Pats* issue seldom-used May 9 tender to LeGarrette Blount

[Doc]

What happens if he doesn't sign the tender? Does he have to sit out the whole season?

[QCity]

What happens if he doesn't sign the tender? Does he have to sit out the whole season?

 

The clock stops and nothing happens. If he sits out until week 10 he becomes available. He has until July 22nd though, and he still could sign with another team.

 

Edited: Apparently he can sit out until week 10 and sign with another team.

Edited May 11, 2017 by QCity

[IgotBILLStopay]

How is he getting screwed? The pats don't want to lose him for nothing, but if he was good enough a team would sign him. The same way the Pats signed Gills because they thought he was worth a 5th

Bills fins jets less likely to sign Blount if pats get a comp pick no? Also the article does say the tender might cool the market for him. Finally with the tender doesn't the comp pick for the signing team get affected since they signed another teams draft pick? Last one is a maybe no.

Edited May 11, 2017 by IgotBILLStopay

[Thurman#1]

How is he getting screwed? The pats don't want to lose him for nothing, but if he was good enough a team would sign him. The same way the Pats signed Gills because they thought he was worth a 5th

 

 

He's getting screwed because the date when comp picks are lost when you sign a guy has passed. And that means teams are more likely now to pick up a guy.

 

But when the Pats did this, it means that if a team signs him they lose a comp pick even though the date passed. Which will absolutely hurt the market for him.

 

It also screws him by putting a specific end deadline on when teams can pick him up, July 22nd.

 

So he's screwed either way. Before July 22nd, if another team signs him they lose a comp pick, something that's not true for any other player in the league. After July 22nd, even if another team gets a running back injured, they can't sign him, he's restricted to the Pats, so if another team would pay more money than the $1.1 mill the Pats want to pay him, tough luck, they can't.

 

It's not the same as Gillislee because he was signed during the period when every player in the league could only be signed by teams willing to lose a comp pick if they fit those guidelines. Now that deadline has passed and Blount is the only player in the league who will cost a team a comp pick.

 

He's screwed.

 

Vicious rule, but the NFLPA agreed to it when they signed the collective bargaining agreement. Still, tough break for Blount, who has worked his heart out for the Pats.

Edited May 11, 2017 by Thurman#1

[NoSaint]

 

 

He's getting screwed because the date when comp picks are lost when you sign a guy has passed. And that means teams are more likely now to pick up a guy.

 

But when the Pats did this, it means that if a team signs him they lose a comp pick even though the date passed. Which will absolutely hurt the market for him.

 

It also screws him by putting a specific end deadline on when teams can pick him up, July 22nd.

 

So he's screwed either way. Before July 22nd, if another team signs him they lose a comp pick, something that's not true for any other player in the league. After July 22nd, even if another team gets a running back injured, they can't sign him, he's restricted to the Pats, so if another team would pay more money than the $1.1 mill the Pats want to pay him, tough luck, they can't.

 

He's screwed.

 

Vicious rule, but the NFLPA agreed to it when they signed the collective bargaining agreement. Still, tough break for Blount, who has worked his heart out for the Pats.

To be fair, for many teams there's no consequence to signing him now, and teams that are even are only losing an end of the 7th pick. It might not effect the market for him at all as it's possible no team with comp picks penciled in needs him.

[QCity]

Finally with the tender doesn't the comp pick for the signing team get affected since they signed another teams draft pick? Last one is a maybe no.

 

Yeah, "the transaction now counts toward the compensatory draft pick formula for 2018," so he's getting shafted here.

 

That's cold-blooded, even by Pats standards. There's a good chance a team was waiting until today to sign him like the Vikings just did with Michael Floyd. Now they have to take a step back and discuss it.

To be fair, for many teams there's no consequence to signing him now, and teams that are even are only losing an end of the 7th pick.

 

Yeah, but those teams (that know they aren't getting comp picks) would have already signed him weeks ago if they wanted him.

[BillsFan17]

 

 

He's getting screwed because the date when comp picks are lost when you sign a guy has passed. And that means teams are more likely now to pick up a guy.

 

But when the Pats did this, it means that if a team signs him they lose a comp pick even though the date passed. Which will absolutely hurt the market for him.

 

It also screws him by putting a specific end deadline on when teams can pick him up, July 22nd.

 

So he's screwed either way. Before July 22nd, if another team signs him they lose a comp pick, something that's not true for any other player in the league. After July 22nd, even if another team gets a running back injured, they can't sign him, he's restricted to the Pats, so if another team would pay more money than the $1.1 mill the Pats want to pay him, tough luck, they can't.

 

It's not the same as Gillislee because he was signed during the period when every player in the league could only be signed by teams willing to lose a comp pick if they fit those guidelines. Now that deadline has passed and Blount is the only player in the league who will cost a team a comp pick.

 

He's screwed.

 

Vicious rule, but the NFLPA agreed to it when they signed the collective bargaining agreement. Still, tough break for Blount, who has worked his heart out for the Pats.

Again, if the guy was thought of well enough, a late round pick would not prevent them from signing him.

 

Did giving up a fifth stop the Pats from signing Gills to an offer sheet, under that tenders rules?

 

Only bills fans seem to care so dearly about comp picks. The pats are hedging their bets the maybe they get something for him if he do in fact sign elsewhere. However, just because he signs doesn't mean the Pats will automatically receive a comp pick. The value of the contract comes into play.

 

If Blount had any intrest, I doubt this is what does him in. If so, then he wasn't highly regarded to begin with.

[QCity]

Again, if the guy was thought of well enough, a late round pick would not prevent them from signing him.

Not necessarily, a team could potentially lose a high round pick. You have to understand that these picks don't transfer directly. For example, if Denver signed him, they would lose a 3rd and the Patriots would likely receive a 7th.

 

However, just because he signs doesn't mean the Pats will automatically receive a comp pick. The value of the contract comes into play.

No. The Pats already have comp picks coming (2 estimated) so they will guarantee themselves another pick if Blount signs elsewhere. The value of the contract only determines what round pick they will receive, which would probably be a 7th.

[JM2009]

Not pro- or anti- Whaley, but sinceriously wonder if he knows about this rule.

Probably not.

[3rdand12]

Belichick is really above everyone else.....BTW, it doesn't really screw Blount...the comp pick does not come from the team who would pick LB...Would the Giants or Lions hesitate to pick him up because NE will get a 5th next year ?.....I don't think so....

 

That chess vs checkers is getting old, but it is accurate....

 

That would actually help them....

see, thats the genius. use Blount as a tool. he is getting screwed. follow ?

I think it's a smart move. I'm not sure they want him back but if no one's interested they sign a good RB for pennies. If someone is interested, he helps them get a pick.

I love to hate the Pats but I can't fault them here.

Of course its smart. damn near genius for details. and thats why WE ARE PISSED

Why doesn't anyone else take advantage of this? I've never heard of this tag before.

Do the Pats* just make this schnizz up as they go along?

Kraft Goodell Trump.

yes they do

[Thurman#1]

Again, if the guy was thought of well enough, a late round pick would not prevent them from signing him.

 

Did giving up a fifth stop the Pats from signing Gills to an offer sheet, under that tenders rules?

 

Only bills fans seem to care so dearly about comp picks. The pats are hedging their bets the maybe they get something for him if he do in fact sign elsewhere. However, just because he signs doesn't mean the Pats will automatically receive a comp pick. The value of the contract comes into play.

 

If Blount had any intrest, I doubt this is what does him in. If so, then he wasn't highly regarded to begin with.

 

 

Well, yeah, if he were the young Jim Brown he'd have been signed. But that's beside the point.

 

What he is is LeGarrette Blount, a very good but aging RB who is now less likely to get signed than he would have been if the Pats hadn't done this.

 

And that's utter nonsense that only Bills fans care about comp picks. The teams that consistently lead the league in comp picks is also a list of the best and smartest franchises in football, the Pats, the Packers, the Ravens, the Steelers, etc. And it's not a matter of good teams getting them naturally, as the Steelers were also getting them when they sucked for three years in a row and the Niners are still getting them now.

 

The teams that care about picks and are smart enough to use the rules to their advantage get them. The stupider teams don't. And what they do is simple, they raise your chances of getting a larger number of valuable players out of the draft. That's important. Which is why the smart franchises do this.

[stuvian]

I feel bad for the guy. All he does is pile up the yards and TDs and he gets nickel and dimed like a roadside whore

[NoSaint]

I feel bad for the guy. All he does is pile up the yards and TDs and he gets nickel and dimed like a roadside whore

Well, after some of his history he's a tough one to commit to... GMs remember stuff like him forcing his way out of Pittsburgh

[stuvian]

Well, after some of his history he's a tough one to commit to... GMs remember stuff like him forcing his way out of Pittsburgh

Pot's legal in many of the states the NFL plays in. Sooner or later when the NFLPA wakes up they'll mount a constitutional challenge

[Kirby Jackson]

This was a really shrewd move by the Pats. I've given them a hard time on the draft but they are great on the pro side.

[NoSaint]

Pot's legal in many of the states the NFL plays in. Sooner or later when the NFLPA wakes up they'll mount a constitutional challenge

That doesn't address him walking out on the team during a game (or some of the other issues through the years).

[Blokestradamus]

I'll be honest, I didn't know the rule until I saw Sal tweeting about it a little while back. I believe he suggested it for Zach Brown when it seemed that his market wasn't looking too promising.

[mikemac2001]

Pot's legal in many of the states the NFL plays in. Sooner or later when the NFLPA wakes up they'll mount a constitutional challenge

Um didn't he leave the field and abandon his team and sign like a week later with the pats

[ALF]

I give credit to Ernie Adams who knows every trick in the book.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

I feel bad for the guy. All he does is pile up the yards and TDs and he gets nickel and dimed like a roadside whore

that is what is called - The Patriot Way.