elroy16 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) He certainly has dropped a couple of easily catchable passes. Which ones? The article mention four, I gave four, granted one or two of those may not be what they were mentioning. I can go back and rewatch the games if you tell me what game and about when you think it happened. I honestly don't remember a single pass, that hit him in stride, that he's dropped. For example. Edited October 19, 2017 by elroy16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 Which ones? The article mention four, I gave four, granted one or two of those may not be what they were mentioning. I can go back and rewatch the games if you tell me what game and about when you think it happened. I honestly don't remember a single pass, that hit him in the chest, that he's dropped. The ones I remember off the top are a quick screen against the Bengals and a deep pass against the Falcons that should have been routine catches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) The ones I remember off the top are a quick screen against the Bengals and a deep pass against the Falcons that should have been routine catches. First ones that came to mind. Along with the pass against Denver that was caught by Holmes in the back of the end zone. Edited October 19, 2017 by Captain Murica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 First ones that came to mind. Along with the pass against Denver that was caught by Holmes in the back of the end zone. Another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) The ones I remember off the top are a quick screen against the Bengals and a deep pass against the Falcons that should have been routine catches. The quick screen was near the end zone, at his knees, right? That is the worst of his drops, imo. Was the deep pass against the Falcons the one where he kinda dove? He should have had that as well, but I think half dive screwed him up a bit. I still don't know if I'd call that an easy, routine catch, but I can see your side of it. Like Buffalo716 said, he's coming from the AAC. Yes he played against some big schools, but the NFL has to be a big jump for him. I'm not going to get down on him yet. Another one. I mentioned that one already. A quick pass, high and wide. A catchable ball, but not easy. Edited October 19, 2017 by elroy16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 At the same time he had fantastic numbers against power 5 opponents in college and was (arguably) the best player on the field at the Senior Bowl. He was excellent. I think it just shows the huge jump from AAC to NFL. Your mind is constantly racing to remember all your nuances and the speed of everything is lightning quick. You need to be 100% sharp or you are gonna slip up I'm not super worried . I really believe he is having some problems adapting to the speed of the game. The defenders , the ball, everything. He needs a nice TD to calm himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 At the same time he had fantastic numbers against power 5 opponents in college and was (arguably) the best player on the field at the Senior Bowl. Agreed - hands are hands. Bums me out to see Cooper Kupp doing well while this kid literally drops the ball though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Agreed - hands are hands. Bums me out to see Cooper Kupp doing well while this kid literally drops the ball though. He's already had his game winning TD drop this year as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 He's already had his game winning TD drop this year as well. He's quickly becoming Goff's go-to guy, on a team that has Woods and Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Here's a link to Zay's drop against the falcons. https://twitter.com/Allen_Strk/status/915752356859523072 It's a pass you really want him to catch, but you can't persuade me into thinking this is an easy catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Which is more likely to catch a pass this week, one hand attached to Jordan Matthews or two hands attached to Zay Jones? I do believe Zay will turn the yips in yippies, but it's taking a long damn time we cannot afford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 First ones that came to mind. Along with the pass against Denver that was caught by Holmes in the back of the end zone. Another ball that you would like caught, but I wouldn't call it easy. We're basically arguing semantics at this point. My point is I'm not going to be too concerned about a promising rookie, 5 games into his career, because of these drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 He's quickly becoming Goff's go-to guy, on a team that has Woods and Watkins Oh, I love Cooper Kupp. I have him on all my fantasy teams. Has had a few stinkers but the kid generally has a good set of hands on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 He was excellent. I think it just shows the huge jump from AAC to NFL. Your mind is constantly racing to remember all your nuances and the speed of everything is lightning quick. You need to be 100% sharp or you are gonna slip up I'm not super worried . I really believe he is having some problems adapting to the speed of the game. The defenders , the ball, everything. He needs a nice TD to calm himself Do not "super worry".......whatever you do. He's just a second round pick and check out the Bills history with second round picks........not nearly as valuable an asset as you might think......lotta' busts......a few meh's..........and the few better ones usually only happen in years where they aren't reaching for need because they don't have a first round pick(Thurman, Cowart, Darby). Point is NOBODY should "super worry".......if he's a bust, he's a bust........it is just a YET ANOTHER cautionary about trading up for or using early picks on lower ceiling "off the bus starters" to plug holes that should have been addressed in free agency..........for every Tre White there are many more that struggle and serve as weak links in your lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Title should be changed. We're beyond a "slow start," heading into week 7. The question is now, "Is Zay Jones a Bust?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) Title should be changed. We're beyond a "slow start," heading into week 7. The question is now, "Is Zay Jones a Bust?" Done. Edited October 19, 2017 by elroy16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Title should be changed. We're beyond a "slow start," heading into week 7. The question is now, "Is Zay Jones a Bust?" No, no according to the Shaq rule you can mantain your rookie status into year two if you play less than 10.5 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Do not "super worry".......whatever you do. He's just a second round pick and check out the Bills history with second round picks........not nearly as valuable an asset as you might think......lotta' busts......a few meh's..........and the few better ones usually only happen in years where they aren't reaching for need because they don't have a first round pick(Thurman, Cowart, Darby). Point is NOBODY should "super worry".......if he's a bust, he's a bust........it is just a YET ANOTHER cautionary about trading up for or using early picks on lower ceiling "off the bus starters" to plug holes that should have been addressed in free agency..........for every Tre White there are many more that struggle and serve as weak links in your lineup. Yea that's why I'm not worried. If he pans out great, if not it wouldn't be the first or the last time a WR couldn't adjust to the NFL. There are a lot of second round recievers who never amounted to much in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 rookie wideouts always struggle although it been worse than i thought he'll be a good player in time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Yea that's why I'm not worried. If he pans out great, if not it wouldn't be the first or the last time a WR couldn't adjust to the NFL. There are a lot of second round recievers who never amounted to much in the league Yep and the Bills have supplied their share. It's amazing how often THAT position has been a priority to find an immediate starter at..........and how empty they've come up........even Bob Woods was a disappointment..........and yet they keep waiting until the draft to address starting WR needs. You never get ahead drafting for need..........it's almost a given that you subsequently pass on better players in the process.......it's uncanny their success in the second round when they go into a draft KNOWING that they can't fill all their needs and just draft bpa in round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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