DC Tom Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 was he though? never produced a real birth cert... He may be, but we will never really know. what we do know is that he is a globalist who wanted to destroy america's economy and culture to bring about his one world NWO. Is it a surprise that the stock market is hitting record highs after he got out of office, and a nationalist business man took over? His mother was a US citizen. Ergo, he was a natural-born US citizen, deriving citizenship from his mother. There's only two types of citizenship: naturalized, and natural born. There's no third type of "Well, you were born a citizen, but not within US borders, so it doesn't count if you want to be President." And birth certificates were produced...but anyone who mistakenly believed this was an issue, and mistakenly believe he wasn't a citizen, wasn't going to believe any birth certificate provided anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 Is it a surprise that the stock market is hitting record highs after he got out of office, and a nationalist business man took over? Not much 'bend' in that trend... https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjM29_nnbzWAhWEPiYKHSUOCGgQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.infomine.com%2Finvestment%2Fstock-markets%2Findexes%2Fgspc%2F5-year%2F&psig=AFQjCNGa07b_QXxHLaonyFvKphnaMOXp8A&ust=1506287868560077 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 I'll start with a couple. Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump Sadly, because president Obama has done such a poor job as president, you won't see another black president for generations! Or this one saying the overwhelming majority of all violent crime is committed by blacks and hispanics -https://mobile.twitter.com/Freeyourmindkid/status/908172588886753280/photo/3 Here's the crime rates by race - https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf Or the one where he said his judge in the Trump University scam case has a conflict of interest because he wants to build a wall and the judge was of Mexican descent. Or when he said that almost all immigrants coming in to the US were rapists and drug dealers. (again, not true) He didn't say " almost all immigrants " that is fiction. A quick note on those violent crime stats ( particularly murders). It appears blacks made up a higher percentage , though they are a much smaller percentage of the total population. Trump also said " in our major cities". How does this appear incorrect, or even racist. He's only talking about numbers and facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Because people don't have an irrational fear of being slaughtered by Indians the same way they do about the irrational fear of Muslims. I agree he exploited a fringe controversy but this fringe are scared of Muslims and it's racist not religious. Not to butt in, but was this the topic in which you were discussing the blacks' fear of mistreatment by cops? How do you dictate which fear is rational? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 I'll start with a couple. Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump Sadly, because president Obama has done such a poor job as president, you won't see another black president for generations! Or this one saying the overwhelming majority of all violent crime is committed by blacks and hispanics -https://mobile.twitter.com/Freeyourmindkid/status/908172588886753280/photo/3 Here's the crime rates by race - https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf Or the one where he said his judge in the Trump University scam case has a conflict of interest because he wants to build a wall and the judge was of Mexican descent. Or when he said that almost all immigrants coming in to the US were rapists and drug dealers. (again, not true) Or when he and his father were sued by Nixon's DOJ for not renting to blacks, or when he told a subordinate in the '90's that he didn't want any black accountants, only Jewish ones, or his not wanting to see black dealers at his casinos, or when he pretended not to know who David Duke was last year so as to not have to disavow him (which he eventually did under more pressure), or his full-page ad against the Central Park Five (later exonerated by DNA evidence). That's just off the top of my head. You could almost literally go on all day. I'd forgotten what a cesspool this forum was. Now I remember why I rarely visit it...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Not to butt in, but was this the topic in which you were discussing the blacks' fear of mistreatment by cops? How do you dictate which fear is rational? Unrelated. I was only referring here to a specific post by a specific poster, Rob's House, who I respect a lot even when I don't agree with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Is he upset that whites are twice as likely to be shot by the police than blacks? Too bad that there are about 7 times as many whites in the US (maybe more)....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Unrelated. I was only referring here to a specific post by a specific poster, Rob's House, who I respect a lot even when I don't agree with him. Sorry, lots of cross talk, can't remember which topic was which. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) I'll start with a couple. Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump Sadly, because president Obama has done such a poor job as president, you won't see another black president for generations! Assuming that's an accurate quote, it's still not really racist. Or this one saying the overwhelming majority of all violent crime is committed by blacks and hispanics - https://mobile.twitter.com/Freeyourmindkid/status/908172588886753280/photo/3 Here's the crime rates by race - https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf That's a fact. Is this what they mean by "hate fact" ? And your quote is incorrect and your stats don't inform the situation as they don't differentiate between white and hispanic, nor do they isolate stats for the inner city. Or the one where he said his judge in the Trump University scam case has a conflict of interest because he wants to build a wall and the judge was of Mexican descent. another misquote, and suggesting that the judge's involvement in hispanic advocacy groups could indicate bias isn't racist. Or when he said that almost all immigrants coming in to the US were rapists and drug dealers. (again, not true)He never said that. So you offered me up your best, had to misquote him to try to make him sound racist, and still couldn't come up with anything. Are there any others or is that it? Edited September 23, 2017 by Rob's House Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) Too bad that there are about 7 times as many whites in the US (maybe more)....... So you are saying that whites should be about 7 times more likely to be shot by a police officer than blacks? This might hold true if statistics showed that whites committed 7 times as many crimes as blacks . Someone posted FBI stats that showed a higher percentage of murder/ manslaughter to blacks than whites, but a similar share of the overall percentage in total . While making up a much smaller overall % of population. That likely means more interactions with police , if we assume they are doing their jobs and not just making sure they pull granny over so they can feel they have been fair and equitable to everyone. This might explain the higher likelihood of being shot by police relative to their makeup in the populace. Or that many are living in concentrated areas of higher crime. Still, that whites are doubly likely to be shot would reflect the probability that cops are just reacting to those who don't follow instructions in a dangerous situation and not the race of the suspect. Edited September 23, 2017 by Boatdrinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 a higher goal percentage of murder/ manslaughter to blacks than whites,high goal? For murder? C'mon?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 high goal? For murder? C'mon?! Oops typo. Edited the post thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Oops typo. Edited the post thank you.typo. Goal. To percentage Are you cho? Trying to get a high score is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 typo. Goal. To percentage Are you cho? Trying to get a high score is bad. Not sure what I was attempting to type there at first, but the iPad has this autocorrect thing . Obviously there is no " goal " percentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) Assuming that's an accurate quote, it's still not really racist. That's a fact. Is this what they mean by "hate fact" ? And your quote is incorrect and your stats don't inform the situation as they don't differentiate between white and hispanic, nor do they isolate stats for the inner city. another misquote, and suggesting that the judge's involvement in hispanic advocacy groups could indicate bias isn't racist. He never said that. So you offered me up your best, had to misquote him to try to make him sound racist, and still couldn't come up with anything. Are there any others or is that it? I would consider these "insensitive", and these are very sensitive people you are trying to reason with. Don't worry though, when they start trying to hold each other to their own ridiculous standards, it will all crumble. Edited September 23, 2017 by OJABBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juror#8 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 You know what would be cool, if I could read a !@#$ing topic about Trump without reading something about Obama. I didn't like it with w and Obama nor with Clinton and w. It's just a bunch of false equivalence and non sequiturs and weird parallelisms that scream louder than !@#$ that most of you have no earthly clue what you're talking about or how to construct a cogent argument. Focus !@#$ers. What would also be cool is if you dicklicks would stop acting as if racism didn't exist. It does. Is it a seething undercurrent of divisive cultural sentiment that predicates every aspect of society? Of course not. Is it part of the architecture of our mainstream American ethos? !@#$ no. But does it exist and are their ball-washing racist scoundrels who make **** tough for !@#$s? Yup. It's a thing !@#$ers. If you deny it, then you're a dolt. Maybe you're a racist "dolt" which, incidentally, is marginally better than just being a standard issue "dolt" because at least your doltishness is driven by a sense of purpose. That's all I got. I'm thinking about going to get laid, or at least enjoying a spirited episode of intense maturbation with "getting laid" as the primary mental focal point. Peace niggas(ers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 You know what would be cool, if I could read a !@#$ing topic about Trump without reading something about Obama. I didn't like it with w and Obama nor with Clinton and w. It's just a bunch of false equivalence and non sequiturs and weird parallelisms that scream louder than !@#$ that most of you have no earthly clue what you're talking about or how to construct a cogent argument. Focus !@#$ers. What would also be cool is if you dicklicks would stop acting as if racism didn't exist. It does. Is it a seething undercurrent of divisive cultural sentiment that predicates every aspect of society? Of course not. Is it part of the architecture of our mainstream American ethos? !@#$ no. But does it exist and are their ball-washing racist scoundrels who make **** tough for !@#$s? Yup. It's a thing !@#$ers. If you deny it, then you're a dolt. Maybe you're a racist "dolt" which, incidentally, is marginally better than just being a standard issue "dolt" because at least your doltishness is driven by a sense of purpose. That's all I got. I'm thinking about going to get laid, or at least enjoying a spirited episode of intense maturbation with "getting laid" as the primary mental focal point. Peace niggas(ers). Triggered! Good to see you - good luck tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 You know what would be cool, if I could read a !@#$ing topic about Trump without reading something about Obama. I didn't like it with w and Obama nor with Clinton and w. It's just a bunch of false equivalence and non sequiturs and weird parallelisms that scream louder than !@#$ that most of you have no earthly clue what you're talking about or how to construct a cogent argument. Focus !@#$ers. What would also be cool is if you dicklicks would stop acting as if racism didn't exist. It does. Is it a seething undercurrent of divisive cultural sentiment that predicates every aspect of society? Of course not. Is it part of the architecture of our mainstream American ethos? !@#$ no. But does it exist and are their ball-washing racist scoundrels who make **** tough for !@#$s? Yup. It's a thing !@#$ers. If you deny it, then you're a dolt. Maybe you're a racist "dolt" which, incidentally, is marginally better than just being a standard issue "dolt" because at least your doltishness is driven by a sense of purpose. That's all I got. I'm thinking about going to get laid, or at least enjoying a spirited episode of intense maturbation with "getting laid" as the primary mental focal point. Peace niggas(ers). At this point, I embrace racism. I'm pretty sure there's going to be a race war in the near future, and I sure as hell ain't aligning myself with the people who want to kill me for the color of my skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juror#8 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 At this point, I embrace racism. I'm pretty sure there's going to be a race war in the near future, and I sure as hell ain't aligning myself with the people who want to kill me for the color of my skin. I agree brother. It's straight up tribalism at this point. Survival mathematics at its finest. Triggered! Good to see you - good luck tonight! You get to that point where you have to step off the sidelines and intervene. About every six months or so for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) I agree brother. It's straight up tribalism at this point. Survival mathematics at its finest. You get to that point where you have to step off the sidelines and intervene. About every six months or so for me. It doesn't have to be. I think people are still adjusting to social media, and the idea that everyone and anyone's opinion can get attention. Then there is the fact that people's opinions are held on permanent record, so they double down on their often misinformed opinion. For instance, the "Clock Boy" incident. When that came out, I immediately saw very strong opinions about how he was wronged, society's terrible, etc. It soon came to light that there was more to the story, but no one wants to be wrong! They have been mouthing off, calling "friends" names, connecting the story to a myriad of other societal ill's and injustices, and generally digging such a deep hole, that they will never want to admit they were wrong. I see this with Trump haters. No matter what he does, they have dug in on "he's just like Hitler", so there is no room for compromise. They have staked their entire identity on opposing him, driven by hysteria mostly generated by the mainstream media. I swear, I have NEVER seen someone come back on Facebook to correct some silly misinformation they had disseminated ("Oh, sorry, this was actually bull ****...my bad")..never. Edited September 23, 2017 by OJABBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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