boyst Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Luke Kuechly doesn't ever struggle! No matter what. In fact he's the only player who can cover Gronk. Kuechly is the exception. please explain keuchly? i believe you are greatly overestimating how good he is. he had a rather lousy 2016. 2015 was not hsi best year either. he can cover gronk only with safety help - roman harper and the panthers safeties helped him do so. the panthers defense was keyed on gronk. futher, keuchly struggled getting out of the box last year due to the ****ty play on the edges. he still was phenomenal for the most part but not at all done any favors by the dl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 brown may be better moved to strong side linebacker in this 43. i'll be quick as i have work to do while the sun is out (beehives) hodges or humber is set at will linebacker lorax is likely the strongside linebacker ragland gets the nod over brown in my system i'd use them in rotation of shifting hodges would be a 3rd down package back over humber - at least until i see more. on 1st and 2nd and run downs lorax gets the first dibs. but i'd be quick to move ragland there on a run heavy team and bench lorax i'd put brown in the middle with ragland if the defensive line is not 2016 rex ryan - rex ryan actually meaning the word feces. as in, when i sit on the toilet i dispense rex ryans in the bowl. i have so many more questions about the defensive line than i do anything and what i actually see as a lack of depth so much so that i'd consider giving lorax reps at defensive end. as well as hodges. washington makes me shrug that we could have developmental issues in a sophomore slump situation. kyle williams is always a concern but always proves us wrong despite me never being his yugest fan. dareus keeps getting pegged as a man out of the system - which is terrifically mind bottling. good players always play good - dareus is one of the best in the league. jerry hughes is the player i think that will have the worst 2017 by fans accounts. shaq lawson is pro bowl bound. I am confounded by this statement. and its a reach to crown Shaq this early, but i like your attitude because he just might Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Preston was a stud in Schwartz' system and may have had an overall better rookie season than Kiko. He is just another player whose Rex's system murdered. He wasn't a stud in that system. He was barely above average. Keuchly is a stud. Brown is at best average and usually below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 He wasn't a stud in that system. He was barely above average. Keuchly is a stud. Brown is at best average and usually below. He was getting mentions for rookie of the year and had over 100 tackles He wasnt a blue chipper like Keuchly....but hey Keuchly might not even be Keuchly anymore with the mounting concussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 please explain keuchly? i believe you are greatly overestimating how good he is. he had a rather lousy 2016. 2015 was not hsi best year either. he can cover gronk only with safety help - roman harper and the panthers safeties helped him do so. the panthers defense was keyed on gronk. futher, keuchly struggled getting out of the box last year due to the ****ty play on the edges. he still was phenomenal for the most part but not at all done any favors by the dl. ...so we can anticipate him as a Panthers cut and being faced with a true conundrum as to whether we pick 'em up, right?.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 He was getting mentions for rookie of the year and had over 100 tackles He wasnt a blue chipper like Keuchly....but hey Keuchly might not even be Keuchly anymore with the mounting concussions What does Kuechly having his career derailed by injuries have to do with Preston Brown? Honestly, John. Trying to tear down other stars to prop up Bills is a real pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Good to see you back! My intolerance of refugees is a disgrace to my Swedish heritage. The postmortem bb.com deluge was just too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 He was getting mentions for rookie of the year and had over 100 tackles He wasnt a blue chipper like Keuchly....but hey Keuchly might not even be Keuchly anymore with the mounting concussions Rookie of the year? Come on now. No he wasn't a blue chipper. He wasn't a stud either. Maybe slightly above average that year, but he was nothing special and no where near rookie of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 ...so we can anticipate him as a Panthers cut and being faced with a true conundrum as to whether we pick 'em up, right?.............. i'm surprised he's not been cut already, honestly. I am confounded by this statement. and its a reach to crown Shaq this early, but i like your attitude because he just might remember how pozluzeknee was not that good? and no one cared much about chris kelsey wasn't great? and chris hogan and so many others? hughes will be a scapegoat for 2017 like gilmore was a scapegoat in 2016 My intolerance of refugees is a disgrace to my Swedish heritage. The postmortem bb.com deluge was just too much. idiots that are mainstays liek myself probably didn't help, either still, glad you're back. most of us have calmed our nuts down and the bbmbers are fitting in well finally. think the bad eggs finally cracked out. What does Kuechly having his career derailed by injuries have to do with Preston Brown? Honestly, John. Trying to tear down other stars to prop up Bills is a real pattern. the haradest part watching keuchly this year is going to be watching him behind a dismal dl. gonna be a rough year for the carolina box i love watching him and thomas davis, along with shaq thompson. they are amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Even though Brown and Ragland are similar players, I hope Sean finds good use for both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) That article seemed a little shocked that Preston and several others on the Bills were on the top of the leader board for stops given the struggles on D but that just makes for more opportunities, which is a little ironic when he begins the article talking about the need for better stats. The funny thing was he wasn't even really talking about stats as a statistical measure but was talking about data, the number of stops not any % or probability. Edited June 18, 2017 by Steve Billieve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 please explain keuchly? i believe you are greatly overestimating how good he is. he had a rather lousy 2016. 2015 was not hsi best year either. he can cover gronk only with safety help - roman harper and the panthers safeties helped him do so. the panthers defense was keyed on gronk. futher, keuchly struggled getting out of the box last year due to the ****ty play on the edges. he still was phenomenal for the most part but not at all done any favors by the dl. Sooner or later the roids will catch up with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Sooner or later the roids will catch up with you. dudes cro mag head is telling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Rookie of the year? Come on now. No he wasn't a blue chipper. He wasn't a stud either. Maybe slightly above average that year, but he was nothing special and no where near rookie of the year. He led the #4 ranked defense in the NFL in tackles (an overrated stat but still) as a rookie MLB. Why is it so hard to say he had a good season in 2014? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 (edited) Rookie of the year? Come on now. No he wasn't a blue chipper. He wasn't a stud either. Maybe slightly above average that year, but he was nothing special and no where near rookie of the year. Scott I am just saying that there were mentions of it that year. He was playing well enough his rookie year that people felt good about the position leading into the next year. Then.....Rex Ryan happened. Edited June 19, 2017 by John from Hemet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Rookie of the year? Come on now. No he wasn't a blue chipper. He wasn't a stud either. Maybe slightly above average that year, but he was nothing special and no where near rookie of the year. I believe the quote was more along these lines: He's having a very similar season to Kiko Alanzo's rookie year in which he was obviously in the conversation for rookie of the year. He was the defensive player of the week for that sick Miami game too. I'm sure we can all agree he's a better fit for what Schwartz asked him to do that what Rex asked him to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 He led the #4 ranked defense in the NFL in tackles (an overrated stat but still) as a rookie MLB. Why is it so hard to say he had a good season in 2014? He did have a good season. That doesn't mean he was a stud. I guess I am just picking on your word choice really. I believe the quote was more along these lines: He's having a very similar season to Kiko Alanzo's rookie year in which he was obviously in the conversation for rookie of the year. He was the defensive player of the week for that sick Miami game too. I'm sure we can all agree he's a better fit for what Schwartz asked him to do that what Rex asked him to do. I can probably agree with that. Let's see how he does this year. Scott I am just saying that there were mentions of it that year. He was playing well enough his rookie year that people felt good about the position leading into the next year. Then.....Rex Ryan happened. My problem is that I'm not so sure it's just rex Ryan. Let's revisit after the season and I'll keep an open mind until then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 He's definitely a player that needs some change to favor him. Another season of Rex or the average buffalo bills cluster !@#$ show could ruin him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 He gets a lot of tackles.. so good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 I believe the quote was more along these lines: He's having a very similar season to Kiko Alanzo's rookie year in which he was obviously in the conversation for rookie of the year. He was the defensive player of the week for that sick Miami game too. I'm sure we can all agree he's a better fit for what Schwartz asked him to do that what Rex asked him to do. Brown had a better overall rookie year than Kiko. He just didn't have the big plays, which Kiko did in his first 5 games. Brown isn't a great LB. but he can be productive in the right system and every defensive player gets a pass from the last 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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