OldTimer1960 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I think they are CLEARLY building draft picks for next year in order to take a good QB prospect. It is risky business because there a lot of draft "misses" even among very highly drafted QBs. Still, they now own 2 1sts, 2 2nds and 2 3rds. The Bills' own picks look to be almost sure to be top 10, maybe top 5. These trades weakend both the offense and defense, in my opinion. Mathews is an OK starting WR, but he doesn't provide the threat that Watkins (when healthy) does. The trade of Darby means that Seymour will likely be starting at CB and there is now practically NO depth at CB, S and LB on defense. I will not be surprised if another trade is made for more picks. Also, watch for some of the FAs signed this year to be cut in order to try to get an additional comp pick - maybe at the end of round 3. No way to spin it other than they are looking to the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraq Vet Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Look it take a year or so for a new WR to grow. Z Jones looks like the real deal. Boldin is a good fit for a year... Darby was not good last year. We have a new 1st CB that will get burned for a year as he grows... Pick golore... KC is not good and we have their 1st pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 As mike golic always says: "The best ability is availability." Do you think 76ers would trade Joel Embiid for an "available" center like Ian Mahinmi or Nikola Vucevic? Embiid has played 31 games in three years. By your logic they should. That kind of thinking is why Bills are perennial losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Do you think 76ers would trade Joel Embiid for an "available" center like Ian Mahinmi or Nikola Vucevic? Embiid has played 31 games in three years. By your logic they should. That kind of thinking is why Bills are perennial losers. Embiid is a bust. Period. So not bolstering your argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr8billsfan Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Yes its a tank year. They're going for the top prospect or two in the 2018 draft at QB. Guaranteed. 6 picks in the first 3 rounds? Yeah.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Embiid is a bust. Period. So not bolstering your argument. What planet are you on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 What planet are you on? You said it yourself, the guy's played 36 games in THREE YEARS. that's 36/240+ games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) I think they are CLEARLY building draft picks for next year in order to take a good QB prospect. It is risky business because there a lot of draft "misses" even among very highly drafted QBs. Still, they now own 2 1sts, 2 2nds and 2 3rds. The Bills' own picks look to be almost sure to be top 10, maybe top 5. These trades weakend both the offense and defense, in my opinion. Mathews is an OK starting WR, but he doesn't provide the threat that Watkins (when healthy) does. The trade of Darby means that Seymour will likely be starting at CB and there is now practically NO depth at CB, S and LB on defense. I will not be surprised if another trade is made for more picks. Also, watch for some of the FAs signed this year to be cut in order to try to get an additional comp pick - maybe at the end of round 3. No way to spin it other than they are looking to the future. Gaines was the start right CB for LA Rams so he replaces Darby one for one. CB depth is not the best but not the worst. Edited August 11, 2017 by Nitro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 You said it yourself, the guy's played 36 games in THREE YEARS. that's 36/240+ games He's one of the best young centers to come around in a LONG TIME. That kind of talent is WORTH WAITING FOR. He can hellp you bring CHAMPIONSHIPS. You need serious talent to win championships. Matthews isn't one of those. Watkins is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 He's one of the best young centers to come around in a LONG TIME. That kind of talent is WORTH WAITING FOR. He can hellp you bring CHAMPIONSHIPS. You need serious talent to win championships. Matthews isn't one of those. Watkins is. Assuming he ever plays. See: Odin, Greg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 It's a soft tank. It is possible that Gains is a better fit for the system than Darby. And while Watkins is a much more talented player than Matthews how much can Sammy produce if he is hurt? Matthews is much more durable and a pretty damn solid player when on the field. The Bills also pocket legit draft picks that could help them escalate a rebuild or make a major move if a high-end QB prospect is available. I like it but they could also be outsmarting themselves by giving up two talented young players for picks and lesser players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) You don't preach a playoff mentality by quitting!!!!!!!!!!! Strap on and get ready for the ride. Edited August 11, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Matthews is not a good receiver. Has stone hands. Hes a free agent after this year also. So is Gaines, so we may not even keep them next year. Philly is laughing at us right now for taking Matthews. They've been trying to get someone to take him since april. They get a #1 corner and only need to give up a 3rd rd pick and a guy who was prob going to be cut My coworker is a die hard Eagles fan, when he found out he came over to my office grinning ear to ear, told me thank you for taking butterfingers off of us, he drops passes that fall right into his hands. That was his words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 My coworker is a die hard Eagles fan, when he found out he came over to my office grinning ear to ear, told me thank you for taking butterfingers off of us, he drops passes that fall right into his hands. That was his words You're counting on an EAGLES fan for clarity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 You don't preach a playoff mentality by quitting!!!!!!!!!!! Stay on and get ready for the ride. Uh-oh........I agree with ShadyBills................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Uh-oh........I agree with ShadyBills................. This just in Beane "we are not throwing in the towel". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 He is not the typical eagle fan, we live in va, he is usually pretty accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 He is not the typical eagle fan, we live in va, he is usually pretty accurate 1) Eagles fans are eagles fans. 2) They're idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianFan Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 My coworker is a die hard Eagles fan, when he found out he came over to my office grinning ear to ear, told me thank you for taking butterfingers off of us, he drops passes that fall right into his hands. That was his words wow. this gets worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Gaines was the start right CB for LA Rams so he replaces Darby one for one. CB depth is not the best but not the worst. Gaines is 5'9" and isn't a starting caliber CB - he started on an awful Rams team as a rookie, missed all of 2015 and was a backup last year playing in only 11 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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