MarlinTheMagician Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I liked Sammy and wish him the best. But I like this trade for a host of reasons - I know there is a thread on that. What I would like to note in this thread is that with Matthews we get a player of exceptional character and intelligence. A team leader. Google it - I was going to paste in an article on this point, but there are SO many I did not. He is disciplined, he is an incredibly hard worker, he gives back to the community. He is a chiseled, bulldog of a receiver - I can't remember us ever having one quite like him from a physicality standpoint (Moulds maybe, but he was almost more like Sammy with his downfield ability that I don't think Matthews can match). He is a great teammate- check it, article after article says he was one of the most respected men in the Eagles locker room. He is compared to Jordy Nelson, which I would take in a heartbeat. His story is similar to that of Zay Jones, he worked extraordinarily hard to become what he is and I think he reflects what the new administration wants on the field - and in the locker room and off the field. We should welcome him with open arms. A Buffalo kind of guy. Lunch bucket.Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I liked Sammy and wish him the best. But I like this trade for a host of reasons - I know there is a thread on that. What I would like to note in this thread is that with Matthews we get a player of exceptional character and intelligence. A team leader. Google it - I was going to paste in an article on this point, but there are SO many I did not. He is disciplined, he is an incredibly hard worker, he gives back to the community. He is a chiseled, bulldog of a receiver - I can't remember us ever having one quite like him from a physicality standpoint (Moulds maybe, but he was almost more like Sammy with his downfield ability that I don't think Matthews can match). He is a great teammate- check it, article after article says he was one of the most respected men in the Eagles locker room. He is compared to Jordy Nelson, which I would take in a heartbeat. His story is similar to that of Zay Jones, he worked extraordinarily hard to become what he is and I think he reflects what the new administration wants on the field - and in the locker room and off the field. We should welcome him with open arms. A Buffalo kind of guy. Lunch bucket. Go Bills! Like it. Trumps lunch pail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 I will take high character players every time. I believe it is an essential of a winning formula. Because Dick Jauron failed you doubt that? Players that have low work ethic become out of shape and get hurt. Players with low character get suspended. Seems we have a D tackle that would have taught you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Wasn't Jauron/Levy preaching the same thing? How'd that work out? As long as we don't through money to Dockery and Langston Walker again, I'm good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Wasn't Jauron/Levy preaching the same thing? How'd that work out? Everything works out the same way when you dont have a franchise QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 And this year should show if TT can be that. If he can't, we have the dry powder to make a run at getting one In the meanwhile, I will take a team with guys like Boldin and Matthews and Zay and Shady. Even TT - incredible work ethic. If the players with good character that you have are not good enough to win you can upgrade the talent through the draft and free agency, but you build a TEAM. If you have a bunch of Percy Harvin/Dareus/Mario types, the team culture will defeat you regardless of what you put on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Can we put a RFA tender on him at the end of the year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Wasn't Jauron/Levy preaching the same thing? How'd that work out? The difference is that Levy had no clue how to run a front office and Jauron knew nothing about offense. The FO and coaching staff that we have now are veteran FO guys and veteran coordinators. World of difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 It is now obvious what the organization wants in a wide receiver. They all now fit the same basic mold---powerful guys who can go up, fight for, and grab a ball. If we can score a QB who can put the ball where it needs to go, and with receivers who can snatch the ball even when well covered, you have a recipe for success in today's NFL. Our Superbowl teams were overflowing with character guys. I agree it's hugely important in team sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 Sadly, I was only good enough to play this great game through high school. But even then -- you knew who the gamers were in the huddle. Sometimes they were the among the most skilled on the team and sometimes they were not. I want a team full of gamers. It is why we loved Fred. And they need not all be choirboys. LeSean is a gamer. I think Randy Moss was a gamer - his teammates loved him. And a team full of character is a team that is easy to love, which is what I want in my Bills (playoff birth would not suck either). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 He is here for one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 Doesn't matter. Matthews, Gaines, Boldin are the kind of character guys this admin is bringing in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 He is here for one year. Like Watkins in LA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) Like Watkins in LA? The Rams will be smart enough to retain him via extension or tag as the #1 WR for Goff. Edited August 12, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) Wasn't Jauron/Levy preaching the same thing? How'd that work out? Levy won 4 AFC championships. I'd say thats good? Edited August 12, 2017 by r00tabaga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiostyle Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Gimme an entire team full of talented thugs. The league can't suspend them all. Meanwhile we'll mop the floor with your character team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 It is now obvious what the organization wants in a wide receiver. They all now fit the same basic mold---powerful guys who can go up, fight for, and grab a ball. If we can score a QB who can put the ball where it needs to go, and with receivers who can snatch the ball even when well covered, you have a recipe for success in today's NFL. Our Superbowl teams were overflowing with character guys. I agree it's hugely important in team sports. Eventually our Super Bowl teams were seen as having character guys, but it took many years for that perception to take hold, for good reason. Bruce was overweight his rookie year, and didn't start. He was suspended the first 4 games of the 1988 season. He signed an offer letter with Denver when free agency was in its infancy. Jim Kelly signed with the USFL out of college and made it known he didn't want to play for Buffalo. In his early years with Buffalo, he got into all kinds of confrontations in nightclubs. He called out Howard Ballard after being injured, and split the locker room. There was no internet, but there was a vocal undercurrent of fans who wanted to trade him after Reich had success in filling in for the injured starter. Thurman Thomas helped split the Bills in 1989, when he called out Kelly. The point isn't that those Bills weren't character guys, but that they were young and talented, and needed time to mature. Because of their talent, the Bills wisely did not give up on them, and had a coach that could help them develop character. If Watkins was traded because the current management team didn't see him as a character guy, well then that's disappointing, and it's not the way Polian and Levy would have handled the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 The Rams will be smart enough to retain him via extension or tag as the #1 WR for Goff. If only we had tried to acquire an elite weapon to help develop our less than impressive first round QB. Yep, don't see any Whaley similarities here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 If only we had tried to acquire an elite weapon to help develop our less than impressive first round QB. Yep, don't see any Whaley similarities here... Goff = EJ? Is that your contention? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Gimme an entire team full of talented thugs. The league can't suspend them all. Meanwhile we'll mop the floor with your character team. You may want to look within your home state for an example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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