have a single young stud on this team. Meanwhile McD keeps repeating the whole process thing but can anyone say what his vision is? What’s the plan really? McDermott and Beane have stripped the team of talent the way Jauron did. Chan inherited Jauron's expansion team and actually added some talent. Whaley added more ... and McDermott and Beane have remedied that in short order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 The Bills are living the legacy of frequent coach and GM changes. They will neeed to stay the course in the midst of this storm or we will become the Browns organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, BuffaloBill said: The Bills are living the legacy of frequent coach and GM changes. They will neeed to stay the course in the midst of this storm or we will become the Browns organization. Hate to break it to you but you but we are the Browns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 31 minutes ago, SDS said: I think this GM/coach will stick around. They will have a long leash, unlike past Pegula hires when they relied on other people picking coaches for them. amazing. cheers to 5 more years without success Thanks Pegula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts