Buffalo716 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Down to 2 ******* forwards next year... just when I saw the light at the end of the tunnel... lost our best recruit in years... recruitng class in shambles and will we ever pull a top recruit again? I'm pretty sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Wonder if Moyer would have left....if Brissett declares we are screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Wonder if Moyer would have left....if Brissett declares we are screwed. Idk if it's true but Moyer and Bazley are friends and I'm hearing some rumblings he could've said some things to sway his opinion on coming to Cuse either way it's a horrible day for Syracuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I believe Bazley has now played for two different high schools, four or so different AAU programs and decommitted from two colleges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I believe Bazley has now played for two different high schools, four or so different AAU programs and decommitted from two colleges. Who did he decommit to before SU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, bbb said: Who did he decommit to before SU? Ohio State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Ohio State I had the feeling that it was since Yolo seemed pissed, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 34 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Idk if it's true but Moyer and Bazley are friends and I'm hearing some rumblings he could've said some things to sway his opinion on coming to Cuse either way it's a horrible day for Syracuse I was actually hoping this meant Moyer would come back. Lot more playing time suddenly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: I was actually hoping this meant Moyer would come back. Lot more playing time suddenly. That could also be a possibility... today sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 I fully expect brissette and Battle to be gone as well. Out of all of the one and dones that all these factories churn out, Cuse who gets a player like this maybe every decade, is the first victim of the G league. Of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 11 minutes ago, inkman said: I fully expect brissette and Battle to be gone as well. Out of all of the one and dones that all these factories churn out, Cuse who gets a player like this maybe every decade, is the first victim of the G league. Of course. Brissette isn't leaving yet imo... i would be calling Tyus daily begging him to come back because we need it WTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Hearing now that Moyer leaving had less to do with potential PT next year, and more to do with Boeheim treating him like **** after his ankle injury. There may be some substance to Moyer having some influence over Bazley’s decision after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Hearing now that Moyer leaving had less to do with potential PT next year, and more to do with Boeheim treating him like **** after his ankle injury. There may be some substance to Moyer having some influence over Bazley’s decision after all. I know Moyer didn't like how he was treated and even had his dad hold him out of a game... but SU had a thin bench and needed him for any minutes... we pushed Sidibe through injury as well Playing for Boeheim isn't easy and Moyer should have known that... he will ride you... For as much as Moyer bled orange , he fled fast, and Boeheim only got on him because that's how you get the best out of people... if he got in Bazleys ear screw him... and he will ride the bench at Xavier or Alabama as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I just can’t get over this. In a matter of minutes, this went from a top-5 team to back to the bubble. If brissett leaves, i am not sure what would be left of my emotional well-being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: I just can’t get over this. In a matter of minutes, this went from a top-5 team to back to the bubble. If brissett leaves, i am not sure what would be left of my emotional well-being. Im rattled... I can't believe this... i never thought id say it but is SU on the downslope... first time EVER having a decommitt iirc i dont know if we will ever pull a top 10 kid again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Just now, Buffalo716 said: Im rattled... I can't believe this... i never thought id say it but is SU on the downslope... first time EVER having a decommitt iirc i dont know if we will ever pull a top 10 kid again I almost wonder if this works out for Bazley, this could be devastating to college b-ball as a whole. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 minute ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: I almost wonder if this works out for Bazley, this could be devastating to college b-ball as a whole. Its going to open floodgates... I wouldn't be surprised to see others do the same... but it happened to us first and it stings 2 forwards... that's all we have... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Its going to open floodgates... I wouldn't be surprised to see others do the same... but it happened to us first and it stings 2 forwards... that's all we have... If this is what happens, then get rid of the “1 and done” rule. Let guys go straight from HS to NBA. They need to get rid of the G-league already. Who watches that garbage anyway? I can’t believe they generate enough revenue to even cover the costs of the salaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 23 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I know Moyer didn't like how he was treated and even had his dad hold him out of a game... but SU had a thin bench and needed him for any minutes... we pushed Sidibe through injury as well Playing for Boeheim isn't easy and Moyer should have known that... he will ride you... For as much as Moyer bled orange , he fled fast, and Boeheim only got on him because that's how you get the best out of people... if he got in Bazleys ear screw him... and he will ride the bench at Xavier or Alabama as well Agreed, however, Boeheim’s coaching style (particularly the way he treats his players) is antiquated. Kids (and parents) are different these days. Boeheim has developed a reputation for being a d**k, and I think it has affected recruiting. How many other major college coaches do you see screaming at their players on the bench? Not many. That approach just doesn’t work with these kids anymore. And who the hell knows what goes on in the locker room...behind closed doors. Not saying this whole mess is JB’s fault at all. Just pointing out that maybe he is long overdue for retirement. Letting Hop walk is going to haunt this program for some time, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 minute ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: If this is what happens, then get rid of the “1 and done” rule. Let guys go straight from HS to NBA. They need to get rid of the G-league already. Who watches that garbage anyway? I can’t believe they generate enough revenue to even cover the costs of the salaries. Yea, never watched 1 second... they need to get rid of the rule because basketball programs become FACTORIES Coach K hardly develops talent... he brings in the best and they leave after 1 year sometimes 2... and we get screwed with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Just now, Johnny Hammersticks said: Agreed, however, Boeheim’s coaching style (particularly the way he treats his players) is antiquated. Kids (and parents) are different these days. Boeheim has developed a reputation for being a d**k, and I think it has affected recruiting. How many other major college coaches do you see screaming at their players on the bench? Not many. That approach just doesn’t work with these kids anymore. And who the hell knows what goes on in the locker room...behind closed doors. Not saying this whole mess is JB’s fault at all. Just pointing out that maybe he is long overdue for retirement. Letting Hop walk is going to haunt this program for some time, IMHO. Agree completely re coaching style. I never really got the whole yelling Schtick. Just tell guys what they did wrong and how to correct and move on. If I were a player, I would tune all that out. It’s insulting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Agreed, however, Boeheim’s coaching style (particularly the way he treats his players) is antiquated. Kids (and parents) are different these days. Boeheim has developed a reputation for being a d**k, and I think it has affected recruiting. How many other major college coaches do you see screaming at their players on the bench? Not many. That approach just doesn’t work with these kids anymore. And who the hell knows what goes on in the locker room...behind closed doors. Not saying this whole mess is JB’s fault at all. Just pointing out that maybe he is long overdue for retirement. Letting Hop walk is going to haunt this program for some time, IMHO. It can very well be antiquated... but that's what's wrong with the young kids these days... too soft... can't fight through adversity... Every recruit coming to Syracuse knows how Boeheim will coach them... and that's tough as nails Bob Knight was a ***** too every coach that ever loved me worked me like a dog and pushed me harder than I thought possible... and I love them for it... all the coaches who didn't care about me were nonchalant and could care less to correct and discipline me any chance McNamara can be the savior and next HC? Edited March 29, 2018 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, JR in Pittsburgh said: One of those things when you hate it at the time and look back on it with appreciation. You are absolutely correct... what do you think about McNamaras chances of becoming HC are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) Something I'll never really understand about college hoops. So many guys leave school early for the nba, and so many don't make it. I understand these kids wanna play professionally and make alot of money, but how do they not see how hard it is? How many former Syracuse players left school early for the NBA and got nowhere? I'm curious as to if these guys played all 4 years and then went to the NBA how much more success they'd have professionally Edited March 30, 2018 by Steptide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Steptide said: Something I'll never really understand about college hoops. So many guys leave school early for the nba, and so many don't make it. I understand these kids wanna play professionally and make alot of money, but how do they not see how hard it is? How many former Syracuse players left school early for the NBA and got nowhere? I'm curious as to if these guys played all 4 years and then went to the NBA how much more success they'd have professionally It would 100% help their cause... Tyler Ennis is a good point guard... he would probably be an NBA starter if he stayed 3-4 years but he left after 1 CJ Fair is terrific... he never got drafted but just got signed to the Bulls and I can see him being a good role player... he improved soooo much over 4 years at Syracuse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: You are absolutely correct... what do you think about McNamaras chances of becoming HC are? I don’t have a great sense of G-mac’s role on the team. Almost seems like Autry might be the guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Just now, JR in Pittsburgh said: I don’t have a great sense of G-mac’s role on the team. Almost seems like Autry might be the guy? Might be... Adrian Autry... i wonder how he does on the recruiting trail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Might be... Adrian Autry... i wonder how he does on the recruiting trail Autry? He is known for being an excellent recruiter. Take it for what it’s worth, fellas. What I’m hearing from my guy on the hill is that Bazley might not have made this decision by choice. May have been serious eligibility issues. I’ll just leave it at that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Autry? He is known for being an excellent recruiter. Take it for what it’s worth, fellas. What I’m hearing from my guy on the hill is that Bazley might not have made this decision by choice. May have been serious eligibility issues. I’ll just leave it at that. I know Autry has a good reputation as a recruiter but I don't believe he was the one who pulled Bazley and Battle , was he? I forget after a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 22 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I know Autry has a good reputation as a recruiter but I don't believe he was the one who pulled Bazley and Battle , was he? I forget after a while Hop was Battle’s primary recruiter. Allen Griffin was the one who lured Bazley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Hop was Battle’s primary recruiter. Allen Griffin was the one who lured Bazley. Ok I thought so... so who's in line as successor? Autry Mac? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Ok I thought so... so who's in line as successor? Autry Mac? No idea, bub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: No idea, bub. Today was definitely a tough pill to swallow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 41 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Today was definitely a tough pill to swallow It’s a kick in the pills for sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 The eligibility issue makes a lot of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 27 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: It’s a kick in the pills for sure... I punched myself in the pills soo many times to see if I was dreaming... i wasnt ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Perhaps we avoided another potential issue with violations. Cuse will land firmly on their feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 23 minutes ago, The Poojer said: Perhaps we avoided another potential issue with violations. Cuse will land firmly on their feet Perhaps. But we had a top 5-10 team i will feel comfortable when we land another high end 5* recruit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Just now, Buffalo716 said: Perhaps. But we had a top 5-10 team i will feel comfortable when we land another high end 5* recruit... There are few 5* guys we have a chance at for 2019. I also hear JB and crew are making a late push for 2018 C Majur Majak from New Jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: There are few 5* guys we have a chance at for 2019. I also hear JB and crew are making a late push for 2018 C Majur Majak from New Jersey. I heard he Might come... he's like Chukwu though... tall and skinny and not much offensive game...though he could be a very good defender 247 has him at 100% Syracuse... I'd take him because we need depth but he's barely a 3* player... maybe he's a late bloomer Edited March 30, 2018 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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